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hello,
have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking the jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees. i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or solutions?
respectfully,
greg zercoe - where egos dare
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hello,
have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking the jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees. i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or solutions?
respectfully,
greg zercoe - where egos dare
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Fri Jun 1 17:40:31 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Bob A.)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:40:31 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]starboard side over-rides
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Had the same problem on Windswept. I fabricated/installed a =
wedge-shaped oak winch pad.
Cured the problem right away. If I recall, it raised the fwd facing =
base about 3/4 inch.
I think you're on the right track. Good luck.
=20
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Had the same problem particularly after installing Anderson 46 ST. I measured the angles from photos that I took of the line angles and found they were almost flat. Anderson recommends a 3-8 degree entry window so I'm in the process of installing canted pads myself.
Frank Wittosch
Pepperke 2
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> hello,
>
> have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking the
> jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the
> winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i
> believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased
> a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees.
> i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or
> solutions?
>
> respectfully,
>
> greg zercoe - where egos dare
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hello,
>
>
have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking
> the jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the
> winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i
> believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased
> a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees.
> i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or
> solutions?
>
>
respectfully,
>
>
greg zercoe - where egos dare
>
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> Had the same problem on Windswept. I fabricated/installed a =
> wedge-shaped oak winch pad.
> Cured the problem right away. If I recall, it raised the fwd facing =
> base about 3/4 inch.
>
> I think you're on the right track. Good luck.
> =20
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> recall, it raised the fwd facing base about 3/4 inch.
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>
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Had the same problem particularly after installing Anderson 46 ST. I measured the angles from photos that I took of the line angles and found they were almost flat. Anderson recommends a 3-8 degree entry window so I'm in the process of installing canted pads myself.
Frank Wittosch
Pepperke 2
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> hello,
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> have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking the
> jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the
> winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i
> believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased
> a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees.
> i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or
> solutions?
>
> resp
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>
> greg zercoe - where egos dare
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hello,
>
>
have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking
> the jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the
> winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i
> believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased
> a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees.
> i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or
> solutions?
>
>
respectfully,
>
>
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>
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> Had the same problem on Windswept. I fabricated/installed a =
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> Cured the problem right away. If I recall, it raised the fwd facing =
> base about 3/4 inch.
>
> I think you're on the right track. Good luck.
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Had the same problem on =
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> fabricated/installed a wedge-shaped oak winch pad.
>
Cured the problem right =
> away. If I=20
> recall, it raised the fwd facing base about 3/4 inch.
>
>
I think you're on the right =
> track. Good=20
> luck.
>
> size=3D2>
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jun 3 05:06:05 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley)
Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2007 00:06:05 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]starboard side over-rides
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We were advised by another owner to simply run a shock cord from the lower cam cleat at the aft end of the cabintop across to the base of the stanchion. This reduces the "bounce" in the line as it leads from the fairlead. This simple change has virtually eliminated over-rides. We us it on both sides.
Art
"Brilliant"
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hello,
have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking the jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on the winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack. i believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just purchased a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about 3-4 degrees. i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar experience or solutions?
respectfully,
greg zercoe - where egos dare
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We were advised by another owner to simply run a
shock cord from the lower cam cleat at the aft end of the cabintop across to the
base of the stanchion. This reduces the "bounce" in the line as it leads
from the fairlead. This simple change has virtually eliminated
over-rides. We us it on both sides.
Art
"Brilliant"
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over-rides
hello,
have any frers33 owners experienced a larger number of over-rides tacking
the jib to starboard side? we have always had to have only a single wrap on
the winch on this side tacking the head sail, which noticeably slows the tack.
i believe that the winch angle needs to be straightened up and have just
purchased a canted winch pad to test me theory. the pad had an angle of about
3-4 degrees. i think that the canting angle should be even larger. any similar
experience or solutions?
respectfully,
greg zercoe - where egos dare
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jun 3 19:11:46 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Jeffrey Armstrong)
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2007 14:11:46 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Rudder replacement
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water level. Worried about what we can't see.
Jef Armstrong
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jun 5 03:35:50 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley)
Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:35:50 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]URGENT: Newport Regatta
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Folks,
We are at risk of not getting a quorum for our National Champs regatta in Newport this year. So far the only boats committed are:
Wildthing
Wolverine
Brilliant
Nunnehi.(xWindswept)
(the "W's have it!)
We need 2 more boats ASAP. If you are even a MAYBE, please respond to the list immediately, or call my cell at 516-769-3114 Tuesday. Folks need to change or cancel housing reservations in the event we won't make it.
The Sail Newport Regatta (http://208.106.141.167/npt/m/_general/06newporthome.asp) is July 13-15. If you need help with housing, Sail Newport offers a free service to help you locate just the right accommodations for you and your crew.
If you need crew, I know of at least three competent folks in the Newport area who might be available, as well as the crew of Eclipse - right Kurt?? So shout if you need crew and we'll help, but commit your boats now! It is the best crew-building event of the season. I can't tell you how it energized my crew the first year - and every year thereafter. Your crew will come back so much better than when they arrived, you won't believe it. Mix some vets from other boats into your new program, and watch the team explode!!
Anyway,.call today, and we'll throw in this beautiful set of Ginsu winch handles.....
Regards,
Art
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Folks,
We are at risk of not getting a quorum for our
National Champs regatta in Newport this year. So far the only boats
committed are:
Wildthing
Wolverine
Brilliant
Nunnehi.(xWindswept)
(the "W's have it!)
We need 2 more boats ASAP. If you are even a
MAYBE, please respond to the list immediately, or call my cell at 516-769-3114
Tuesday. Folks need to change or cancel housing reservations in the event
we won't make it.
If you need crew, I know of at least three competent folks in the Newport
area who might be available, as well as the crew of Eclipse - right Kurt??
So shout if you need crew and we'll help, but commit your boats now! It is
the best crew-building event of the season. I can't tell you how it
energized my crew the first year - and every year thereafter. Your crew
will come back so much better than when they arrived, you won't believe
it. Mix some vets from other boats into your new program, and watch
the team explode!!
Anyway,.call today, and we'll throw in this beautiful set of Ginsu winch
handles.....
Regards,
Art
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Jun 13 13:19:49 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Joyce Oberdorf)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 08:19:49 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Water heater
Message-ID:
Has anyone replaced their water heater? Mine has malfunctioned and I
cannot find a similar one. Any thoughts?
Joyce Oberdorf/CHECKMATE
From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Jun 13 21:10:00 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (frers-list@lists.frers33.com)
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:10:00 -0700
Subject: [frers-list]Water heater
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Joyce,
Do you have a Gas Systems Inc. Rinnai unit?
Jonathan
---- Joyce Oberdorf wrote:
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sat Jun 16 21:11:46 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Bob A.)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:11:46 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Fw: History of the America's Cup Races 1851 - 2007
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> History of the America's Cup Races 1851 - 2007
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> > From: "Jobson Sailing"
> >> This one hour program will air on ESPN Classic on Saturday,
> >> June 16 at 11:00am and again on Friday, June 22 at 11:00pm et.
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jun 17 18:43:25 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Rich Peirce)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 13:43:25 -0400
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
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I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in
the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and
the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard
side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
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I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jun 17 18:49:51 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:49:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
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Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
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Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
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Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
good to know thanks. On the shrouds do you know what you typically set them at and what the rod sizes are (need to get a tension guage)
Thanks
Rich
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <
rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To:
frers-list@lists.frers33.comSent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
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From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:18:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
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Rich,
The tension gauge for rod rigging is extreemly expensive in the $350 to $400 range. Wire rigging tension gauges are a lot less but won't work with rod. Esentially you tighten up the rig so that in about 15 knots of wind going to windward the leeward shrouds are not flapping around. When you reach that point you're done. Don't know the rod size I knew it but forgot. Where do you keep the boat?
FXA
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:53:49 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
good to know thanks. On the shrouds do you know what you typically set them at and what the rod sizes are (need to get a tension guage)
Thanks
Rich
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce < rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
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Rich,
The tension gauge for rod rigging is extreemly expensive in the $350 to $400 range. Wire rigging tension gauges are a lot less but won't work with rod. Esentially you tighten up the rig so that in about 15 knots of wind going to windward the leeward shrouds are not flapping around. When you reach that point you're done. Don't know the rod size I knew it but forgot. Where do you keep the boat?
FXA
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:53:49 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
good to know thanks. On the shrouds do you know what you typically set them at and what the rod sizes are (need to get a tension guage)
Thanks
Rich
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <
rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To:
frers-list@lists.frers33.comSent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
Rich,
The tension gauge for rod rigging is extreemly expensive in the $350 to $400 range. Wire rigging tension gauges are a lot less but won't work with rod. Esentially you tighten up the rig so that in about 15 knots of wind going to windward the leeward shrouds are not flapping around. When you reach that point you're done. Don't know the rod size I knew it but forgot. Where do you keep the boat?
FXA
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <
rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:53:49 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
good to know thanks. On the shrouds do you know what you typically set them at and what the rod sizes are (need to get a tension guage)
Thanks
Rich
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net
> wrote:
Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <
rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To:
frers-list@lists.frers33.comSent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
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From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jun 17 22:43:59 2007
From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT)
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:43:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
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Well I won't be racing against you.
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:21:03 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm in Hull, MA just outside of boston
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
Rich,
The tension gauge for rod rigging is extreemly expensive in the $350 to $400 range. Wire rigging tension gauges are a lot less but won't work with rod. Esentially you tighten up the rig so that in about 15 knots of wind going to windward the leeward shrouds are not flapping around. When you reach that point you're done. Don't know the rod size I knew it but forgot. Where do you keep the boat?
FXA
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce < rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:53:49 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
good to know thanks. On the shrouds do you know what you typically set them at and what the rod sizes are (need to get a tension guage)
Thanks
Rich
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce < rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"
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Well I won't be racing against you.
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 2:21:03 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm in Hull, MA just outside of boston
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
Rich,
The tension gauge for rod rigging is extreemly expensive in the $350 to $400 range. Wire rigging tension gauges are a lot less but won't work with rod. Esentially you tighten up the rig so that in about 15 knots of wind going to windward the leeward shrouds are not flapping around. When you reach that point you're done. Don't know the rod size I knew it but forgot. Where do you keep the boat?
FXA
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce < rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:53:49 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Position
good to know thanks. On the shrouds do you know what you typically set them at and what the rod sizes are (need to get a tension guage)
Thanks
Rich
On 6/17/07, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net > wrote:
Rich,
My step plate is I guess all the way back. The trailing edge of the step plate is right at the edge of the step up into the forward area. My mast is fairly equal side to side but nearly touching the forward edge of the deck opening. It took some doing to get the mast that far forward at the deck but it has provided very good performance with minimal pre-bend. Upwind the boat is hard to beat and off the wind we can hold our own against most of the fleet except for a Frers 36 and a C&C 40 that seem to be unstopable.
Cheers,
Frank Albert
RELENTLESS 41621
----- Original Message ----
From: Rich Peirce <
rich.peirce@gmail.com>
To:
frers-list@lists.frers33.comSent: Sunday, June 17, 2007 1:43:25 PM
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Position
I'm looking for some advice on the mast position, both at the step and in the deck opening. My mast currently has the step plate all the way back and the mast has 3/4 of the opening on the port side and 1/4 on the starboard side. But is perfectly straight.
Thanks
Rich
"Moose"