From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Nov 3 03:41:47 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 22:41:47 -0500 Subject: [frers-list]Re: Frers 33 Sails Wanted In-Reply-To: <47A3B3428327401D9056FBE5BA6A0777@CMSS> References: <47A3B3428327401D9056FBE5BA6A0777@CMSS> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_anyJoY+/jf/G4M5yphjb8A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT See request below from potential Frers 33 buyer... Art ----- Original Message ----- From: rod stright To: akelley@optonline.net Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:30 PM Subject: Frers 33 Sails Wanted Looking to acquire a Frers 33 but need a sail inventory to get started. Anyone with relatively good used racing sails please let me know. Interested in #1, #3 spinnaker (runner) and main in that order. Rod Stright 902-444-0016 902-209-0829(C) --Boundary_(ID_anyJoY+/jf/G4M5yphjb8A) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
See request below from potential Frers 33 buyer...
 
Art
----- Original Message -----
From: rod stright
To: akelley@optonline.net
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 7:30 PM
Subject: Frers 33 Sails Wanted

Looking to acquire a Frers 33 but need a sail inventory to get started.  Anyone with relatively good used racing sails please let me know.  Interested in #1, #3 spinnaker (runner) and main in that order.
 
 
Rod Stright
902-444-0016
902-209-0829(C)
--Boundary_(ID_anyJoY+/jf/G4M5yphjb8A)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Nov 3 04:01:03 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:01:03 -0500 Subject: [frers-list]Updates Message-ID: <431D84BD2DCC4D3BBA165D531A5A93D9@ArtXPS420> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_cE74GtQw0iiqB8xYc0vEaA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT My apologies for my extended silence. I've recently changed jobs, and during the same time frame had a miserable computer crash. Everything is recovered, I have access to edit the site again, and life is beginning to return to a bit more normalcy. I believe I have caught up with the changes to the For Sale section. Will dig back through emails for anything else soon. If I've missed something, please send me a reminder. Also please let Dave N and I know about any boats changing hands. Thanks, Art --Boundary_(ID_cE74GtQw0iiqB8xYc0vEaA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
My apologies for my extended silence.  I've recently changed jobs, and during the same time frame had a miserable computer crash.  Everything is recovered, I have access to edit the site again, and life is beginning to return to a bit more normalcy. 
 
I believe I have caught up with the changes to the For Sale section.  Will dig back through emails for anything else soon.  If I've missed something, please send me a reminder.  Also please let Dave N and I know about any boats changing hands.
 
Thanks,
Art
--Boundary_(ID_cE74GtQw0iiqB8xYc0vEaA)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Nov 3 12:59:25 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (rod stright) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 08:59:25 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Used Sail Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_dflNPmBB2UMwXzLCLrnBog) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Kurt. Do you still have the used sails? Rod Stright 902-444-0016 902-209-0829(C) --Boundary_(ID_dflNPmBB2UMwXzLCLrnBog) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Kurt.
 
Do you still have the used sails?
 
Rod Stright
902-444-0016
902-209-0829(C)
--Boundary_(ID_dflNPmBB2UMwXzLCLrnBog)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sat Nov 8 11:43:23 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (rod stright) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2008 07:43:23 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory Message-ID: <0007CBF9AB974C26A1233A8200C7E6EF@CMSS> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_2Vfi8Dq2KAdX45njhRvNTA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Looking at acquiring a Frers 33 for PHRF racing. Interested to know what sail inventory you racers recommend particularly in terms of headsails and spinnakers. Thanks RNS --Boundary_(ID_2Vfi8Dq2KAdX45njhRvNTA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Looking at acquiring a Frers 33 for PHRF racing.  Interested to know what sail inventory you racers recommend particularly in terms of headsails and spinnakers.
 
Thanks
RNS
 
--Boundary_(ID_2Vfi8Dq2KAdX45njhRvNTA)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sat Nov 8 14:24:13 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (David Nauber) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 06:24:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory In-Reply-To: <0007CBF9AB974C26A1233A8200C7E6EF@CMSS> Message-ID: <142134.37633.qm@web59516.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --0-1952284537-1226154253=:37633 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rod, =A0 On Long Island Sound, I carry three headsails (North 3DL) including a Light= /Medium 155% #1, a 145% #2 (almost like a heavy #1) and a 100% #3. The #2 i= s used in the 16-18kts True range, but can go higher/lower depending on the= conditions and crew weight. =A0 We usually have two North spinnakers aboard, both AP runners. One is a .75o= z for heavy air and tight reaches with True wind of 16+kts, especially if i= t's puffy or waves are likley to cause the occasional popping of the chute = as it re-fills. The chute we use most of the time is either a 0.5oz or a 0.= 6oz (the newer is the 0.6 and we use that in the more important races).=20 =A0 Some people do not carry a #2 and just go from a heavy #1 to their #3. sinc= e I can carry the L/M #1 to 15kts True, I don't have a normal heavy #1 and = I find the 145% #2 is a perfect size for that middle range just above 15.= =20 =A0 Sometimes staying with a heavy #1 and reefing the main works well in the mi= ddle range also, so if you are building an inventory I would focus on getti= ng the #1 and 0.5/0.6oz sorted first and add the #2 last. =A0 I'd also be interested to hear what others have found works for them.=20 =A0 Regards, =A0 Dave Nauber Wolverine --- On Sat, 11/8/08, rod stright wrote: From: rod stright Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 6:43 AM Looking at acquiring a Frers 33 for PHRF racing.=A0 Interested to know what= sail inventory you racers recommend particularly in terms of headsails and= spinnakers. =A0 Thanks RNS =A0=0A=0A=0A --0-1952284537-1226154253=:37633 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi Rod,
 
On Long Island Sound, I carry three headsails (North 3DL) including a Light/Medium 155% #1, a 145% #2 (almost like a heavy #1) and a 100% #3. The #2 is used in the 16-18kts True range, but can go higher/lower depending on the conditions and crew weight.
 
We usually have two North spinnakers aboard, both AP runners. One is a .75oz for heavy air and tight reaches with True wind of 16+kts, especially if it's puffy or waves are likley to cause the occasional popping of the chute as it re-fills. The chute we use most of the time is either a 0.5oz or a 0.6oz (the newer is the 0.6 and we use that in the more important races).
 
Some people do not carry a #2 and just go from a heavy #1 to their #3. since I can carry the L/M #1 to 15kts True, I don't have a normal heavy #1 and I find the 145% #2 is a perfect size for that middle range just above 15.
 
Sometimes staying with a heavy #1 and reefing the main works well in the middle range also, so if you are building an inventory I would focus on getting the #1 and 0.5/0.6oz sorted first and add the #2 last.
 
I'd also be interested to hear what others have found works for them.
 
Regards,
 
Dave Nauber
Wolverine

--- On Sat, 11/8/08, rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca> wrote:
From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 6:43 AM

Looking at acquiring a Frers 33 for PHRF racing.  Interested to know what sail inventory you racers recommend particularly in terms of headsails and spinnakers.
 
Thanks
RNS
 

--0-1952284537-1226154253=:37633-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Nov 9 12:53:12 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 04:53:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory In-Reply-To: <0007CBF9AB974C26A1233A8200C7E6EF@CMSS> Message-ID: <300416.31675.qm@web81101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-594431079-1226235192=:31675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rod, =A0 The 33 is a fairly tender boat so in winds up to about 11 or 13 knots I go = with a 155% genoa.=A0=A0In 11 to 19 knots=A0I use a 140% genoa=A0and the on= e I have is a very well cut sail so it drives us well even in the lower win= ds of 11 to 13 knots.=A0 In the stronger winds it drives us very well and h= elps to keep the boat flater.=A0 For the really heavy stuff of 20 knots and= over I use a little 95% jib with battens.=A0=A0 For the spinnaker=A0I use = a .6 Airx all purpose which drives us very well.=A0=A0 =A0 Good luck. =A0 Frank Albert=A0 --- On Sat, 11/8/08, rod stright wrote: From: rod stright Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 6:43 AM Looking at acquiring a Frers 33 for PHRF racing.=A0 Interested to know what= sail inventory you racers recommend particularly in terms of headsails and= spinnakers. =A0 Thanks RNS =A0 --0-594431079-1226235192=:31675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Rod,
 
The 33 is a fairly tender boat so in winds up to about 11 or 13 knots I go with a 155% genoa.  In 11 to 19 knots I use a 140% genoa and the one I have is a very well cut sail so it drives us well even in the lower winds of 11 to 13 knots.  In the stronger winds it drives us very well and helps to keep the boat flater.  For the really heavy stuff of 20 knots and over I use a little 95% jib with battens.   For the spinnaker I use a .6 Airx all purpose which drives us very well.  
 
Good luck.
 
Frank Albert 

--- On Sat, 11/8/08, rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca> wrote:
From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sail Inventory
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Saturday, November 8, 2008, 6:43 AM

Looking at acquiring a Frers 33 for PHRF racing.  Interested to know what sail inventory you racers recommend particularly in terms of headsails and spinnakers.
 
Thanks
RNS
 
--0-594431079-1226235192=:31675-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Nov 9 22:44:47 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (frers-list@lists.frers33.com) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 22:44:47 +0000 Subject: [frers-list]Sails Message-ID: <1514418982-1226270717-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-284566986-@bxe260.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I have a light #1 a heavy #1 a #2 and #3. I agree with prior statement regarding utility of a #2. We sail with light crews usually and my best races have happened when we put up the #2. Its a niche sail but invaluable. But much depends on where you sail. There is a big difference between western LISound and up by Westbrook or Newport Good luck Joyce oberdorf Checkmate Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Nov 20 13:15:58 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Carl Gish) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 05:15:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [frers-list]Advice/tips on rudder bearing replacement Message-ID: <594267.9166.qm@web38201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1472730523-1227186958=:9166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips on replacing a rudder bearing= ? I have got some slop in the bearing and it appears as if there may also b= e play between the sleeve and the rudder. I'm planning on dropping the rudd= er next weekend and before I take on the project, was wondering whether any= one had taken on the project before and had any learning I could benefit fr= om.=0A=0AThanks=0A=A0=0ACarl Gish - Pressure Drop --0-1472730523-1227186958=:9166 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
I was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips on replacing a rudder bearing? I have got some slop in the bearing and it appears as if there may also be play between the sleeve and the rudder. I'm planning on dropping the rudder next weekend and before I take on the project, was wondering whether anyone had taken on the project before and had any learning I could benefit from.
 
Thanks
 
Carl Gish - Pressure Drop
--0-1472730523-1227186958=:9166-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Nov 20 14:34:07 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:34:07 -0500 Subject: [frers-list]Advice/tips on rudder bearing replacement Message-ID: <20081120143407.CKZM22183.atlmtaow03.cingularme.com@Inbox> --_B345659D-7007-4F22-E6DD-05F099B29276_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I want to encourage replies so we gather more experiences, but Carl, also c= heck the FAQ on the web site. There are two sets of experiences posted. Art =0A= =0A= -----Original Message-----=0A= From: Carl Gish Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 8:15 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Advice/tips on rudder bearing replacement I was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips on replacing a rudder bearing= ? I have got some slop in the bearing and it appears as if there may also b= e play between the sleeve and the rudder. I'm planning on dropping the rudd= er next weekend and before I take on the project, was wondering whether any= one had taken on the project before and had any learning I could benefit fr= om. =A0 Thanks =A0 Carl Gish - Pressure Drop= --_B345659D-7007-4F22-E6DD-05F099B29276_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" = I want to encourage replies so we gather more experiences, but Carl, also c= heck the FAQ on the web site. There are two sets of experiences posted. Art=


From: Carl Gish <carlgish@yahoo.com>
Sent: T= hursday, November 20, 2008 8:15 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
[frers-list]Advice/tips on rudder bearing replacement<= br>
I was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips on rep= lacing a rudder bearing? I have got some slop in the bearing and it appears= as if there may also be play between the sleeve and the rudder. I'm planni= ng on dropping the rudder next weekend and before I take on the project, wa= s wondering whether anyone had taken on the project before and had any lear= ning I could benefit from.
 
Thanks
&nbs= p;
Carl Gish - Pressure Drop
= --_B345659D-7007-4F22-E6DD-05F099B29276_-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sat Nov 22 16:36:02 2008 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Joyce Oberdorf) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2008 11:36:02 -0500 Subject: [frers-list]Advice/tips on rudder bearing replacement In-Reply-To: <594267.9166.qm@web38201.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --Boundary_(ID_o1bdPVuD5lZny00bTElcvA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable I=B9vehad this done twice=8B but by the boatyard, sorry. I just know that if it gets worse, one day you=B9ll be heading out the channel and see a lot of water coming in and go down below to see the rudder very efficiently pumpin= g water into the boat and not only not race that day, but have to have your boat immediately hauled. Spoken from experience, Joyce On 11/20/08 8:15 AM, "Carl Gish" wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips on replacing a rudder beari= ng? I > have got some slop in the bearing and it appears as if there may also be = play > between the sleeve and the rudder. I'm planning on dropping the rudder ne= xt > weekend and before I take on the project, was wondering whether anyone ha= d > taken on the project before and had any learning I could benefit from. > =20 > Thanks > =20 > Carl Gish - Pressure Drop >=20 --Boundary_(ID_o1bdPVuD5lZny00bTElcvA) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Re: [frers-list]Advice/tips on rudder bearing replacement I’vehad this done twice— but by the boatyard, sorry. I just know that if it gets worse,  one day you’ll be heading out the channel and see a lot of water coming in and go down below to see the rudder very efficiently pumping water into the boat and not only not race that day, but have to have your boat immediately hauled. Spoken from experience, Joyce


On 11/20/08 8:15 AM, "Carl Gish" <carlgish@yahoo.com> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips on replacing a rudder bearing? I have got some slop in the bearing and it appears as if there may also be play between the sleeve and the rudder. I'm planning on dropping the rudder next weekend and before I take on the project, was wondering whether anyone had taken on the project before and had any learning I could benefit from.
 
Thanks
 
Carl Gish - Pressure Drop


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