From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Mar 22 03:44:54 2006
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:44:54 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
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I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's query about who is coming to Newport this year. If you are on the fence, let me give you my perspective.
We have only participated twice now, because we've only had the boat 3 seasons. I went up there the first year with a green crew and no expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple of people form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a blast! We even beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the crew was amazing.
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at times and the competition is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of excuses for another boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone stepped up his/her game plan two notches. By the time we got home, the team was really psyched and our subsequent results showed it..
We had the same response this year. About half of the crew had been with us the year before, there were a couple of "greenies" and 2 folks from other boats - one Frers and one not. I now have one really pumped up crew. We have a dozen people wanting to come along and that's without bringing in "special players". (Matt - you're a regular now, not a ringer!).
This event is my single biggest crew builder. People love the venue - and the word gets out about that. They love the intense racing and the opportunity to race against really good sailors in the same boats. We had the same finish at Nationals last year as the year before - we beat one boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other events, it's priceless.
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", stop worrying. This is the best way to get better. These three days are worth a whole season of PHRF - maybe more. Besides, we have our own little race at the back of the fleet that's as intense as the group at the front.
This event requires more logistics than most, that's true. But don't you owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up with the "other" guys? When else does the LIS group get to tangle with the MA group?
To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on a transport schedule, we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep each other awake overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - we'll race you to Zelda's!
I hope to see may of you out there this year!
Art
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I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's
query about who is coming to Newport this year. If you are on the fence,
let me give you my perspective.
We have only participated twice now, because we've
only had the boat 3 seasons. I went up there the first year with a green
crew and no expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple
of people form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a
blast! We even beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the crew was
amazing.
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at
times and the competition is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of
excuses for another boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone
stepped up his/her game plan two notches. By the time we got home, the
team was really psyched and our subsequent results showed it..
We had the same response this year. About
half of the crew had been with us the year before, there were a couple of
"greenies" and 2 folks from other boats - one Frers and one not. I now
have one really pumped up crew. We have a dozen people wanting to come
along and that's without bringing in "special players". (Matt - you're a
regular now, not a ringer!).
This event is my single biggest crew builder.
People love the venue - and the word gets out about that. They love the
intense racing and the opportunity to race against really good sailors in the
same boats. We had the same finish at Nationals last year as the year
before - we beat one boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other
events, it's priceless.
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", stop
worrying. This is the best way to get better. These three days are
worth a whole season of PHRF - maybe more. Besides, we have our own little
race at the back of the fleet that's as intense as the group at the
front.
This event requires more logistics than most,
that's true. But don't you owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up
with the "other" guys? When else does the LIS group get to tangle with the
MA group?
To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on
a transport schedule, we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep each
other awake overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - we'll
race you to Zelda's!
I hope to see may of you out there this
year!
Art
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Mar 22 13:42:36 2006
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Kurt Hudson)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:42:36 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
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Well said Art. Eclipse did our first Nationals back in the late 80's when it
used to be the Newport NOOD regatta. We didn't have a "firm grasp" on how to
use the spinnaker yet. I remember Barry Caroll yelling at us to put on our
boom vang going downwind (he was on another boat). Needless to say it was
baptism by fire!
Racing one design is great since you can throw the stop watch away. But more
importantly, it's great to see all the regulars each year; and meet the new
owners. We have a very special group of people and boats. A boat that was
designed in the mid 80's is still a hell of a lot of fun to sail today.
We've been called "the blue collar one design class" by some - I kind of
like that!
Some people have expressed an interest of a non-spinnaker class. If enough
of you want to do that, I'll ask the Race Committee if they can accommodate
us. Just let me know. It could also be a cruising rendezvous for boats that
would like to meet the other owners. This could feed into our annual class
meeting and a group dinner.
For those of you that would like to come but don't have enough crew, please
let me know. I will help facilitate with other boats that may have too many.
Or maybe you'd like to jump on with another boat to experience the regatta.
Let me know as well.
If you're thinking about going, lodging does fill up quickly. I have some
contacts in Newport if you need assistance. It's more fun with more boats!
Please consider joining us!
http://www.gonewport.com/
http://www.visitri.com/newport.html
http://www.newportchamber.com/
Regards,
Kurt
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:45 PM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's query about who is coming
to Newport this year. If you are on the fence, let me give you my
perspective.
We have only participated twice now, because we've only had the boat 3
seasons. I went up there the first year with a green crew and no
expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple of people
form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a blast! We even
beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the crew was amazing.
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at times and the competition
is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of excuses for another
boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone stepped up his/her game
plan two notches. By the time we got home, the team was really psyched and
our subsequent results showed it..
We had the same response this year. About half of the crew had been with us
the year before, there were a couple of "greenies" and 2 folks from other
boats - one Frers and one not. I now have one really pumped up crew. We
have a dozen people wanting to come along and that's without bringing in
"special players". (Matt - you're a regular now, not a ringer!).
This event is my single biggest crew builder. People love the venue - and
the word gets out about that. They love the intense racing and the
opportunity to race against really good sailors in the same boats. We had
the same finish at Nationals last year as the year before - we beat one
boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other events, it's
priceless.
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", stop worrying. This is the best
way to get better. These three days are worth a whole season of PHRF -
maybe more. Besides, we have our own little race at the back of the fleet
that's as intense as the group at the front.
This event requires more logistics than most, that's true. But don't you
owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up with the "other" guys? When
else does the LIS group get to tangle with the MA group?
To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on a transport schedule,
we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep each other awake
overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - we'll race you to
Zelda's!
I hope to see may of you out there this year!
Art
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Well said Art. Eclipse did our =
first Nationals
back in the late 80’s when it used to be the Newport NOOD regatta. =
We
didn’t have a “firm grasp” on how to use the spinnaker =
yet. I
remember Barry Caroll yelling at us to put on our boom vang going =
downwind (he
was on another boat). Needless to say it was baptism by =
fire!
Racing one design is great since =
you can
throw the stop watch away. But more importantly, it’s great to see =
all
the regulars each year; and meet the new owners. We have a very special =
group
of people and boats. A boat that was designed in the mid 80’s is =
still a
hell of a lot of fun to sail today. We’ve been called “the =
blue
collar one design class” by some – I kind of like =
that!
Some people have expressed an =
interest of
a non-spinnaker class. If enough of you want to do that, I’ll ask =
the
Race Committee if they can accommodate us. Just let me know. It could =
also be a
cruising rendezvous for boats that would like to meet the other owners. =
This
could feed into our annual class meeting and a group =
dinner.
For those of you that would like to =
come
but don’t have enough crew, please let me know. I will help =
facilitate
with other boats that may have too many. Or maybe you’d like to =
jump on
with another boat to experience the regatta. Let me know as =
well.
If you’re thinking about =
going,
lodging does fill up quickly. I have some contacts in Newport if you need assistance. =
It’s
more fun with more boats! Please consider joining =
us!
From:
frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 21, =
2006
10:45 PM To: =
frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: =
[frers-list]Frers 33 2006
Nationals - Are you coming?
I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's =
query
about who is coming to Newport
this year. If you are on the fence, let me give you my =
perspective.
We have only participated twice now, because we've =
only had
the boat 3 seasons. I went up there the first year with a green =
crew and
no expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple =
of
people form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a
blast! We even beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the =
crew
was amazing.
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at =
times and
the competition is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of =
excuses
for another boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone =
stepped
up his/her game plan two notches. By the time we got home, the =
team was
really psyched and our subsequent results showed =
it..
We had the same response this year. About half =
of the
crew had been with us the year before, there were a couple of
"greenies" and 2 folks from other boats - one Frers and one
not. I now have one really pumped up crew. We have a dozen =
people
wanting to come along and that's without bringing in "special
players". (Matt - you're a regular now, not a ringer!). =
This event is my single biggest crew builder. =
People
love the venue - and the word gets out about that. They love the =
intense
racing and the opportunity to race against really good sailors in the =
same
boats. We had the same finish at Nationals last year as the year =
before -
we beat one boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other =
events,
it's priceless.
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", =
stop
worrying. This is the best way to get better. These three =
days are
worth a whole season of PHRF - maybe more. Besides, we have our =
own
little race at the back of the fleet that's as intense as the group at =
the
front.
This event requires more logistics than most, that's
true. But don't you owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up =
with
the "other" guys? When else does the LIS group get to =
tangle
with the MA group?
To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on a
transport schedule, we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep =
each
other awake overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - =
we'll
race you to Zelda's!
I hope to see may of you out there this =
year!
Art
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Mar 22 14:19:38 2006
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Albert, Francis X CIV SEA 01)
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:19:38 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
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If anyone is looking for crew I may be available for this.
=20
Frank Albert
Any position=20
5' 10 " 181 LBS
=20
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 22:45
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
=20
I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's query about who is =
coming to Newport this year. If you are on the fence, let me give you =
my perspective.
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We have only participated twice now, because we've only had the boat 3 =
seasons. I went up there the first year with a green crew and no =
expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple of =
people form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a blast! =
We even beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the crew was amazing. =
=20
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At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at times and the =
competition is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of =
excuses for another boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone =
stepped up his/her game plan two notches. By the time we got home, the =
team was really psyched and our subsequent results showed it..
=20
We had the same response this year. About half of the crew had been =
with us the year before, there were a couple of "greenies" and 2 folks =
from other boats - one Frers and one not. I now have one really pumped =
up crew. We have a dozen people wanting to come along and that's =
without bringing in "special players". (Matt - you're a regular now, =
not a ringer!). =20
=20
This event is my single biggest crew builder. People love the venue - =
and the word gets out about that. They love the intense racing and the =
opportunity to race against really good sailors in the same boats. We =
had the same finish at Nationals last year as the year before - we beat =
one boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other events, =
it's priceless.
=20
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", stop worrying. This is the =
best way to get better. These three days are worth a whole season of =
PHRF - maybe more. Besides, we have our own little race at the back of =
the fleet that's as intense as the group at the front.
=20
This event requires more logistics than most, that's true. But don't =
you owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up with the "other" guys? =
When else does the LIS group get to tangle with the MA group?
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To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on a transport =
schedule, we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep each other =
awake overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - we'll race =
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Art
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frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]On
Behalf Of Arthur Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 21, =
2006
22:45 To: =
frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: =
[frers-list]Frers 33 2006
Nationals - Are you coming?
I didn't see a lot of positive =
responses
to Kurt's query about who is coming to Newport this year. If you =
are on
the fence, let me give you my perspective.<=
/p>
<=
/p>
We have only participated twice =
now,
because we've only had the boat 3 seasons. I went up there the =
first year
with a green crew and no expectations of doing well. I got lucky =
and
picked up a couple of people form other Frers 33's to supplement my =
regulars.
We had a blast! We even beat one boat overall. The =
turnaround in
the crew was amazing. <=
/p>
<=
/p>
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to =
get a
bit lazy at times and the competition is just not as intense since you =
can make
all kinds of excuses for another boat beating you. In this =
one-design
event everyone stepped up his/her game plan two notches. By the =
time we
got home, the team was really psyched and our subsequent results showed =
it..<=
/p>
<=
/p>
We had the same response this =
year.
About half of the crew had been with us the year before, there were a =
couple of
"greenies" and 2 folks from other boats - one Frers and one
not. I now have one really pumped up crew. We have a dozen =
people
wanting to come along and that's without bringing in "special
players". (Matt - you're a regular now, not a ringer!). =
<=
/p>
<=
/p>
This event is my single biggest =
crew
builder. People love the venue - and the word gets out about =
that.
They love the intense racing and the opportunity to race against really =
good
sailors in the same boats. We had the same finish at Nationals =
last year
as the year before - we beat one boat, but when you look at the progress =
we've
made in other events, it's priceless.<=
/p>
<=
/p>
If you're thinking "we're not =
good
enough", stop worrying. This is the best way to get =
better.
These three days are worth a whole season of PHRF - maybe more. =
Besides,
we have our own little race at the back of the fleet that's as intense =
as the
group at the front.
<=
/p>
This event requires more logistics =
than
most, that's true. But don't you owe it to your crew and yourself =
to mix
it up with the "other" guys? When else does the LIS =
group get
to tangle with the MA group?<=
/p>
<=
/p>
To the LIS group I'll offer that =
if we
can agree on a transport schedule, we'll happily travel flotilla style =
so we
can keep each other awake overnight via radio. To the MA teams =
I'll just
say - we'll race you to Zelda's!<=
/p>
<=
/p>
I hope to see may of you out there =
this
year!
Art<=
/p>
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From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Dave Nauber)
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:08:21 -0500
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
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This was well said Art. For my part, Kathy and I were excited when Kurt
revived the class in 2001 by, among other things, re-establishing the
Nationals in Newport.
I saw it as an opportunity to test ourselves in a one-design setting. The
fact is that if you have a Frers 33 and race it, most/all of your racing is
PHRF. The vagaries of handicap racing make it impossible to know if you are
really making the boat go as fast as it can or should. One-design racing is
great, but the relatively small number of Frers 33s built and the distance
between them all make regular one-design events difficult to arrange.
The Nationals give us a (somewhat) central place for most of the Frers
owners to meet and the venue is one of the best anywhere. It is a beautiful,
historic place and there is always wind. Equally important, the Sail Newport
organization runs a true first class regatta. You simply will not have more
well-run racing anywhere-period! Added to what Art has said about the
benefits to crew enthusiasm, growth and morale, all of these things make the
Nationals a must-attend event for any Frers 33 owners who race their boats.
If you haven't made the trip before, think seriously about adding it to your
schedule. Regardless of your current level of racing experience, doing the
Nationals in Newport is fun both on the water and ashore. As the focal point
of our season, it has helped us develop a better sailing program than would
have been possible otherwise and has provided some of our best sailing
memories.
Dave Nauber
Wolverine
_____
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley
Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2006 10:45 PM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 2006 Nationals - Are you coming?
I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's query about who is coming
to Newport this year. If you are on the fence, let me give you my
perspective.
We have only participated twice now, because we've only had the boat 3
seasons. I went up there the first year with a green crew and no
expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple of people
form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a blast! We even
beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the crew was amazing.
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at times and the competition
is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of excuses for another
boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone stepped up his/her game
plan two notches. By the time we got home, the team was really psyched and
our subsequent results showed it..
We had the same response this year. About half of the crew had been with us
the year before, there were a couple of "greenies" and 2 folks from other
boats - one Frers and one not. I now have one really pumped up crew. We
have a dozen people wanting to come along and that's without bringing in
"special players". (Matt - you're a regular now, not a ringer!).
This event is my single biggest crew builder. People love the venue - and
the word gets out about that. They love the intense racing and the
opportunity to race against really good sailors in the same boats. We had
the same finish at Nationals last year as the year before - we beat one
boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other events, it's
priceless.
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", stop worrying. This is the best
way to get better. These three days are worth a whole season of PHRF -
maybe more. Besides, we have our own little race at the back of the fleet
that's as intense as the group at the front.
This event requires more logistics than most, that's true. But don't you
owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up with the "other" guys? When
else does the LIS group get to tangle with the MA group?
To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on a transport schedule,
we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep each other awake
overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - we'll race you to
Zelda's!
I hope to see may of you out there this year!
Art
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This was well said Art. For my =
part, Kathy
and I were excited when Kurt revived the class in 2001 by, among other =
things, re-establishing
the Nationals in Newport.
I saw it as an opportunity to test =
ourselves
in a one-design setting. The fact is that if you have a Frers 33 and =
race it, most/all
of your racing is PHRF. The vagaries of handicap racing make it =
impossible to
know if you are really making the boat go as fast as it can or should. =
One-design
racing is great, but the relatively small number of Frers 33s built and =
the distance
between them all make regular one-design events difficult to arrange. =
The Nationals give us a (somewhat) =
central
place for most of the Frers owners to meet and the venue is one of the =
best
anywhere. It is a beautiful, historic place and there is always wind. =
Equally
important, the Sail Newport organization runs a true first class =
regatta. You
simply will not have more well-run racing anywhere—period! Added =
to what
Art has said about the benefits to crew enthusiasm, growth and morale, =
all of
these things make the Nationals a must-attend event for any Frers 33 =
owners who
race their boats.
If you haven’t made the trip =
before,
think seriously about adding it to your schedule. Regardless of your =
current
level of racing experience, doing the Nationals in Newport is fun both on the water and =
ashore. As
the focal point of our season, it has helped us develop a better sailing
program than would have been possible otherwise and has provided some of =
our
best sailing memories.
Dave
Nauber
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From:
frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley Sent: Tuesday, March 21, =
2006
10:45 PM To:frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: =
[frers-list]Frers 33 2006
Nationals - Are you coming?
I didn't see a lot of positive responses to Kurt's =
query
about who is coming to Newport
this year. If you are on the fence, let me give you my =
perspective.
We have only participated twice now, because we've =
only had
the boat 3 seasons. I went up there the first year with a green =
crew and
no expectations of doing well. I got lucky and picked up a couple =
of
people form other Frers 33's to supplement my regulars. We had a
blast! We even beat one boat overall. The turnaround in the =
crew was
amazing.
At home sailing PHRF, we tend to get a bit lazy at =
times and
the competition is just not as intense since you can make all kinds of =
excuses
for another boat beating you. In this one-design event everyone =
stepped
up his/her game plan two notches. By the time we got home, the =
team was
really psyched and our subsequent results showed =
it..
We had the same response this year. About half =
of the
crew had been with us the year before, there were a couple of
"greenies" and 2 folks from other boats - one Frers and one
not. I now have one really pumped up crew. We have a dozen =
people
wanting to come along and that's without bringing in "special
players". (Matt - you're a regular now, not a ringer!). =
This event is my single biggest crew builder. =
People
love the venue - and the word gets out about that. They love the =
intense
racing and the opportunity to race against really good sailors in the =
same
boats. We had the same finish at Nationals last year as the year =
before -
we beat one boat, but when you look at the progress we've made in other =
events,
it's priceless.
If you're thinking "we're not good enough", =
stop
worrying. This is the best way to get better. These three =
days are
worth a whole season of PHRF - maybe more. Besides, we have our =
own
little race at the back of the fleet that's as intense as the group at =
the
front.
This event requires more logistics than most, that's
true. But don't you owe it to your crew and yourself to mix it up =
with
the "other" guys? When else does the LIS group get to =
tangle
with the MA group?
To the LIS group I'll offer that if we can agree on a
transport schedule, we'll happily travel flotilla style so we can keep =
each
other awake overnight via radio. To the MA teams I'll just say - =
we'll
race you to Zelda's!