[frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #161 - 1 msg
Louise Brokaw
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Robert,
I hope it's my boat you are coming to see - Pchomp Pchomp at =
Haverstraw Marina on the Hudson. My husband loved the boat and cruised =
and raced with it, but tragically, he died of colon cancer this past =
September. Although I'm the best first mate, I am not a sailor, so his =
beloved Frers 33 is up for sale. If it's another Frers you're looking =
at in NY, you should check ut ours also.
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Louise Brokaw
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Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:53 PM
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #161 - 1 msg
Frank;
Is it possible to get on your boat to get a reference for =
the size of the cock pit and the room down below?
I am going to try to get out to see a Frers in NY but I will need a =
few weeks to get any reasonable flight reduction. If this time table =
gets moved out too far I will probably just drive out on a Friday night, =
get there sometime Saturday mid day. Get some sleep and then turn around =
and drive back.
I live in the northwest suburbs area if this help
My cell number is 847-254-0505
Our home number is 847-381-5619
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Robert,
I have one of the two Frers 33's that are currently sailing in the =
Chicago area. Regards to your questions,=20
1. The main problem seems to be with the area under the mast step. =
There is wood in there which runs from an area just forward of the aft =
end of the v berth to the transverse stringer just aft of the main =
bulkhead. If water has gotten into that area (and at this age of boats =
you can assume there is at least some intrusion on all of the boats) the =
area becomes spongy and the mast can pump, or the boat will flex along =
the transverse stringer. Look for a boat that has already had this work =
done. For more information you can contact Crowleys Yacht Yard as they =
did the work on my boat (Pepperke 2.0) and another boat that has since =
shipped out to Salt Lake City (Impetuous)=20
2. No electrical problems, at least as far as my boat
3. I have a tiller boat and I would guess that all you'd have to do =
would be to remove the quadrant hardware and attach a rudder cap to the =
top of the rudder post. I would assume that its the emergency rudder on =
the wheel boats and might be the same as the tiller boats. Schaeffer =
made the rudder cap on our boat.=20
4. The keel hull design is a bit strange and if a signidicant amount =
of water has gotten into the area of the mast step, it can migrate into =
the keel root. The boat has a keel root which extends some 8 to 12 =
inches below the hull. The keel bolts extend down this far and attache =
the keel to the root. Then the keel is encased in a fiberglass sock and =
the shape is faired into the sock. In fact the eliptical trailing edge =
on the keel is hollow in some areas. If the keel root has been degraded =
due to the water intrusion, them the root has to be rebuilt from the =
inside as well as the outside. This was done to my boat and Crowleys can =
fill you in on the details.=20
If you have any other questions you can contact me directly at =
fwitt1@comcast.net. I can also put you in touch with the other Chicago =
owner who sails Mystified. There may be another boat in Waukegan, =
although I don't know the name, there was another in Hammond named =
Seacord, and yet another in Michigan City named The Fearless Frog, but =
these boats are all inactive from what we can see. It would be nice to =
get another Frers into competition in Chicago.=20
Frank Wittosch
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Eras Light ITC">Robert,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Eras Light ITC"> I hope it's my =
boat you are=20
coming to see - Pchomp Pchomp at Haverstraw Marina on the Hudson. =
My=20
husband loved the boat and cruised and raced with it, but tragically, he =
died of=20
colon cancer this past September. Although I'm the best first =
mate, I am=20
not a sailor, so his beloved Frers 33 is up for sale. If it's =
another=20
Frers you're looking at in NY, you should check ut ours =
also.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [frers-list]Re: =
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digest, Vol 1 #161 - 1 msg</DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
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Is it possible to get on your boat to get a reference for the size of =
the cock=20
pit and the room down below?</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I am going =
to try to=20
get out to see a Frers in NY but I will need a few weeks to get any =
reasonable=20
flight reduction. If this time table gets moved out too far I will =
probably=20
just drive out on a Friday night, get there sometime Saturday mid day. =
Get=20
some sleep and then turn around and drive back.</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I live in =
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northwest suburbs area if this help</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">My cell =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Our home =
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Robert,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">I have one of the two Frers 33's that are =
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sailing in the Chicago area. Regards to your questions,=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">1. The main problem seems to be with the =
area under=20
the mast step. There is wood in there which runs from an area just =
forward of=20
the aft end of the v berth to the transverse stringer just aft of the =
main=20
bulkhead. If water has gotten into that area (and at this age of boats =
you can=20
assume there is at least some intrusion on all of the boats) the area =
becomes=20
spongy and the mast can pump, or the boat will flex along the =
transverse=20
stringer. Look for a boat that has already had this work done. For =
more=20
information you can contact Crowleys Yacht Yard as they did the work =
on my=20
boat (Pepperke 2.0) and another boat that has since shipped out =
to Salt=20
Lake City (Impetuous) </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">2. No electrical problems, at least as far =
as my=20
boat</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">3. I have a tiller boat and I would guess =
that all=20
you'd have to do would be to remove the quadrant hardware and attach a =
rudder=20
cap to the top of the rudder post. I would assume that its the =
emergency=20
rudder on the wheel boats and might be the same as the tiller boats. =
Schaeffer=20
made the rudder cap on our boat. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">4. The keel hull design is a bit strange and =
if a=20
signidicant amount of water has gotten into the area of the mast step, =
it can=20
migrate into the keel root. The boat has a keel root which extends =
some 8 to=20
12 inches below the hull. The keel bolts extend down this far and =
attache the=20
keel to the root. Then the keel is encased in a fiberglass sock and =
the shape=20
is faired into the sock. In fact the eliptical trailing edge on the =
keel is=20
hollow in some areas. If the keel root has been degraded due to =
the=20
water intrusion, them the root has to be rebuilt from the inside as =
well as=20
the outside. This was done to my boat and Crowleys can fill you in on =
the=20
details. </SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">If you have any other questions you can =
contact me=20
directly at <A =
href=3D"mailto:fwitt1@comcast.net">fwitt1@comcast.net</A>. I can=20
also put you in touch with the other Chicago owner who sails =
Mystified. There=20
may be another boat in Waukegan, although I don't know the name, there =
was=20
another in Hammond named Seacord, and yet another in Michigan City =
named The=20
Fearless Frog, but these boats are all inactive from what we can =
see. It=20
would be nice to get another Frers into competition in Chicago.=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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<BR>> From: "Stephen, Robert" <BR><RSTEPHEN@WEBERSTEPHEN.COM>> =
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quoted-printable <BR>> <BR>> I am currently interested in =
purchasing a=20
frers 33. <BR>> <BR>> =3D20 <BR>> <BR>> 1) Can anyone =
update me as=20
to where any specific coring issues in <BR>> hull or the deck =
area that=20
might be consistent with most of these boats? <BR>> <BR>> 2) =
If I=20
wanted to change out the wheel steering to a tiller is <BR>> this =
reasonable or does the installation look like a morphidite? <BR>> =
<BR>> 3) Any questionable electrical to look for? <BR>> =
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Any concern on the design as it relates to the keel to hull <BR>> =
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or attachment. Separate from a bad grounding. <BR>> <BR>> =
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<BR>> =3D20 <BR>> <BR>> I live in the Chicago area <BR>> =
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Thanks for any advice or information anyone can offer on "what to =
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<P class=3D3dmsonormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt">> size=3D3D2 <BR>> =
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Can anyone update me as to where any =
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consistent with most of =3D <BR>> these <BR>> =
boats?</SPAN></FONT></P>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If I wanted to change out the wheel =
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