[frers-list]Sailing Up-wind
Albert Francis X NSSC
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Tue, 8 Jun 2004 10:41:14 -0400
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Dave,
Thanks, yeah I've read through the class rules and understand that
requirement. Since there is only one other Frers 33 on the Chesapeake Bay
we won't be racing one design and PHRF doesn't care about the stove or the
table or the hot water heater and I can have up to 10 people on the boat
which gives me a little advantage on the rail.
Thanks,
FXA
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave O'Brien [mailto:dave@crashtack.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 10:18
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Sailing Up-wind
Before going too far with your weight reduction program, you should take a
good look at the class rules. If you remove or relocate the oven you are
required to carry 40lbs of weight in the space normally occupied by the
oven. There are similar restrictions on other pieces of standard equipment.
http://www.frers33.com/rules/frers33_class_rules.htm
<http://www.frers33.com/rules/frers33_class_rules.htm>
Dave
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Albert Francis X
NSSC
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2004 9:00 AM
To: 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Sailing Up-wind
Junius,
I agree, have new sails, Kevlar/Mylar North and UK. Have a professionally
finished bottom painted with VC Offshore with Teflon and then wet sanded
with 600 until it had a high gloss finish. Have reduced some weight in the
boat around 100 excess pounds including that big oven/stove which I replaced
with a 2 burner stove only job. Will look for more to remove from the boat.
One thing that I have that more and more I know is not right is an extender
on the forestay which extends it an additional 5 inches. This acts to
increase the mast rake and I'm pretty sure Mr. Frers didn't design that into
the boat and Carroll Marine didn't build it into the boat.
Thanks,
Frank
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Dave O'Brien
[mailto:dave@crashtack.com]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 08, =
2004 10:18<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
[frers-list]Sailing
Up-wind</span></font></p>
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too far with
your weight reduction program, you should take a good look at the class =
rules.
If you remove or relocate the oven you are required to carry 40lbs of =
weight in
the space normally occupied by the oven. There are similar restrictions =
on
other pieces of standard equipment.</span></font><font =
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] <b><span
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NSSC<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, June 07, =
2004 9:00
AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: =
[frers-list]Sailing
Up-wind</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
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class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I agree, have new =
sails,
Kevlar/Mylar North and UK.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</span>Have a
professionally finished bottom painted with VC Offshore with Teflon and =
then
wet sanded with 600 until it had a high gloss finish.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun:
yes"> </span>Have reduced some weight in the boat around 100 =
excess
pounds including that big oven/stove which I replaced with a 2 burner =
stove
only job.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </span>Will look for =
more to
remove from the boat.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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class=3DEmailStyle16><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>One thing that I =
have that
more and more I know is not right is an extender on the forestay which =
extends
it an additional 5 inches.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</span>This
acts to increase the mast rake and I’m pretty sure Mr. Frers =
didn’t design that
into the boat and Carroll Marine didn’t build it into the =
boat.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>
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