[frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #9 - Keel
Allan Heyward
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Fri, 14 May 2004 12:49:04 -0400
John:
When I had to remove my keel 2 years ago, we found that tightening the
forward keel bolts was simply compressing the wood filler and that
compression had caused the mast step to crack. Rather than open it up
and cut it all out and replace it, we put a steel plate under the mast
step and tubes around the two forward bolts so that they could be
tightened against the plate sufficiently without compressing. It has
worked well and we are getting no deflection or other unwelcome
movement, despite having found bottom unexpectedly several times in the
last two seasons. The cost for this portion of the operation was not a
significant part of the cost of removing the keel replacing keel bolts,
rebuilding and reattaching the keel. I have some pictures, if you'd
care to see them.
Allan M. Heyward, Jr.
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John,
As I write I am waiting for a call from a local boat yard as to when
they can start work on my keel. I hit a mooring block last year and
incurred a crack in the hull forward of the keel, and also bent the keel
to port by about five degrees. The keel envelope will have to be
removed, the keel dropped, the keel goes to Mars Metal for repair, and
the teak stringer that runs along the center line from the bow to the
main bulkhead has to be replaced.
The bill for the interior part of the work which in effect is replacing
the stringer comes to $4575.00 (without tip!). It sounds like your yard
is doing it cheaply, although the yard I'm using in Chicago is one of
the more, if not the most expensive around. But they're also reputed to
be the best in the city.
Fortunately my insurance company is paying for the repair, which in
total comes to just shy or $20,000, and then the Chicago Park District
will be having a serious discussion with State Farms' lawyers about
their placement of mooring blocks in channels.
I'm planning on taking some pictures just in case any of you want to see
what the inside of your keel structure looks like. In talking with one
of the guys at Crowleys, who is related to Jim Anderson, the former GM
at Carroll Marine when they built these boats, they all suffer from what
they euphemistically call "rocking keel syndrome". He said that if your
keel hasn't been fixed on the 33, its only a matter of time and that I
was lucky to hit the mooring block and have my insurance and/or the park
district pay for the job.
Let me know if you have any other questions
Frank Wittosch
Pepperke 2.0
Lake Michigan
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> Folks,
> I recently had a problem with my boat (41K worth of a problem, but
> insured) and now it seems as though I am being held up for a problem
> with the keel bolts and the wood forward that supports the keel. I
> recall a discussion about this in the past..can someone please email
me
> their findings or what they did to alleviate and replace the rot? Does
> $2,500 sound correct for this repair?
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> Thanks for this,
>
> John Ricci
> ALMA
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