From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Apr 19 18:32:41 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Don Horton) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 13:32:41 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Keel Fairing, Keel Templates Message-ID: <000801c42634$515f9530$2101a8c0@DHHWORK> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C42612.CA1977B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Frers 33 Members, For some unexplainable reason, several small sections of the starboard = side of the keel lost some of its fairing and therefore needs to be = stripped and refaired.=20 Perhaps a year ago, there was discussions regarding keel templates and a = that a set of templates existed or had been made. =20 Question: Is their a set of template drawings for the keel that can be converted = into a set of templates and is it possible to get a copy. Also, I plan to use WEST System Epoxy with a low density filler. Does = anyone feel there is another or better alternative they would recommend. The Frers design specifications sheet indicated that the keels were = faired with vinylester resin and biaxial glass. I assume the biaxial = glass they are referring to was just for the trailing edge, since my = keel is certainly not fully encapsulated in glass. Is that a correct = assumption or were some keels fully glassed when the were faired? Thanks Don Horton AWOL 203-221-1392 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C42612.CA1977B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dear Frers 33 Members,
 
For some unexplainable = reason, several small=20 sections of the starboard side of the keel lost some of its fairing and=20 therefore needs to be stripped and refaired. 
 
Perhaps a year ago, there was = discussions regarding=20 keel templates and a that a set of templates existed or had = been=20 made.  
 
Question:
Is their a set of = template drawings for=20 the keel that can be converted into a set of templates and is it = possible=20 to get a copy.
 
Also, I plan to use WEST System Epoxy = with a low=20 density filler. Does anyone feel there is another or=20 better alternative they would recommend.
 
The Frers design specifications sheet = indicated=20 that the keels were faired with vinylester resin and biaxial = glass.  I=20 assume the biaxial glass they are referring to was just for = the=20 trailing edge, since my keel is certainly not fully encapsulated in = glass.=20 Is that a correct assumption or were some keels fully glassed when the = were=20 faired?
 
Thanks
 
Don Horton
AWOL
203-221-1392
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C42612.CA1977B0-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Apr 20 12:46:39 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Jim.mormile) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 07:46:39 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Keel Fairing, Keel Templates References: <000801c42634$515f9530$2101a8c0@DHHWORK> Message-ID: <008301c426cd$254d9890$0100a8c0@experimental> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C426AB.9DAF7000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don, where is your boat ? By your area code I would assume somewhere in = Connecticut Jim Mormile ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Don Horton=20 To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 1:32 PM Subject: [frers-list]Keel Fairing, Keel Templates Dear Frers 33 Members, For some unexplainable reason, several small sections of the starboard = side of the keel lost some of its fairing and therefore needs to be = stripped and refaired.=20 Perhaps a year ago, there was discussions regarding keel templates and = a that a set of templates existed or had been made. =20 Question: Is their a set of template drawings for the keel that can be converted = into a set of templates and is it possible to get a copy. Also, I plan to use WEST System Epoxy with a low density filler. Does = anyone feel there is another or better alternative they would recommend. The Frers design specifications sheet indicated that the keels were = faired with vinylester resin and biaxial glass. I assume the biaxial = glass they are referring to was just for the trailing edge, since my = keel is certainly not fully encapsulated in glass. Is that a correct = assumption or were some keels fully glassed when the were faired? Thanks Don Horton AWOL 203-221-1392 ------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C426AB.9DAF7000 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Don, where is your boat ? By your area = code I would=20 assume somewhere in Connecticut   Jim Mormile
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Don Horton
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com= =20
Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 = 1:32=20 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Keel = Fairing, Keel=20 Templates

Dear Frers 33 Members,
 
For some unexplainable = reason, several small=20 sections of the starboard side of the keel lost some of its fairing = and=20 therefore needs to be stripped and refaired. 
 
Perhaps a year ago, there was = discussions=20 regarding keel templates and a that a set of = templates existed or=20 had been made.  
 
Question:
Is their a set of = template drawings for=20 the keel that can be converted into a set of templates and is it = possible=20 to get a copy.
 
Also, I plan to use WEST System Epoxy = with a low=20 density filler. Does anyone feel there is another or=20 better alternative they would recommend.
 
The Frers design specifications sheet = indicated=20 that the keels were faired with vinylester resin and biaxial = glass.  I=20 assume the biaxial glass they are referring to was just for = the=20 trailing edge, since my keel is certainly not fully encapsulated = in=20 glass. Is that a correct assumption or were some keels fully glassed = when the=20 were faired?
 
Thanks
 
Don Horton
AWOL
203-221-1392
------=_NextPart_000_0080_01C426AB.9DAF7000-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Apr 20 15:09:56 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Allan Heyward) Date: Tue, 20 Apr 2004 10:09:56 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Keel Fairing, Keel Templates In-Reply-To: <000801c42634$515f9530$2101a8c0@DHHWORK> Message-ID: <009601c426e1$2c47da20$6f00a8c0@ALLAN> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C426BF.A5363A20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Don I had the misfortune to have to remove my keel a couple of years ago. The keel has a fiberglass "clamshell" fully encasing a lead alloy fin shaped plug. The void between the clamshell and the plug is filled, for the most part, with a putty. The foil shape is entirely in the shape of the clamshell. Allan M. Heyward, Jr. COOK, HEYWARD, LEE, HOPPER & FEEHAN, P.C. 804-747-4500 -----Original Message----- From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Don Horton Sent: Monday, April 19, 2004 12:33 PM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Keel Fairing, Keel Templates Dear Frers 33 Members, For some unexplainable reason, several small sections of the starboard side of the keel lost some of its fairing and therefore needs to be stripped and refaired. Perhaps a year ago, there was discussions regarding keel templates and a that a set of templates existed or had been made. Question: Is their a set of template drawings for the keel that can be converted into a set of templates and is it possible to get a copy. Also, I plan to use WEST System Epoxy with a low density filler. Does anyone feel there is another or better alternative they would recommend. The Frers design specifications sheet indicated that the keels were faired with vinylester resin and biaxial glass. I assume the biaxial glass they are referring to was just for the trailing edge, since my keel is certainly not fully encapsulated in glass. Is that a correct assumption or were some keels fully glassed when the were faired? Thanks Don Horton AWOL 203-221-1392 ------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C426BF.A5363A20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Don

 

I had the misfortune to have to remove my keel a couple of years ago.  The keel has a fiberglass “clamshell” fully = encasing a lead alloy fin shaped plug.  The void between the clamshell and the plug = is filled, for the most part, with a putty.  The foil shape is = entirely in the shape of the clamshell.

 

Allan M. Heyward, = Jr.

COOK, HEYWARD, LEE, HOPPER & = FEEHAN, P.C.

804-747-4500

 

-----Original = Message-----
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Don Horton
Sent: Monday, April 19, = 2004 12:33 PM
To: = frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Keel = Fairing, Keel Templates

 

Dear Frers 33 = Members,

 

For some unexplainable reason, several small sections of the starboard side of the keel = lost some of its fairing and therefore needs to be stripped and = refaired. 

 

Perhaps a year ago, there = was discussions regarding keel templates and a that a set of templates existed = or had been made.  

 

Question:

Is their a set of template drawings for the keel that can be converted into a = set of templates and is it possible to get a copy.

 

Also, I plan to use WEST = System Epoxy with a low density filler. Does anyone feel there is another = or better alternative they would recommend.

 

The Frers design = specifications sheet indicated that the keels were faired with vinylester resin and = biaxial glass.  I assume the biaxial glass they are referring to = was just for the trailing edge, since my keel is certainly not fully encapsulated in glass. Is that a correct assumption or were = some keels fully glassed when the were faired?

 

Thanks

 

Don = Horton

AWOL
203-221-1392

------=_NextPart_000_0097_01C426BF.A5363A20-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Apr 22 02:30:58 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 21:30:58 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Frers-33 Website - Facelift Message-ID: <0ec001c42809$76d3df70$654da8c0@art8100> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_X7Mc0F/gB8KVQElBzz/QZg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All, I have just given the website a facelift with a new frames-based menu to make it easier to maintain and expand. Let me know if you have any suggestions. There is an FAQ section in the plans to supplement the list archives. If you have anything to contribute, please send it on to me. As many of you know already, I am dedicating a web page to each boat, so send me your hull number, photos, etc. and I will post them. HTML is gratefully accepted as well! I have also added a number of photos to the gallery courtesy of Karl Hudson. Enjoy! Art "Brilliant" --Boundary_(ID_X7Mc0F/gB8KVQElBzz/QZg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
All,
 
I have just given the website a facelift with a new frames-based menu to make it easier to maintain and expand.  Let me know if you have any suggestions.  There is an FAQ section in the plans to supplement the list archives.  If you have anything to contribute, please send it on to me.
 
As many of you know already, I am dedicating a web page to each boat, so send me your hull number, photos, etc. and I will post them.  HTML is gratefully accepted as well!
 
I have also added a number of photos to the gallery courtesy of Karl Hudson.
 
Enjoy!
 
Art
"Brilliant"
--Boundary_(ID_X7Mc0F/gB8KVQElBzz/QZg)--