[frers-list]RE: Weight Reduction enhancements

john ricci frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Wed, 12 May 2004 11:06:18 -0700 (PDT)


Hey Neal,
Do you need crew? I hoep all is well and you enjoyed
the winetr off.. John Ricci
--- Neal Melanson <neal.melanson@mcdata.com> wrote:
> Thanksalot  for this link Arthur(sotto voice)...,
> 25lbs!!!!   Even at $3500, that's a cheap
> performance enhancement compared to a new main or 2,
> and while a new main lasts a few years; it only
> makes me want a new rudder all the more!
>  
> For the rest of the class is seems the resounding
> responses both public and private were to make no
> changes that would affect the one design continuity
> of the class.  Meanwhile I will work hark at keeping
> the rest of my boat light and my crew on a diet,
> starting with myself.  
>  
> Peace.
>  
> Neal Melanson
>  
> Vapor Snail
>  
>  
> 
> 	-----Original Message----- 
> 	From: Arthur Kelley [mailto:akelley@optonline.net] 
> 	Sent: Mon 5/10/2004 8:03 PM 
> 	To: Neal Melanson 
> 	Cc: 
> 	Subject: Re: Weight Reduction enhancements
> 	
> 	
> 
> 	Neal,
> 	
> 	While I am essentially opposed to changing our
> rudders, have you researched
> 	the cost of a high tech rudder?  It would be useful
> to know.  I see from the
> 	Soverel 33 list, that they have an owner willing to
> build them for about
> 	$3500.  Is a standard rudder half of that price?
> 	
> 
>
http://www.soverel33.com/Discussions/RudderReplacement.html
> 	
> 	They have a good rundown of their discussion.  I
> think the conclusion was
> 	basically sure, if you have to replace the rudder,
> carbon fiber is fine, but
> 	you have to install weight inside the rudder to
> equal the weight of the
> 	stock rudder.  Seems a shame, but keeps the boats
> even.  After all on that
> 	boat, a new carbon rudder is about 10% of the cost
> of a decent boat.
> 	
> 	As I alluded to in my earlier posting, I may have
> to replace my rudder stock
> 	and bearings again in a year or two.  If the work
> is that extreme, I'd love
> 	to go all the way - but except for benefiting from
> the strength of the
> 	carbon stock, going lighter would risk making the
> fleet less competitive
> 	within itself - one of the main reasons I bought
> the boat.
> 	
> 	Just my thoughts,
> 	Art
> 	
> 	
> 	>                       "Neal Melanson"
> 	>
> 	>                       <neal.melanson@mc       
> To:       "Brown, Junius
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> cc:
> 	>
> 	>                                               
> Subject:  Weight Reduction
> 	> enhancements
> 	>
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> May I ask for some opinions/discussion about
> improving the preformance and
> 	> viability of our boats as a class by allowing
> some bylaw changes or
> 	> commisioning a redesign in a few places???
> 	>
> 	> For example:
> 	>
> 	> I never use my hot water heater, can we dump it
> as a requirement?
> 	>
> 	> Backstays can we migrate to PBO or other light
> weight aramid?
> 	>
> 	> Composite Rudder???  At 110 lbs, I think the
> stock rudder is about 70lbs
> 	> overweight.
> 	>
> 	> Fwd Cabin doors, - mine is a 40lb  pair of
> bifolding solid plywood slabs
> 	> yet I hear some boats are "as from the factory"
> equipped with a fabric
> 	> door! - no fair!
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> Cheers,
> 	>
> 	>
> 	> Neal Melanson
> 	>
> 	> Vapor Trail
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