[frers-list]# 2 Genoa

Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:28:35 -0400

Wanted to get back with everyone and report results on my new number 2.

I wound up buy a UK tape drive #2 for two reasons.  First, they UK guys =
were a bit less than the North 3DLs which have just skyrocketed in the =
last two years.  Second, since I knew the wind range I was interested in =
was about 12 to 19 knots the stronger UK tape drive Kevlar seemed like a =
sail that could hold up better under the conditions I'd be using it in.

I received the sail, which I had cut as a 140% genoa, about two months =
ago and have only had two occasions to use it since.  On the first =
occasion winds starting the race were at about 14 knots and diminished =
down to around 8 knots at the finish.  Even so the sail drove the boat =
very well with much less heal than the 155% would have provided and just =
as much speed.  In addition I did not have the big back wind problem =
associated with heavier wind due to having to lower the traveler to keep =
the boat on it's feet.  Overall we finish well that day and very well, =
considering some pretty sloppy crew work, the next time we used it.

I think the 140% genoa is a good number 2 on this boat keeping it =
standing up well and still providing a dramatic driving force for good =
speed up wind.

In addition in the off season I had the mast step rebuilt and moved the =
mast forward about 2 inches.  I've centered the mast and those things =
seem to have paid off very nicely in much better upwind performance.  =
The only thing we don't seem to be doing very well right now is getting =
the boat moving in the ultra light stuff, 3 knots or less.

Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621

p.s. Kurt is writing this I realized I hadn't paid my dues yet.  Check =
is in the mail.

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Albert Francis X NSSC =20
Sent:	Wednesday, October 06, 2004 6:40
To:	'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'
Subject:	RE: [frers-list]# 2 Genoa

Junius,

That's exactly my concern.  With an overpowered genoa and your main =
luffing or with a big bubble in the luff of the main you really cannot =
point very well.  However, with the right size genoa you can trim that =
main in tight and out point everyone.

Thanks,
Frank

 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Brown, Junius {PCNA} [mailto:Junius.Brown@pepsi.com]=20
Sent:	Tuesday, October 05, 2004 17:15
To:	'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'
Subject:	RE: [frers-list]# 2 Genoa

I have a cruising #2 at 135%, and wish I had a racing #2 135 for all the
same reasons below.  The window on the #2 is narrow.  I'd go with the =
135 so
you can keep your main fully powered in 15-20 and boat upright.  I've =
had
unbelievable success with the #3 and main in just 18+ because the boat =
gets
upright and you really out points the rest of the fleet with almost no
leeway while the rest of the fleet is slipping sideways.  The only =
weakness
is that if the wind drops below those critical wind levels it's simply =
not
enough sail.

-----Original Message-----
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Albert Francis =
X
NSSC
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 1:42 PM
To: 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'
Subject: [frers-list]# 2 Genoa

Wanted to ask a general question about the # 2 sail for the Frers 33.  I
bought a new #1 3DL 155% genoa last year and it has performed very well =
for
us this summer.  It has a rated wind range of 0 to 19 knots but in =
reality
once you get up around 14 or 15 knots you are badly overpowered and to =
keep
the boat on it's feet you have to be luffing most of the main sail.  =
Even
with the main sail traveler down low and the mainsheet eased the #1 =
genoa
trimmed in tight creates a lot of heal nearing 25 to 30% in 15 knots.  I
also have a really strong all Kevlar #3 100% jib with battens that works
very well in the 26 knots and up wind range. =20

I will be looking at purchasing a #2  3DL this year at the Annapolis =
boat
show and have already had discussions with North about this.  Their
suggestion is to go with a 145% cut flat, but that only reduces the sail
area by 29 sq feet where as a 140% reduces it by 43 sq feet and a 135%
reduces it down by 58 sq feet.   Since I'm really looking for something =
in
the 16 to 25 knot range I'm not exactly sure which one of these will =
work
best.  Clearly at 16 knots the 145 would be a good sail and not so good =
at
24 knots.  Any and all suggestions will be appreciated, especially first
hand experience.

Thanks,
Frank Albert=20
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