--Boundary_(ID_tzCHLNNZ6yptr/oPB87bTQ)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Jul 15 12:43:54 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Kurt Hudson) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:43:54 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]new guy and off topic: Frers 30 In-Reply-To: <20040712214927.94688.qmail@web50902.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001301c46a61$01e7d8c0$6401a8c0@Taco> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01C46A3F.7AD638C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only Frers 30 owner that I know is Wayne Smith at = wsmith8620@aol.com. If you have specific questions on the 33, let us know. Good luck. =20 Kurt =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Markus Stein Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:49 PM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]new guy and off topic: Frers 30 =20 Hello All, =20 I just enrolled in the Frers 33 discussion list. I'm considering a = Frers 33. But, I may be more interested in a Carroll Marine Frers 30 -- the = cost and size may be a better fit to my needs. =20 I'm hoping some of you might know a source of information about the = Frers 30 -- or have sailed one. Any information and all comments are = appreciated. =20 Thanks, Markus _____ =20 Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo!----- Original Message -----From: Markus SteinSent: Monday, July 12, 2004 5:49 PMSubject: [frers-list]new guy and off topic: Frers 30Hello All,I just enrolled in the Frers 33 discussion list. I'm considering a Frers 33. But, I may be more interested in a Carroll Marine Frers 30 -- the cost and size may be a better fit to my needs.I'm hoping some of you might know a source of information about the Frers 30 -- or have sailed one. Any information and all comments are appreciated.Thanks,Markus
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If you have specific questions on = the 33, let us know. Good luck.
Kurt
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off topic: Frers 30
Hello All,
I just enrolled in the Frers 33 discussion = list. I'm considering a Frers 33. But, I may be more interested in = a Carroll Marine Frers 30 -- the cost and size may be = a better fit to my needs.
I'm hoping some of you might know a = source of information about the Frers 30 -- or have sailed one. Any information and all comments are = appreciated.
Thanks,
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the spinnaker out from behind the mainsail, into clean air, and =
you’ll go about
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Does anyone have info on fastest angle of =
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------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C46FD9.FC601C40-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sat Jul 24 15:52:11 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:52:11 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon! Message-ID: <132401c4718d$ce13ad60$674da8c0@art8100> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_EyYa+fSmPOUlyU97w+rKXw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Just a reminder that the Larchmont NOODs are coming up September 10-12. I am volunteering to coordinate our class for this event since Kurt handled the Nationals, and this event is not in his immediate region. Can we get a count of who is planning on going this year? Brilliant is in, and I understand Bon Coeurs is as well. We have quite a number of boats on the Sound, and the Larchmont event is a great opportunity to show the sailing community that this class is alive and well, as well as having a great time racing. Let's see if we can surprise everyone with a large turn-out. I understand that in the past, the Frers-33s only sailed Sat & Sun. Last year I hear that the best sailing was on Friday. Of those planning to attend, what's the chance of adding Friday as well. I don't want to do this if it will cost us entries, but it increases the chances of good sailing time so may be worth the effort. Optionally, we can try to arrange with the organizers that a partial class sails Friday, but those races don't get counted in the final results - we can use it as practice. If you are thinking, "I'd like to go, but I don't have enough crew", let me know and we'll start helping you beat the bushes. There are folks from MD to MA who would be interested in crewing, so let's leverage that. Personally, for the Newport I was lucky enough to get crew from two other Frers-33s and it was a tremendous benefit to learn how things are set up and done on the other boats. Please send me your responses as early as possible so we can make this a banner event. Thanks, Art Kelley "Brilliant" 631-261-4920 art@frers33.com --Boundary_(ID_EyYa+fSmPOUlyU97w+rKXw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT-----Original Message-----
From:=20 frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com=20 [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]On Behalf Of Louise = K.=20 Brokaw
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C47311.DF2FE491-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 27 04:49:49 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:49:49 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon! References: <81F90FD4B519A449B045D51A799F0EC617C64A@pbswmu00041.corp.pep.pvt> Message-ID: <14ba01c4738c$c7fa45a0$674da8c0@art8100> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_QgjZkboW5369mIY0gzOzlw) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT MessageJunius, I had the YRALIS Championships penciled in on my calendar, but am so far unsure whether I will have crew for it - but it is a possibility. I resigned myself to not getting a one-design division together for it, but if we can get enough boats, then I'll beat the bushes to get crew. My primary goal is to ensure we turn out a NOODs division. If I can get crew together to do both, I will, whether one-design or PHRF. I'll get back to you on YRALIS Champs, but happy to hear that you're in for Larchmont. How about the rest of you out there? Any other takers to show Western LIS how strong our class is? Art ----- Original Message ----- From: Brown, Junius {PCNA} To: 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com' Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:10 AM Subject: RE: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon! Art, Persistence will be at the NOOD, and would prefer to only sail Saturday and Sunday. I am also planning to compete in a new regatta this year, the Championship regatta organized by YRALIS. It's August 28 & 29, and looks like PHRF will sail out of Riverside YC. I'm wondering if there is any interest among the Western LIS boats in competing & perhaps even getting our own division? I will also be sailing in the Greenwich Cup, the week after the NOOD. From a crew perspective, I'm probably covered for the NOOD, but would be interested if there are any F33 sailors, especially sail trimmers, interested in either the Championship or in the Greenwich Cup. Thanks for organizing this, I look forward to seeing you on the course. Junius Brown PERSISTENCE 41465 -----Original Message----- From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:52 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon! Just a reminder that the Larchmont NOODs are coming up September 10-12. I am volunteering to coordinate our class for this event since Kurt handled the Nationals, and this event is not in his immediate region. Can we get a count of who is planning on going this year? Brilliant is in, and I understand Bon Coeurs is as well. We have quite a number of boats on the Sound, and the Larchmont event is a great opportunity to show the sailing community that this class is alive and well, as well as having a great time racing. Let's see if we can surprise everyone with a large turn-out. I understand that in the past, the Frers-33s only sailed Sat & Sun. Last year I hear that the best sailing was on Friday. Of those planning to attend, what's the chance of adding Friday as well. I don't want to do this if it will cost us entries, but it increases the chances of good sailing time so may be worth the effort. Optionally, we can try to arrange with the organizers that a partial class sails Friday, but those races don't get counted in the final results - we can use it as practice. If you are thinking, "I'd like to go, but I don't have enough crew", let me know and we'll start helping you beat the bushes. There are folks from MD to MA who would be interested in crewing, so let's leverage that. Personally, for the Newport I was lucky enough to get crew from two other Frers-33s and it was a tremendous benefit to learn how things are set up and done on the other boats. Please send me your responses as early as possible so we can make this a banner event. Thanks, Art Kelley "Brilliant" 631-261-4920 art@frers33.com --Boundary_(ID_QgjZkboW5369mIY0gzOzlw) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT-----Original Message-----
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:52 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon!Just a reminder that the Larchmont NOODs are coming up September 10-12.I am volunteering to coordinate our class for this event since Kurt handled the Nationals, and this event is not in his immediate region.Can we get a count of who is planning on going this year? Brilliant is in, and I understand Bon Coeurs is as well. We have quite a number of boats on the Sound, and the Larchmont event is a great opportunity to show the sailing community that this class is alive and well, as well as having a great time racing. Let's see if we can surprise everyone with a large turn-out.I understand that in the past, the Frers-33s only sailed Sat & Sun. Last year I hear that the best sailing was on Friday. Of those planning to attend, what's the chance of adding Friday as well. I don't want to do this if it will cost us entries, but it increases the chances of good sailing time so may be worth the effort. Optionally, we can try to arrange with the organizers that a partial class sails Friday, but those races don't get counted in the final results - we can use it as practice.If you are thinking, "I'd like to go, but I don't have enough crew", let me know and we'll start helping you beat the bushes. There are folks from MD to MA who would be interested in crewing, so let's leverage that. Personally, for the Newport I was lucky enough to get crew from two other Frers-33s and it was a tremendous benefit to learn how things are set up and done on the other boats.Please send me your responses as early as possible so we can make this a banner event.Thanks,Art Kelley"Brilliant"631-261-4920
--Boundary_(ID_QgjZkboW5369mIY0gzOzlw)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Jul 28 20:22:02 2004 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (john ricci) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:22:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Does anyone have Neal Melansons Number?? Thanks and my apologies Message-ID: <20040728192202.53318.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com> --- john ricci----- Original Message -----From: Brown, Junius {PCNA}Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 9:10 AMSubject: RE: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon!Art,Persistence will be at the NOOD, and would prefer to only sail Saturday and Sunday. I am also planning to compete in a new regatta this year, the Championship regatta organized by YRALIS. It's August 28 & 29, and looks like PHRF will sail out of Riverside YC. I'm wondering if there is any interest among the Western LIS boats in competing & perhaps even getting our own division? I will also be sailing in the Greenwich Cup, the week after the NOOD.From a crew perspective, I'm probably covered for the NOOD, but would be interested if there are any F33 sailors, especially sail trimmers, interested in either the Championship or in the Greenwich Cup.Thanks for organizing this, I look forward to seeing you on the course.Junius BrownPERSISTENCE41465-----Original Message-----
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 10:52 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Larchmont NOODs - Coming soon!Just a reminder that the Larchmont NOODs are coming up September 10-12.I am volunteering to coordinate our class for this event since Kurt handled the Nationals, and this event is not in his immediate region.Can we get a count of who is planning on going this year? Brilliant is in, and I understand Bon Coeurs is as well. We have quite a number of boats on the Sound, and the Larchmont event is a great opportunity to show the sailing community that this class is alive and well, as well as having a great time racing. Let's see if we can surprise everyone with a large turn-out.I understand that in the past, the Frers-33s only sailed Sat & Sun. Last year I hear that the best sailing was on Friday. Of those planning to attend, what's the chance of adding Friday as well. I don't want to do this if it will cost us entries, but it increases the chances of good sailing time so may be worth the effort. Optionally, we can try to arrange with the organizers that a partial class sails Friday, but those races don't get counted in the final results - we can use it as practice.If you are thinking, "I'd like to go, but I don't have enough crew", let me know and we'll start helping you beat the bushes. There are folks from MD to MA who would be interested in crewing, so let's leverage that. Personally, for the Newport I was lucky enough to get crew from two other Frers-33s and it was a tremendous benefit to learn how things are set up and done on the other boats.Please send me your responses as early as possible so we can make this a banner event.Thanks,Art Kelley"Brilliant"631-261-4920