[frers-list]questions on a purchase of a frers 33
Arthur Kelley
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Fri, 03 Feb 2006 16:09:02 -0500
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And as part of that same question, is that transverse member completely =
horizontal from settee to settee, or do some angle downward toward the =
mast butt? I saw one where it was sloped downward, whereas mine is =
completely horizontal. Was that other displaying damage, or was that by =
design?
#55, built 1990.
Art
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Albert, Francis X CIV SEA 01=20
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: [frers-list]questions on a purchase of a frers 33
Alright big question is where all these boats made the same and if =
anyone knows of a different version. Allen your boat was number 14 what =
year was your boat built? Wild thing was number 37 and may have been =
built in the same year as mine.
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Thanks,
Frank Albert
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]On Behalf Of Albert, Francis =
X CIV SEA 01
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 7:09
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: RE: [frers-list]questions on a purchase of a frers 33
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Bob,
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My boat may have that new crack problem. I noticed last summer water =
getting in to the bilge area. This fall when they hauled the boat there =
was a crack right at the top of the keel right at where you would =
suppose the keel to hull joint would be (however, in one of these =
discussions someone mentioned the actual hull is lower, down the keel =
like about 10 to 12 inches) and water from the bilge was seeping out. =
That lower hull thing seems pretty strange and my yard says the keel and =
hull joint are right at that crack. Their suggestion for this year is =
to snug up the keel bolts and then grind out the crack and fill it with =
5200, fairing it using alcohol. They said if that doesn't work then =
next year they will remove the bolts and lift the boat off the keel by =
about 3 inches. Their experience with this process has taught them a =
couple of things. First most boats had the keels joined to the hull =
just this way with a ton of 5200 spread over the entire top of the keel. =
Second, 5200 really does not want to let go. They've had boats in the =
lift like this for four hours with the only thing holding the keel up =
being the 5200.
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If anyone has had a similar experience I'd like to hear about it.
=20
Thanks,
Frank Albert
=20
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]On Behalf Of Allan Heyward
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 12:03
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: RE: [frers-list]questions on a purchase of a frers 33
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Bob
=20
I have a 1987 Frers 33 that sails and races on the Chesapeake Bay. =
I've read Frank's response on your question 4 and only have a couple of =
things to add, based on my experience:
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The construction of the transverse stringer leaves a void below the =
stringer that extends to the leading edge of the keel sump to which the =
keel is bolted at the point of transition into the hull. I don't know =
for certain if this will be true on all boats, as I understand some may =
not have wood in the stringers, but where it exists, it creates a =
potential structural weak point. If the leading edge of the keel at the =
hull shows separation you will get a leak that will not only contribute =
to deterioration of the wood stringer, but provides a path to the bilge: =
the reason is that you are not seeing separation between keel and hull, =
but a crack in the sump which, over time and load can create a tear in =
the hull. This is one reason a fix from the inside is desirable and =
that you should look carefully at the leading edge of the keel at the =
hull. The fix is not as traumatic as the problem sounds. The other =
thing to check is the keel bolts for deep crevice corrosion, as on at =
least one boat (mine) there was a mismatch between stainless in the =
bolts and nuts that caused substantial erosion of several of the keel =
bolts.
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Other than that, the boat is strong as an ox and a delight to sail and =
race.
=20
Allan M. Heyward, Jr.
COOK, HEYWARD, LEE, HOPPER & FEEHAN, P.C.
804-747-4500
=20
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Stephen, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 7:02 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]questions on a purchase of a frers 33
=20
I am currently interested in purchasing a frers 33.
=20
1) Can anyone update me as to where any specific coring issues =
in hull or the deck area that might be consistent with most of these =
boats?
2) If I wanted to change out the wheel steering to a tiller is =
this reasonable or does the installation look like a morphidite?
3) Any questionable electrical to look for?
4) Any concern on the design as it relates to the keel to hull =
design or attachment. Separate from a bad grounding.
=20
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I live in the Chicago area
Thanks for any advice or information anyone can offer on "what to look =
for"
=20
Bob
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>And as part of that same question, is =
that=20
transverse member completely horizontal from settee to settee, or do =
some angle=20
downward toward the mast butt? I saw one where it was sloped =
downward,=20
whereas mine is completely horizontal. Was that other displaying =
damage,=20
or was that by design?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>#55, built 1990.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Art</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=3Dfrancis.albert@navy.mil =
href=3D"mailto:francis.albert@navy.mil">Albert,=20
Francis X CIV SEA 01</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dfrers-list@lists.frers33.com=20
=
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 03, 2006 =
3:14=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
[frers-list]questions on a=20
purchase of a frers 33</DIV>
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big question is where all these boats made the same and if anyone =
knows of a=20
different version.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Allen your=20
boat was number 14 what year was your boat built?<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Wild thing was number 37 and =
may have=20
been built in the same year as =
mine.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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<A=20
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]<B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Albert, Francis X =
CIV SEA=20
01<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Friday, =
February 03,=20
2006 7:09<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: =
[frers-list]questions on a=20
purchase of a frers 33</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle20><FONT face=3DArial =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle20><FONT face=3DArial =
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size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: =
12.0pt">My=20
boat may have that new crack problem.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>I noticed last summer water getting in to the bilge area.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This fall when they hauled =
the boat=20
there was a crack right at the top of the keel right at where you =
would=20
suppose the keel to hull joint would be (however, in one of these =
discussions=20
someone mentioned the actual hull is lower, down the keel like about =
10 to 12=20
inches) and water from the bilge was seeping out.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That lower hull thing seems =
pretty=20
strange and my yard says the keel and hull joint are right at that =
crack.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Their suggestion for this =
year is to=20
snug up the keel bolts and then grind out the crack and fill it with =
5200,=20
fairing it using alcohol.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>They said if that doesn't work then next year they will remove =
the=20
bolts and lift the boat off the keel by about 3 inches.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Their experience with this =
process has=20
taught them a couple of things.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>First most boats had the keels joined to the hull just this way =
with a=20
ton of 5200 spread over the entire top of the keel.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Second, 5200 really does not =
want to=20
let go.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>They've had =
boats in the=20
lift like this for four hours with the only thing holding the keel up =
being=20
the 5200.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN class=3DEmailStyle20><FONT face=3DArial =
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anyone has had a similar experience I'd like to hear about=20
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]<B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Allan =
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2006=20
12:03<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
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[frers-list]questions on a=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The =
construction of=20
the transverse stringer leaves a void below the stringer that extends =
to the=20
leading edge of the keel sump to which the keel is bolted at the point =
of=20
transition into the hull. I don=92t know for certain if this =
will be true=20
on all boats, as I understand some may not have wood in the stringers, =
but=20
where it exists, it creates a potential structural weak =
point. If=20
the leading edge of the keel at the hull shows separation you will get =
a leak=20
that will not only contribute to deterioration of the wood stringer, =
but=20
provides a path to the bilge: the reason is that you are not seeing =
separation=20
between keel and hull, but a crack in the sump which, over time and =
load can=20
create a tear in the hull. This is one reason a fix from the =
inside is=20
desirable and that you should look carefully at the leading edge of =
the keel=20
at the hull. The fix is not as traumatic as the problem =
sounds. =20
The other thing to check is the keel bolts for deep crevice corrosion, =
as on=20
at least one boat (mine) there was a mismatch between stainless in the =
bolts=20
and nuts that caused substantial erosion of several of the keel=20
bolts.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Other than =
that, the=20
boat is strong as an ox and a delight to sail and =
race.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoAutoSig><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Allan M. =
Heyward,=20
Jr.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoAutoSig><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">COOK, =
HEYWARD, LEE,=20
HOPPER & FEEHAN, P.C.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoAutoSig><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">804-747-4500</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Tahoma">-----Original=20
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>=20
frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]=20
<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Stephen,=20
Robert<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> =
Wednesday,=20
February 01, 2006 7:02 AM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: =
bold">To:</SPAN></B>=20
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> [frers-list]questions =
on a=20
purchase of a frers 33</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I am=20
currently interested in purchasing a frers 33.</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">1)</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: =
black"> =20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Can anyone =
update me=20
as to where any specific coring issues in hull or the deck area that =
might be=20
consistent with most of these boats?</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">2)</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: =
black"> =20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If I =
wanted to=20
change out the wheel steering to a tiller is this reasonable or does =
the=20
installation look like a morphidite?</SPAN></FONT><FONT =
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">3)</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: =
black"> =20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any =
questionable=20
electrical to look for?</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 1in; TEXT-INDENT: =
-0.25in"><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">4)</SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack size=3D1><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; COLOR: =
black"> =20
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Any =
concern on the=20
design as it relates to the keel to hull design or attachment. =
Separate from a=20
bad grounding.</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT=20
color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">I live=20
in the Chicago area</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack=20
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: =
Arial">Thanks=20
for any advice or information anyone can offer on =93what to look=20
for=94</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=3Dblack><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: black; mso-color-alt: =
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