[frers-list]frers33 for cruising
Capt.Steve
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I bought a boat that was hurt by Ivan. I am looking for a bow pulpit. Doe=
s
anyone know where i can find one? I will be very grateful for any help. I=
am
attempting to get the boat ready for the charter season here in Destin. =0D
=0D
Capt.Steve Land=0D
Ms. B. Haven Sail Charters=0D
next to Lucky Snapper=0D
Destin. FL.=0D
(850)21-RELAX=0D
sail.merriweather.com =0D
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From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=0D
Date: 02/20/05 22:00:03=0D
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=0D
Subject: Re: [frers-list]frers33 for cruising=0D
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Rob,=0D
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I've only had my boat a little over 2 seasons now. My delivery from=0D
Buzzards Bay to Long Island in November 2002, included 2 days of 25 kts=0D
straight upwind with 6-8 foot seas, and it was my first time sailing the=0D
boat. #3 and double reef was the best balance. Absolutely solid, but us=
e=0D
the checkstays in this kind of sailing to protect the mast.=0D
=0D
Last summer we went to Newport (for Nationals), and our return trip inclu=
ded=0D
about 10 hrs of 30 kts directly on the stern, at night, with at least 8'=0D
seas, but we really couldn't see the waves through the heavy rain and of=0D
course, darkness - we were trying to keep to a schedule. We really=0D
shouldn't have been out there, but I never really feared for the boat. F=
or=0D
cruising, I recommend wheel steering on this boat since it has such a lar=
ge=0D
rudder. We had a tiller originally and felt it could get out of control.=
=0D
With the wheel, it is easy to control in most conditions (I have an Edson=
=0D
CDi steering system).=0D
=0D
We haven't done much cruising yet, but we did a 3 day Memorial Day weeken=
d=0D
with our two kids (ages 6 & 9). With 15-20kts on the bow 2 out of 3 days=
,=0D
the kids got a little seasick since they insisted on staying below, but t=
he=0D
good news is that we made great time so were able to minimize the time th=
ey=0D
were uncomfortable. When you cruise this boat with a group of other boat=
s,=0D
plan to be one of the first to the destination. I think there is plenty =
of=0D
room for the 4 of us for quite a few years. I am 5'10" tall and the head=
is=0D
a little cramped for me, but I would rather have the lower freeboard that=
=0D
affords, than the taller headroom.=0D
=0D
John mentioned the accumulation of water under the stove. I drilled a=0D
limber hole through that member, and coated it with epoxy resin and it he=
lps=0D
a lot. The bilge is fairly shallow, so a leaky stuffing box (like mine o=
n=0D
my delivery) can quickly develop into water sloshing over the floorboards=
=2E=0D
You just have to keep an eye on it, and adjust the stuffing box carefully=
-=0D
or go to a dripless system.=0D
=0D
Certainly have the boat surveyed and check the mast step and for moisture=
in=0D
the core, but most boats have fared very well.=0D
=0D
Hopefully some of the other owners who do a lot more cruising than us wil=
l=0D
chime in, but after a lot of research we settled on this boat, and have n=
ot=0D
been disappointed.=0D
=0D
Art=0D
"Brilliant"=0D
----- Original Message -----=0D
From: <slrd903@comcast.net>=0D
To: <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>=0D
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:14 PM=0D
Subject: [frers-list]frers33 for cruising=0D
=0D
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> I'm looking for a clean frers33 and am looking for some candid advice.=0D
>=0D
> Can anyone comment on the overall cruising capability of the boat? This=
is=0D
> truly going to have be a dual purpose boat and will have to accommodate=
a=0D
> few long weekends (maybe up to 5-7 days) per year (usually just me and =
my=0D
> wife), up and down the New England coast.=0D
>=0D
> Is the boat dry enough for cruising?=0D
>=0D
> Has anyone managed to fit a short dodger in front of the traveller?=0D
>=0D
> Has anyone been caught in a blow in a frers33. How did she manage?=0D
>=0D
> Any advice on what to look out for in terms of typical survey issues=0D
> (i.e., mast step issues, delamination, etc.). Any serious moisture issu=
es=0D
> with the cored hull?=0D
>=0D
> Any other advice?=0D
>=0D
> Thanks for any info,=0D
>=0D
> Rob=0D
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<DIV>I bought a boat that was hurt by Ivan. I am looking for a bow pulpit=
=2E Does anyone know where i can find one? I will be very grateful for an=
y help. I am attempting to get the boat ready for the charter season here=
in Destin. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DSignature size=3D6>Capt.Steve Land</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DSignature size=3D4>Ms. B. Haven Sail Charters</FONT></D=
IV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DSimSun size=3D4>next to Lucky Snapper</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DSimSun size=3D4>D</FONT>estin. FL.</DIV>
<DIV>(850)21-RELAX</DIV>
<DIV>sail.merriweather.com </DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Date:</B></I> 02/20/05 22:=
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<DIV dir=3Dltr style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt" <i><B>Subject:</B></I> Re: [frer=
s-list]frers33 for cruising</DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Rob,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I've only had my boat a little over 2 seasons now. My del=
ivery from</DIV>
<DIV>Buzzards Bay to Long Island in November 2002, included 2 days of 25 =
kts</DIV>
<DIV>straight upwind with 6-8 foot seas, and it was my first time sailing=
the</DIV>
<DIV>boat. #3 and double reef was the best balance.  =
;Absolutely solid, but use</DIV>
<DIV>the checkstays in this kind of sailing to protect the mast.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Last summer we went to Newport (for Nationals), and our return trip =
included</DIV>
<DIV>about 10 hrs of 30 kts directly on the stern, at night, with at leas=
t 8'</DIV>
<DIV>seas, but we really couldn't see the waves through the heavy rain an=
d of</DIV>
<DIV>course, darkness - we were trying to keep to a schedule. =
We really</DIV>
<DIV>shouldn't have been out there, but I never really feared for the boa=
t. For</DIV>
<DIV>cruising, I recommend wheel steering on this boat since it has such =
a large</DIV>
<DIV>rudder. We had a tiller originally and felt it could get =
out of control.</DIV>
<DIV>With the wheel, it is easy to control in most conditions (I have an =
Edson</DIV>
<DIV>CDi steering system).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We haven't done much cruising yet, but we did a 3 day Memorial Day w=
eekend</DIV>
<DIV>with our two kids (ages 6 & 9). With 15-20kts on the =
bow 2 out of 3 days,</DIV>
<DIV>the kids got a little seasick since they insisted on staying below, =
but the</DIV>
<DIV>good news is that we made great time so were able to minimize the ti=
me they</DIV>
<DIV>were uncomfortable. When you cruise this boat with a grou=
p of other boats,</DIV>
<DIV>plan to be one of the first to the destination. I think t=
here is plenty of</DIV>
<DIV>room for the 4 of us for quite a few years. I am 5'10" ta=
ll and the head is</DIV>
<DIV>a little cramped for me, but I would rather have the lower freeboard=
that</DIV>
<DIV>affords, than the taller headroom.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John mentioned the accumulation of water under the stove.  =
;I drilled a</DIV>
<DIV>limber hole through that member, and coated it with epoxy resin and =
it helps</DIV>
<DIV>a lot. The bilge is fairly shallow, so a leaky stuffing b=
ox (like mine on</DIV>
<DIV>my delivery) can quickly develop into water sloshing over the floorb=
oards.</DIV>
<DIV>You just have to keep an eye on it, and adjust the stuffing box care=
fully -</DIV>
<DIV>or go to a dripless system.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Certainly have the boat surveyed and check the mast step and for moi=
sture in</DIV>
<DIV>the core, but most boats have fared very well.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Hopefully some of the other owners who do a lot more cruising than u=
s will</DIV>
<DIV>chime in, but after a lot of research we settled on this boat, and h=
ave not</DIV>
<DIV>been disappointed.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art</DIV>
<DIV>"Brilliant"</DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV>From: <<A href=3D"mailto:slrd903@comcast.net">slrd903@comcast.net=
</A>></DIV>
<DIV>To: <<A href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@l=
ists.frers33.com</A>></DIV>
<DIV>Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 10:14 PM</DIV>
<DIV>Subject: [frers-list]frers33 for cruising</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>> I'm looking for a clean frers33 and am looking for some candid =
advice.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Can anyone comment on the overall cruising capability of the bo=
at? This is</DIV>
<DIV>> truly going to have be a dual purpose boat and will have to acc=
ommodate a</DIV>
<DIV>> few long weekends (maybe up to 5-7 days) per year (usually just=
me and my</DIV>
<DIV>> wife), up and down the New England coast.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Is the boat dry enough for cruising?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Has anyone managed to fit a short dodger in front of the travel=
ler?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Has anyone been caught in a blow in a frers33. How did she mana=
ge?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Any advice on what to look out for in terms of typical survey i=
ssues</DIV>
<DIV>> (i.e., mast step issues, delamination, etc.). Any serious moist=
ure issues</DIV>
<DIV>> with the cored hull?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Any other advice?</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Thanks for any info,</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> Rob</DIV>
<DIV>> _______________________________________________</DIV>
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