From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Aug 2 02:25:40 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (rod stright) Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:25:40 -0300 Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33 Message-ID: <194FDDBD44C844C1ADA6A13E8049A086@CMSS> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Guys, Hope everyone is out sailing. I am enclosing a note/request from Bill Petersen which is self explanatory. I haven't had any problems myself but perhaps someone who has could respond. Rod ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Petersen To: StrightR@eastlink.ca Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Frers 33 #12 Rod Nice tuning guide your group put together. I have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA. I am looking for some input on mast steps. Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step in bilge. Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast step. Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ? Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder out. Boat is in beautiful shape other wise. Bill Petersen Marina del Rey CA 877 262 8703 office billpmdr@gmail.com 310 694 8035 fax --Boundary_(ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Hi Guys,
 
Hope everyone is out sailing.  I am enclosing a note/request from Bill Petersen which is self explanatory.  I haven't had any problems myself but perhaps someone who has could respond.
 
Rod
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: Frers 33 #12

Rod
Nice tuning guide your group put together.  I have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.  I am looking for some input on mast steps.  Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step in bilge.  Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast step.  Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?  Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder out.  Boat is in beautiful shape other wise.
 
Bill Petersen
Marina del Rey CA
877 262 8703 office
billpmdr@gmail.com
310 694 8035 fax
 
--Boundary_(ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Aug 2 03:58:13 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT) Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33 Message-ID: <824590.92591.qm@web81108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1695020924-1249181893=:92591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.=A0 What needs to be don= e is to grind out the crack area and reglass it in the yard when the boat i= s hauled. =A0 The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the same area=A0that= also had to be repaired.=A0 After that I've had no additional problems.=A0= It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water getting into the bo= at things make me nervous so I had the yard do the work. =A0 Frank Albert =A0 =A0 =A0 --- On Sat, 8/1/09, rod stright wrote: From: rod stright Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33 To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Cc: "Bill Petersen" Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 9:25 PM Hi Guys, =A0 Hope everyone is out sailing.=A0 I am enclosing a note/request from Bill Pe= tersen which is self explanatory.=A0 I haven't had any problems myself but = perhaps someone who has could respond. =A0 Rod =A0 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bill Petersen=20 To: StrightR@eastlink.ca=20 Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM Subject: Frers 33 #12 Rod Nice tuning guide your group put together.=A0 I have hull #12 in Marina del= Rey CA.=A0 I am looking for some input on mast steps.=A0 Mine it seems is = compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weeping = in from port aft side of step in bilge.=A0 Surveyor says there is a high mo= isture content at the mast step.=A0 Any ideas, repairs, reason your group o= f owners may have ?=A0 Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder = out.=A0 Boat is in beautiful shape other wise. =A0 Bill Petersen Marina del Rey CA 877 262 8703 office billpmdr@gmail.com 310 694 8035 fax =A0 --0-1695020924-1249181893=:92591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.  What needs t= o be done is to grind out the crack area and reglass it in the yard when th= e boat is hauled.
 
The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the same area&n= bsp;that also had to be repaired.  After that I've had no additional p= roblems.  It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water getti= ng into the boat things make me nervous so I had the yard do the work.
 
Frank Albert
 
 
 

--- On Sat, 8/1/09, rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>= wrote:

From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.co= m
Cc: "Bill Petersen" <billpmdr@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, Augu= st 1, 2009, 9:25 PM

Hi = Guys,
 
Hope everyone is out sailing.  I am enclosing a note/request from Bill Petersen which is self explanator= y.  I haven't had any problems myself but perhaps someone who has coul= d respond.
 
Rod=
 = ;
----- Original Message -----=20
To: StrightR@eastlink.ca
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM
Subject: Frers 33 #12

Rod
Nice tuning guide your group put together.=   I have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.  I am looking for some in= put on mast steps.  Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to kee= l joint under mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step in = bilge.  Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast ste= p.  Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?  L= ike to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder out.  Boat is in be= autiful shape other wise.
 
Bill Petersen
Marina del Rey CA
877 = 262 8703 office
billpmdr@gmail.com
310 694 8035 fax
 =
--0-1695020924-1249181893=:92591-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Aug 2 09:39:41 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (rod stright) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:39:41 -0300 Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs References: <20090802050859.DC65761B18@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: Thanks Frank. I'll pass that along. Has anyone had to take out the mast step and if so what was it replaced with> Rod ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:08 AM Subject: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs > Send frers-list mailing list submissions to > frers-list@lists.frers33.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of frers-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Mast Step Frers 33 (rod stright) > 2. Re: Mast Step Frers 33 (FRANCIS ALBERT) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:25:40 -0300 > From: rod stright > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > Cc: Bill Petersen > Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33 > Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > --Boundary_(ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA) > Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > Hi Guys, > > Hope everyone is out sailing. I am enclosing a note/request from Bill > Petersen which is self explanatory. I haven't had any problems myself but > perhaps someone who has could respond. > > Rod > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bill Petersen > To: StrightR@eastlink.ca > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM > Subject: Frers 33 #12 > > > Rod > Nice tuning guide your group put together. I have hull #12 in Marina del > Rey CA. I am looking for some input on mast steps. Mine it seems is > compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weeping > in from port aft side of step in bilge. Surveyor says there is a high > moisture content at the mast step. Any ideas, repairs, reason your group > of owners may have ? Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder > out. Boat is in beautiful shape other wise. > > Bill Petersen > Marina del Rey CA > 877 262 8703 office > billpmdr@gmail.com > 310 694 8035 fax > > --Boundary_(ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA) > Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > > > > > > > > >
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Rod
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Nice tuning guide your group put > together.  I > have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.  I am looking for some input on > mast > steps.  Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to keel joint > under > mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step in bilge.  > Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast step.  Any > ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?  Like to hear > some > thoughts before I get the grinder out.  Boat is in beautiful shape > other > wise.
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Bill Petersen
Marina del Rey CA
877 262 > 8703 > office
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310 694 > 8035 fax
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I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.  What needs > t= > o be done is to grind out the crack area and reglass it in the yard when > th= > e boat is hauled.
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The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the same > area&n= > bsp;that also had to be repaired.  After that I've had no additional > p= > roblems.  It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water > getti= > ng into the boat things make me nervous so I had the yard do the > work.> >
 
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Nice tuning guide your group put > together.= >   I have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.  I am looking for some > in= > put on mast steps.  Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to > kee= > l joint under mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step in > = > bilge.  Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast > ste= > p.  Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?  > L= > ike to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder out.  Boat is in > be= > autiful shape other wise.
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> --0-1695020924-1249181893=:92591-- > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > frers-list mailing list > frers-list@lists.frers33.com > http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list > > > End of frers-list Digest From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Aug 3 00:13:07 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Bob A.) Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:13:07 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step References: <20090802050859.DC65761B18@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: <001001ca13c6$cbc4b8c0$f8c52d18@oemcomputer> A weak mast step appears to be a common problem with the 33's....Carroll Marine did not do a good job with constructing this area. Our solution with #33 ( Windswept 3) was to peel off the top skin of the step from the forward bunk bulkhead all the way to the bilge sump, remove the soggy plywood that was supposed to be the structural filler, and replace it with high density foam set on edge. Any voids were filled with filled resin and glass strands. That whole length of that box became one stiff unitized structural beam. A new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired, and painted so it looked original. While we were at it, woven roving was bonded to the shower sump and the under-sink sump. There was a major improvement in supporting the mast load and keeping the rig taught, and it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the boat lasts. Bob Ames. From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Aug 3 16:16:54 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Kurt Hudson) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 11:16:54 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step In-Reply-To: <001001ca13c6$cbc4b8c0$f8c52d18@oemcomputer> References: <20090802050859.DC65761B18@mailman.siteprotect.com> <001001ca13c6$cbc4b8c0$f8c52d18@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <008201ca144d$6f8c6670$4ea53350$@com> How's Windswept doing? Good to hear from you...we miss racing you guys. -----Original Message----- From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Bob A. Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:13 PM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step A weak mast step appears to be a common problem with the 33's....Carroll Marine did not do a good job with constructing this area. Our solution with #33 ( Windswept 3) was to peel off the top skin of the step from the forward bunk bulkhead all the way to the bilge sump, remove the soggy plywood that was supposed to be the structural filler, and replace it with high density foam set on edge. Any voids were filled with filled resin and glass strands. That whole length of that box became one stiff unitized structural beam. A new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired, and painted so it looked original. While we were at it, woven roving was bonded to the shower sump and the under-sink sump. There was a major improvement in supporting the mast load and keeping the rig taught, and it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the boat lasts. Bob Ames. _______________________________________________ frers-list mailing list frers-list@lists.frers33.com http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4301 (20090803) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Aug 3 17:18:40 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Richard Saunders) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 09:18:40 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step In-Reply-To: <008201ca144d$6f8c6670$4ea53350$@com> References: <20090802050859.DC65761B18@mailman.siteprotect.com> <001001ca13c6$cbc4b8c0$f8c52d18@oemcomputer> <008201ca144d$6f8c6670$4ea53350$@com> Message-ID: <269208.8303.qm@web83809.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> --0-682981213-1249316320=:8303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I seem to recall years ago a pretty elaborate write up of a mast step repai= r complete with photos, and I'm pretty sure in was either on=A0our website = or on this discussion board.=A0 But I can't find it now. =A0From Bob Ames' = description below of their fix on Windswept 3, I wonder if it was his write= up.=A0 If it was, and he still has the photos, it'd be something worth post= ing on our website.=0A=0ADick Saunders=0A=0A=0A=0A_________________________= _______=0AFrom: Kurt Hudson =0ATo: frers-list@l= ists.frers33.com=0ASent: Monday, August 3, 2009 11:16:54 AM=0ASubject: RE: = [frers-list]Mast Step=0A=0AHow's Windswept doing? Good to hear from you...w= e miss racing you guys. =0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: frers-list= -admin@lists.frers33.com=0A[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On B= ehalf Of Bob A.=0ASent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:13 PM=0ATo: frers-list@li= sts.frers33.com=0ASubject: [frers-list]Mast Step=0A=0AA weak mast step appe= ars to be a common problem with the 33's....Carroll=0AMarine did not do a g= ood job with constructing this area.=0AOur solution with #33 ( Windswept 3)= was to peel off the top skin of the=0Astep from the forward bunk bulkhead = all the way to the bilge sump, remove=0Athe soggy plywood that was supposed= to be the structural filler, and replace=0Ait with high density foam set o= n edge.=0AAny voids were filled with filled resin and glass strands. That w= hole length=0Aof that box became one stiff unitized structural beam.=0AA ne= w fiberglass top skin was laid, faired, and painted so it looked=0Aoriginal= .=0AWhile we were at it, woven roving was bonded to the shower sump and the= =0Aunder-sink sump.=0AThere was a major improvement in supporting the mast = load and keeping the=0Arig taught, and it's impervious to water seepage / r= ot for as long as the=0Aboat lasts.=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Bob Ames.=0A=0A=0A=0A__________________= _____________________________=0Afrers-list mailing list=0Afrers-list@lists.= frers33.com=0Ahttp://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list=0A=0A___= _______ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature= =0Adatabase 4301 (20090803) __________=0A=0AThe message was checked by ESET= NOD32 Antivirus.=0A=0Ahttp://www.eset.com=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________= __________________________=0Afrers-list mailing list=0Afrers-list@lists.fre= rs33.com=0Ahttp://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list=0A --0-682981213-1249316320=:8303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I seem to recall years ago a pretty elaborate write up of a mas= t step repair complete with photos, and I'm pretty sure in was either on&nb= sp;our website or on this discussion board.  But I can't find it now. =  From Bob Ames' description below of their fix on Windswept 3, I wonde= r if it was his writeup.  If it was, and he still has the photos, it'd= be something worth posting on our website.
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To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 11:16:54 AM
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Mast Step

How's Windswept doing? Good to hear from you...we miss racing you g= uys.

-----Original Message-----
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Bob A.<= BR>Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 7:13 PM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.c= om
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step

A weak mast step appears to= be a common problem with the 33's....Carroll
Marine did not do a good j= ob with constructing this area.
Our solution with #33 ( Windswept 3) was= to peel off the top skin of the
step from the forward bunk bulkhead all= the way to the bilge sump, remove
the soggy plywood that was supposed t= o be the structural filler, and replace
it with high density foam set on= edge.
Any voids were filled with filled resin and glass strands. That w= hole length
of that box became one stiff unitized structural beam.
A = new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired, and painted so it looked
origi= nal.
While we were at it, woven roving was bonded to the shower sump and= the
under-sink sump.
There was a major improvement in supporting the= mast load and keeping the
rig taught, and it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the
boat lasts.

     = ;                     &nb= sp;       Bob Ames.



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--0-682981213-1249316320=:8303-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Aug 3 18:29:03 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (frers-list@lists.frers33.com) Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:29:03 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #294 - 2 msgs In-Reply-To: <20090803050928.120D961FB7@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: <646185252.7941731249320543765.JavaMail.root@sz0053a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> ------=_Part_396867_1784518522.1249320543764 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Gentlemen,=20 I took out my mast step a few years back. The symptom that led me to that d= ecision was that while lying on the side deck on one of those rare occasion= s that we were cruising, I noticed that in a 1 foot chop, the portion=20 of the mast above the top spreader was pumping with the waves. This in a 10= kt wind. At the end of the season I drilled into the mast step and came ou= t with wet wood. It seems CM had installed a longitudinal stiffener from th= e bow to the end of the mast step. As water came in through the inside of t= he mast it eventually migrated through the plastic covering of the step, pr= obably through the bolts, and had been sucked up into the wood.=20 I removed the top layer of the mast step, keeping the plastic for later re = installation , and drilled out the stwood as far forward as the beginning o= f the head door. The rest of teh area seemed reasonably dry. I was lucky as= the brother in law of one of the managers at Caroll Marine, worked for a l= ocal boat store and after discussing the problem I was advised to use a pro= duct called " penske board" which I had to buy in a buld 8x12 bul sheet, 1"= thick. I believe I got it from CM at the time for about $350.00. I cut the= board into layers and using an epoxy/fiberglass slurry, fitted these 1" bo= ard into the void I had created above the keel. There is a product the Defe= nder sells which is small fiberglass chips and you buy it by the pound . It= mixed will with the epoxy to fill gaps and add strength. I then epoxied th= e original plastic cover over the repair. As a part of my suspenders and be= lt approach, I found a stainless steel plate which I had cut to the width o= f the area of the mast step and long enough to g o from the back of the mas= t step all the way forward to the beginning of the head door, laid that dow= n above the repair and then placed the mast boot over that and tightened th= e keel bolts . The SS plate served to spread the weight of the mast over a = longer area.=20 One more thing. Carefully inspect the butt late for the mast . if the mast = has been flexing up and down, the plate may have tiny cracks in it from fle= xing. I took mine to a local welder and he repaired the cracks.=C2=A0=20 The repair worked well, the mast stopped pumping and years later when I eve= ntually had to have the keel root worked on, the yard fiberglass guys compl= imented me on the repair.=20 Any one who has questions regarding the above can email me at fwitt1@comcas= t.net =C2=A0=20 Frank Wittosch=20 Lake Michigan Frers contingent=C2=A0----- Original Message -----=20 From: frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com=20 To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 12:09:28 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central=20 Subject: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #294 - 2 msgs=20 Send frers-list mailing list submissions to=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0frers-list@lists.frers33.co= m=20 To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http ://lists.frers33.com/= mailman/ listinfo /frers-list=20 or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0frers-list-request@lists.fr= ers33.com=20 You can reach the person managing the list at=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0frers-list-admin@lists.frer= s33.com=20 When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific=20 than "Re: Contents of frers-list digest..."=20 Today's Topics:=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. 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Mast Step (Bob A.)=20 -- __ -- __ --=20 Message: 1=20 Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:39:41 -0300=20 From: rod stright & lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca>=20 To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs=20 Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Thanks Frank. =C2=A0I'll pass that along. =C2=A0Has anyone had to take out = the mast=20 step and if so what was it replaced with>=20 Rod=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: & lt ;frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com>=20 To: & lt ;frers-list@lists.frers33.com>=20 Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:08 AM=20 Subject: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs=20 > Send frers-list mailing list submissions to=20 > frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 >=20 > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit=20 > http ://lists.frers33.com/mailman/ listinfo /frers-list=20 > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to=20 > frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com=20 >=20 > You can reach the person managing the list at=20 > frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com=20 >=20 > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific=20 > than "Re: Contents of frers-list digest..."=20 >=20 >=20 > Today's Topics:=20 >=20 > =C2=A0 1. Mast Step Frers 33 (rod stright )=20 > =C2=A0 2. Re: Mast Step Frers 33 (FRANCIS ALBERT)=20 >=20 > -- __ -- __ --=20 >=20 > Message: 1=20 > Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:25:40 -0300=20 > From: rod stright & lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca>=20 > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 > Cc: Bill Petersen & lt ; billpmdr @ gmail .com>=20 > Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33=20 > Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 >=20 > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.=20 >=20 > -- Boundary_ (ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA)=20 > Content-type: text/plain; charset =3Diso-8859-1=20 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT=20 >=20 > Hi Guys,=20 >=20 > Hope everyone is out sailing. =C2=A0I am enclosing a note/request from Bi= ll=20 > Petersen which is self explanatory. =C2=A0I haven't had any problems myse= lf but=20 > perhaps someone who has could respond.=20 >=20 > Rod=20 >=20 > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: Bill Petersen=20 > To: StrightR @ eastlink .ca=20 > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM=20 > Subject: Frers 33 #12=20 >=20 >=20 > Rod=20 > Nice tuning guide your group put together. =C2=A0I have hull #12 in Marin= a del=20 > Rey CA. =C2=A0I am looking for some input on mast steps. =C2=A0Mine it se= ems is=20 > compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weepin= g=20 > in from port aft side of step in bilge. =C2=A0Surveyor says there is a hi= gh=20 > moisture content at the mast step. =C2=A0Any ideas, repairs, reason your = group=20 > of owners may have ? =C2=A0Like to hear some thoughts before I get the gr= inder=20 > out. =C2=A0Boat is in beautiful shape other wise.=20 >=20 > Bill Petersen=20 > Marina del Rey CA=20 > 877 262 8703 office=20 > billpmdr @ gmail .com=20 > 310 694 8035 fax=20 >=20 > -- Boundary_ (ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA)=20 > Content-type: text/ html ; charset =3Diso-8859-1=20 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT=20 >=20 > & lt ;! DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C// DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">=20 > & lt ;HTML>& lt ;HEAD>=20 > & lt ;META content=3D"text/ html ; charset =3Diso-8859-1" http -equiv=3DC= ontent-Type>=20 > & lt ;META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D" MSHTML 8.00.6001.18812">=20 > & lt ;STYLE>& lt ;/STYLE>=20 > & lt ;/HEAD>=20 > & lt ;BODY bgColor =3D# ffffff >=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;STRONG>& lt ;EM>& lt ;FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3 face=3D"Times N= ew Roman">Hi=20 > Guys,& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">& lt ;/FONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3>& lt ;FONT face= =3D"Times New=20 > Roman">Hope=20 > everyone is out sailing.& nbsp ; I am enclosing a note/& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;= FONT=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">request from Bill Petersen which is self=20 > explanatory.& nbsp ; I haven't had any problems myself but perhaps someon= e=20 > who has=20 > could respond.& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">& lt ;/FONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3=20 > face=3D"Times New Roman">Rod& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT face=3D"Times New=20 > Roman">& lt ;/FONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">----- Original Message -----=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">& lt ;B>From:&= lt ;/B> & lt ;A=20 > title=3D billpmdr @ gmail .com href =3D" mailto : billpmdr @ gmail .com">= Bill=20 > Petersen& lt ;/A>=20 > & lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;B>To:& lt ;/B> & lt ;A title=3D StrightR @ eastlink .ca= =20 > href =3D" mailto : StrightR @ eastlink .ca"> StrightR @ eastlink .ca& lt = ;/A> & lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;B>Sent:& lt ;/B> Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM& lt ;/= DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;B>Subject:& lt ;/B> Frers 33 #12& lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;BR>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D2 face=3D Arial >Rod& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>= =20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D2 face=3D Arial >Nice tuning guide your group= put=20 > together.& nbsp ; I=20 > have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.& nbsp ; I am looking for some input o= n=20 > mast=20 > steps.& nbsp ; Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to keel joint= =20 > under=20 > mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step in bilge.& nbsp= ;=20 > Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast step.& nbsp ; = Any=20 > ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?& nbsp ; Like to he= ar=20 > some=20 > thoughts before I get the grinder out.& nbsp ; Boat is in beautiful shape= =20 > other=20 > wise.& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D2 face=3D Arial >& lt ;/FONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;/D= IV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D2 face=3D Arial >Bill Petersen& lt ;BR>Marina= del Rey CA& lt ;BR>877 262=20 > 8703=20 > office& lt ;BR>& lt ;A=20 > href =3D" mailto : billpmdr @ gmail .com"> billpmdr @ gmail .com& lt ;/A>= & lt ;BR>310 694=20 > 8035 fax& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/EM>& lt ;/STRONG>& lt ;= /DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;STRONG>& lt ;EM>& lt ;FONT color=3D#000080=20 > size=3D2>& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/EM>& lt ;/STRONG>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/BO= DY>& lt ;/HTML>=20 >=20 > -- Boundary_ (ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0sA)--=20 >=20 > -- __ -- __ --=20 >=20 > Message: 2=20 > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT)=20 > From: FRANCIS ALBERT & lt ; fxalbert @prodigy.net>=20 > Subject: Re: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33=20 > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 > Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 >=20 >=20 > --0-1695020924-1249181893=3D:92591=20 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset =3Diso-8859-1=20 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable=20 >=20 > =3DA0=20 > I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.=3DA0 What needs to be= =20 > don=3D=20 > e is to grind out the crack area and reglass it in the yard when the boat= =20 > i=3D=20 > s hauled.=20 > =3DA0=20 > The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the same=20 > area=3DA0that=3D=20 > also had to be repaired.=3DA0 After that I've had no additional=20 > problems.=3DA0=3D=20 > It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water getting into the= =20 > bo =3D=20 > at things make me nervous so I had the yard do the work.=20 > =3DA0=20 > Frank Albert=20 > =3DA0=20 > =3DA0=20 > =3DA0=20 >=20 > --- On Sat, 8/1/09, rod stright & lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca> wrote:=20 >=20 >=20 > From: rod stright & lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca>=20 > Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33=20 > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 > Cc: "Bill Petersen" & lt ; billpmdr @ gmail .com>=20 > Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 9:25 PM=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Hi Guys,=20 > =3DA0=20 > Hope everyone is out sailing.=3DA0 I am enclosing a note/request from Bil= l=20 > Pe =3D=20 > tersen which is self explanatory.=3DA0 I haven't had any problems myself = but=20 > =3D=20 > perhaps someone who has could respond.=20 > =3DA0=20 > Rod=20 > =3DA0=20 > ----- Original Message -----=3D20=20 > From: Bill Petersen=3D20=20 > To: StrightR @ eastlink .ca=3D20=20 > Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM=20 > Subject: Frers 33 #12=20 >=20 >=20 > Rod=20 > Nice tuning guide your group put together.=3DA0 I have hull #12 in Marina= =20 > del =3D=20 > Rey CA.=3DA0 I am looking for some input on mast steps.=3DA0 Mine it seem= s is=20 > =3D=20 > compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weepin= g=20 > =3D=20 > in from port aft side of step in bilge.=3DA0 Surveyor says there is a hig= h=20 > mo=3D=20 > isture content at the mast step.=3DA0 Any ideas, repairs, reason your gro= up=20 > o=3D=20 > f owners may have ?=3DA0 Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grin= der=20 > =3D=20 > out.=3DA0 Boat is in beautiful shape other wise.=20 > =3DA0=20 > Bill Petersen=20 > Marina del Rey CA=20 > 877 262 8703 office=20 > billpmdr @ gmail .com=20 > 310 694 8035 fax=20 > =3DA0=20 > --0-1695020924-1249181893=3D:92591=20 > Content-Type: text/ html ; charset =3Diso-8859-1=20 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable=20 >=20 > & lt ;table cellspacing =3D3D"0" cellpadding =3D3D"0" border=3D3D"0" >& l= t ;tr>& lt ; td=20 > valign =3D3D"=3D=20 > top" style=3D3D"font: inherit;">& lt ;DIV>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.& nbsp ; Wha= t needs=20 > t=3D=20 > o be done is to grind out the crack area and reglass it in the yard when= =20 > th =3D=20 > e boat is hauled.& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the same= =20 > area&n=3D=20 > bsp ;that also had to be repaired.& nbsp ; After that I've had no additio= nal=20 > p=3D=20 > roblems .& nbsp ; It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water= =20 > getti =3D=20 > ng into the boat things make me nervous so I had the yard do the=20 > work.& lt ;/DIV=3D=20 >>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>Frank Albert& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;BR>--- On & lt ;B>Sat, 8/1/09, rod stright=20 > & lt ;I>& lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca>=3D=20 > & lt ;/I>& lt ;/B> wrote:& lt ;BR>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ; BLOCKQUOTE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb (16,16,255) 2px solid; PADD= ING-LEFT:=20 > 5=3D=20 > px ; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">& lt ;BR>From: rod stright=20 > & lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca>& lt ;BR=3D=20 >>Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33& lt ;BR>To:=20 >>frers-list@lists.frers33.co=3D=20 > m& lt ;BR>Cc: "Bill Petersen" & lt ; billpmdr @ gmail .com>& lt ;BR>Da= te: Saturday,=20 > Augu =3D=20 > st 1, 2009, 9:25 PM& lt ;BR>& lt ;BR>=20 > & lt ;DIV id=3D3Dyiv1880532222>=20 > & lt ;STYLE>& lt ;/STYLE>=20 >=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;STRONG>& lt ;EM>& lt ;FONT color=3D3D#000080 size=3D3D2>= =20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"T= imes New Roman">Hi=20 > =3D=20 > Guys,& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"T= imes New=20 > Roman">& lt ;/F=3D=20 > ONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3D3>& lt ;FONT = face=3D3D"Times New=20 > Roma=3D=20 > n">Hope everyone is out sailing.& nbsp ; I am enclosing a note/& lt ;/FON= T>& lt ;FONT=20 > f=3D=20 > ace=3D3D"Times New Roman">request from Bill Petersen which is self=20 > explanator =3D=20 > y.& nbsp ; I haven't had any problems myself but perhaps someone who has= =20 > coul =3D=20 > d respond.& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"T= imes New=20 > Roman">& lt ;/F=3D=20 > ONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT size=3D3D3 face=3D3D"T= imes New=20 > Roman">Rod=3D=20 > & lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">& lt ;FONT face=3D3D"Times New=20 > Roman">& lt ;/FONT>& nbsp =3D=20 > ;& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial ">----- Original Message -----=3D20= =20 > & lt ;DIV style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4">& lt ;B>From:& lt ;/B> & lt ;A= =20 > title=3D3Dbillpmdr@ gmail .c=3D=20 > om=20 > href =3D3D" http ://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/ mc /compose?to=3D3Dbillpmdr@= gmail .co=3D=20 > m" rel=3D3Dnofollow target=3D3D_blank=20 > ymailto =3D3D" mailto : billpmdr @ gmail .com">Bil=3D=20 > l Petersen& lt ;/A> & lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;B>To:& lt ;/B> & lt ;A title=3D3DStrightR@ eastlink .ca= =20 > href =3D3D" http ://us.mc811. mai =3D=20 > l.yahoo.com/ mc /compose?to=3D3DStrightR@ eastlink .ca" rel=3D3Dnofollow= =20 > target=3D3D_=3D=20 > blank ymailto =3D3D" mailto : StrightR @ eastlink .ca"> StrightR @ eastli= nk .ca& lt ;/A>=20 > & lt ;/DI=3D=20 > V>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;B>Sent:& lt ;/B> Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM& lt ;/= DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;B>Subject:& lt ;/B> Frers 33 #12& lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;BR>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Rod& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>= =20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Nice tuning guide your gro= up put=20 > together.=3D=20 > & nbsp ; I have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.& nbsp ; I am looking for s= ome=20 > in=3D=20 > put on mast steps.& nbsp ; Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to= =20 > kee =3D=20 > l joint under mast step and water weeping in from port aft side of step i= n=20 > =3D=20 > bilge.& nbsp ; Surveyor says there is a high moisture content at the mast= =20 > ste =3D=20 > p.& nbsp ; Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?& nb= sp ;=20 > L=3D=20 > ike to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder out.& nbsp ; Boat is i= n=20 > be=3D=20 > autiful shape other wise.& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>& lt ;/FONT>& nbsp ;& lt ;= /DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Bill Petersen& lt ;BR>Mari= na del Rey CA& lt ;BR>877=20 > =3D=20 > 262 8703 office& lt ;BR>& lt ;A=20 > href =3D3D" http ://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/ mc /compose?to=3D=20 > =3D3Dbillpmdr@ gmail .com" rel=3D3Dnofollow target=3D3D_blank=20 > ymailto =3D3D" mailto : bil =3D=20 > lpmdr @ gmail .com"> billpmdr @ gmail .com& lt ;/A>& lt ;BR>310 694 8035= =20 > fax& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/F=3D=20 > ONT>& lt ;/EM>& lt ;/STRONG>& lt ;/DIV>=20 > & lt ;DIV>& lt ;STRONG>& lt ;EM>& lt ;FONT color=3D3D#000080=20 > size=3D3D2>& lt ;/FONT>& lt ;/EM>& lt ;/STRONG>& nbsp ;=3D=20 > & lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/DIV>& lt ;/ BLOCKQUOTE >& lt ;/ td >& lt ;/tr>& lt ;/ta= ble>=20 > --0-1695020924-1249181893=3D:92591--=20 >=20 >=20 > -- __ -- __ --=20 >=20 > __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ = _ __=20 > frers-list mailing list=20 > frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 > http ://lists.frers33.com/mailman/ listinfo /frers-list=20 >=20 >=20 > End of frers-list Digest=20 -- __ -- __ --=20 Message: 2=20 Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:13:07 -0400=20 From: "Bob A." & lt ; rames @ suffolk .lib. ny .us>=20 To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step=20 Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 A weak mast step appears to be a common problem with the 33's....Carroll=20 Marine did not do a good job with constructing this area.=20 Our solution with #33 ( Windswept 3) was to peel off the top skin of the=20 step from the forward bunk bulkhead all the way to the bilge sump, remove= =20 the soggy plywood that was supposed to be the structural filler, and replac= e=20 it with high density foam set on edge.=20 Any voids were filled with filled resin and glass strands. That whole lengt= h=20 of that box became one stiff unitized structural beam.=20 A new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired , and painted so it looked=20 original.=20 While we were at it, woven roving was bonded to the shower sump and the=20 under-sink sump.=20 There was a major improvement in supporting the mast load and keeping the= =20 rig taught, and it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the= =20 boat lasts.=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Bob Ames .=20 -- __ -- __ --=20 _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ _ __ = __=20 frers-list mailing list=20 frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 http ://lists.frers33.com/mailman/ listinfo /frers-list=20 End of frers-list Digest=20 ------=_Part_396867_1784518522.1249320543764 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <= div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'>

Gentle= men,

I took out my mast step a few years back. The symptom that led me to tha= t decision was that while lying on the side deck on one of those rare occas= ions that we were cruising, I noticed that in a 1 foot chop, the portionof the mast above the top spreader was pumping with the waves. This in a 1= 0 kt wind. At the end of the season I drilled into the mast step and came o= ut with wet wood. It seems CM had installed a longitudinal stiffener from t= he bow to the end of the mast step. As water came in through the inside of = the mast it eventually migrated through the plastic covering of the step, p= robably through the bolts, and had been sucked up into the wood.

 

I removed the top layer of the mast step, keeping the plastic for later = re installation, and drilled out the stwood as far forward as the beginning= of the head door. The rest of teh area seemed reasonably dry. I was lucky = as the brother in law of one of the managers at Caroll Marine, worked for a= local boat store and after discussing the problem I was advised to use a p= roduct called "penske board" which I had to buy in a buld 8x12 bul sheet, 1= " thick. I believe I got it from CM at the time for about $350.00. I cut th= e board into layers and using an epoxy/fiberglass slurry, fitted these 1" b= oard into the void I had created above the keel. There is a product the Def= ender sells which is small fiberglass chips and you buy it by the pound. It= mixed will with the epoxy to fill gaps and add strength. I then epoxied th= e original plastic cover over the repair. As a part of my suspenders and be= lt approach, I found a stainless steel plate which I had cut to the width o= f the area of the mast step and long enough to go from the back of the mast= step all the way forward to the beginning of the head door, laid that down= above the repair and then placed the mast boot over that and tightened the= keel bolts. The SS plate served to spread the weight of the mast over a lo= nger area.

 

One more thing. Carefully inspect the butt late for the mast. if the mas= t has been flexing up and down, the plate may have tiny cracks in it from f= lexing. I took mine to a local welder and he repaired the cracks. 

 

The repair worked well, the mast stopped pumping and years later when I = eventually had to have the keel root worked on, the yard fiberglass guys co= mplimented me on the repair.

 

Any one who has questions regarding the above can email me at fwitt1@comcast.net 

 

Frank Wittosch

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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:39:= 41 -0300
From: rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca>
To: frers= -list@lists.frers33.com
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Thanks Fra= nk.  I'll pass that along.  Has anyone had to take out the mast <= BR>step and if so what was it replaced with>

Rod
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:2= 5:40 -0300
> From: rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca>
&g= t; To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Cc: Bill Petersen &lt;billp= mdr@gmail.com>
> Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33
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> Hi Guys,
>
> Hope every= one is out sailing.  I am enclosing a note/request from Bill
> = Petersen which is self explanatory.  I haven't had any problems myself= but
> perhaps someone who has could respond.
>
> Rod>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Petersen
= > To: StrightR@eastlink.ca
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 = PM
> Subject: Frers 33 #12
>
>
> Rod
> Nice t= uning guide your group put together.  I have hull #12 in Marina del > Rey CA.  I am looking for some input on mast steps.  Mine = it seems is
> compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast st= ep and water weeping
> in from port aft side of step in bilge.  = ;Surveyor says there is a high
> moisture content at the mast step. =  Any ideas, repairs, reason your group
> of owners may have ? &= nbsp;Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder
> out. &nbs= p;Boat is in beautiful shape other wise.
>
> Bill Petersen
&= gt; Marina del Rey CA
> 877 262 8703 office
> billpmdr@gmail.co= m
> 310 694 8035 fax
>
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&g= t; everyone is out sailing.&nbsp; I am enclosing a note/&lt;/FONT&g= t;&lt;FONT
> face=3D"Times New Roman">request from Bill Peters= en which is self
> explanatory.&nbsp; I haven't had any problems = myself but perhaps someone
> who has
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> &lt;DIV style=3D"FONT= : 10pt arial">&lt;FONT size=3D3
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> &lt;DIV style=3D"FO= NT: 10pt arial">&lt;FONT size=3D3
> face=3D"Times New Roman"&g= t;Rod&lt;/FONT>&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV style=3D"FONT: 1= 0pt arial">&lt;FONT face=3D"Times New
> Roman">&lt;/FO= NT>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt ar= ial">----- Original Message -----
> &lt;DIV style=3D"BACKGROU= ND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black">&lt;B>From:&lt;/B> &lt= ;A
> title=3Dbillpmdr@gmail.com href=3D"mailto:billpmdr@gmail.com">= ;Bill
> Petersen&lt;/A>
> &lt;/DIV>
> &= ;lt;DIV>&lt;B>To:&lt;/B> &lt;A title=3DStrightR@eastli= nk.ca
> href=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca">StrightR@eastlink.ca&= amp;lt;/A> &lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&lt;B>Sent:&am= p;lt;/B> Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM&lt;/DIV>
> &= lt;DIV>&lt;B>Subject:&lt;/B> Frers 33 #12&lt;/DIV>&= amp;lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&lt;BR>&lt;/DIV>
&g= t; &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Rod&lt;/FONT>= ;&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial= >Nice tuning guide your group put
> together.&nbsp; I
>= have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.&nbsp; I am looking for some input = on
> mast
> steps.&nbsp; Mine it seems is compressing, cra= ck at hull to keel joint
> under
> mast step and water weeping= in from port aft side of step in bilge.&nbsp;
> Surveyor says th= ere is a high moisture content at the mast step.&nbsp; Any
> idea= s, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?&nbsp; Like to hear <= BR>> some
> thoughts before I get the grinder out.&nbsp; Boat = is in beautiful shape
> other
> wise.&lt;/FONT>&lt;= /DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>&= lt;/FONT>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT = size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bill Petersen&lt;BR>Marina del Rey CA&l= t;BR>877 262
> 8703
> office&lt;BR>&lt;A
>= ; href=3D"mailto:billpmdr@gmail.com">billpmdr@gmail.com&lt;/A>&am= p;lt;BR>310 694
> 8035 fax&lt;/FONT>&lt;/DIV>&lt= ;/FONT>&lt;/EM>&lt;/STRONG>&lt;/DIV>
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> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT)
> F= rom: FRANCIS ALBERT &lt;fxalbert@prodigy.net>
> Subject: Re: [= frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
&= gt; Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
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> = =3DA0
> I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.=3DA0 What= needs to be
> don=3D
> e is to grind out the crack area and r= eglass it in the yard when the boat
> i=3D
> s hauled.
>= =3DA0
> The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the s= ame
> area=3DA0that=3D
> also had to be repaired.=3DA0 After t= hat I've had no additional
> problems.=3DA0=3D
> It's a relati= vely straight forward fix but those water getting into the
> bo=3D> at things make me nervous so I had the yard do the work.
> =3D= A0
> Frank Albert
> =3DA0
> =3DA0
> =3DA0
>> --- On Sat, 8/1/09, rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca> wro= te:
>
>
> From: rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca&= gt;
> Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33
> To: frers-list@= lists.frers33.com
> Cc: "Bill Petersen" &lt;billpmdr@gmail.com>= ;
> Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 9:25 PM
>
>
>>
>
>
> Hi Guys,
> =3DA0
> Hope everyone= is out sailing.=3DA0 I am enclosing a note/request from Bill
> Pe= =3D
> tersen which is self explanatory.=3DA0 I haven't had any proble= ms myself but
> =3D
> perhaps someone who has could respond.> =3DA0
> Rod
> =3DA0
> ----- Original Message -----= =3D20
> From: Bill Petersen=3D20
> To: StrightR@eastlink.ca=3D2= 0
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM
> Subject: Frers 33= #12
>
>
> Rod
> Nice tuning guide your group put t= ogether.=3DA0 I have hull #12 in Marina
> del=3D
> Rey CA.=3DA= 0 I am looking for some input on mast steps.=3DA0 Mine it seems is
>= =3D
> compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and w= ater weeping
> =3D
> in from port aft side of step in bilge.= =3DA0 Surveyor says there is a high
> mo=3D
> isture content a= t the mast step.=3DA0 Any ideas, repairs, reason your group
> o=3D> f owners may have ?=3DA0 Like to hear some thoughts before I get the= grinder
> =3D
> out.=3DA0 Boat is in beautiful shape other wi= se.
> =3DA0
> Bill Petersen
> Marina del Rey CA
> 8= 77 262 8703 office
> billpmdr@gmail.com
> 310 694 8035 fax
&= gt; =3DA0
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> &lt;DIV>I had this problem after I had the mast step= fixed.&nbsp; What needs
> t=3D
> o be done is to grind ou= t the crack area and reglass it in the yard when
> th=3D
> e b= oat is hauled.&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&nbsp;&lt;/DI= V>
> &lt;DIV>The second year it developed a second smaller = crack in the same
> area&n=3D
> bsp;that also had to be re= paired.&nbsp; After that I've had no additional
> p=3D
> r= oblems.&nbsp; It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water > getti=3D
> ng into the boat things make me nervous so I had th= e yard do the
> work.&lt;/DIV=3D
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> &lt;DIV= >&nbsp;&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>Frank Albert&lt;/= DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;D= IV>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&nbsp;&lt;/= DIV>
> &lt;DIV>&lt;BR>--- On &lt;B>Sat, 8/1/0= 9, rod stright
> &lt;I>&lt;strightr@eastlink.ca&gt;= =3D
> &lt;/I>&lt;/B> wrote:&lt;BR>&lt;/DIV&g= t;
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> px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">&lt;B= R>From: rod stright
> &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca&gt;&lt= ;BR=3D
>>Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33&lt;BR>To: =
>>frers-list@lists.frers33.co=3D
> m&lt;BR>Cc: "Bill= Petersen" &lt;billpmdr@gmail.com&gt;&lt;BR>Date: Saturday, =
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> ace=3D3D"Times New Roman">req= uest from Bill Petersen which is self
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> om
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> &lt;DIV>&lt;B>Sent:&lt;/B> Saturday, August = 01, 2009 3:43 PM&lt;/DIV>
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> &lt;DIV>&lt;FON= T size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Rod&lt;/FONT>&lt;/DIV>
>= &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Nice tuning guide= your group put
> together.=3D
> &nbsp; I have hull #12 in= Marina del Rey CA.&nbsp; I am looking for some
> in=3D
> = put on mast steps.&nbsp; Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to=
> kee=3D
> l joint under mast step and water weeping in from = port aft side of step in
> =3D
> bilge.&nbsp; Surveyor say= s there is a high moisture content at the mast
> ste=3D
> p.&a= mp;nbsp; Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?&nbs= p;
> L=3D
> ike to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder= out.&nbsp; Boat is in
> be=3D
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:13:07 -0400
From: "Bob A." = &lt;rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
= Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step
Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
A weak mast step appears to be a common problem with the 33's....Carro= ll
Marine did not do a good job with constructing this area.
Our solu= tion with #33 ( Windswept 3) was to peel off the top skin of the
step fr= om the forward bunk bulkhead all the way to the bilge sump, remove
the s= oggy plywood that was supposed to be the structural filler, and replace
= it with high density foam set on edge.
Any voids were filled with filled= resin and glass strands. That whole length
of that box became one stiff= unitized structural beam.
A new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired, a= nd painted so it looked
original.
While we were at it, woven roving w= as bonded to the shower sump and the
under-sink sump.
There was a maj= or improvement in supporting the mast load and keeping the
rig taught, a= nd it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the
boat lasts.=

                  = ;                Bob Ames.

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------=_Part_396867_1784518522.1249320543764-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Aug 13 01:19:06 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (rod stright) Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:19:06 -0300 Subject: [frers-list]Barrient 21 ST Winch Message-ID: <7BD04DEB580C4030B19AC600BF36C8E6@CMSS> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_zgtHITmKcWi+e/XpZT3CVg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I have lost the drum from a Barrient 21 ST (cabin top winch on Frers 33). Does anybody have a spare winch or one they have replaced. Thanks Rod Equinox --Boundary_(ID_zgtHITmKcWi+e/XpZT3CVg) Content-type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
I have lost the drum from a Barrient 21 ST (cabin top winch on Frers 33).  Does anybody have a spare winch or one they have replaced.
 
Thanks
Rod
Equinox
 
--Boundary_(ID_zgtHITmKcWi+e/XpZT3CVg)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Aug 13 14:27:41 2009 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT) Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:27:41 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Barrient 21 ST Winch In-Reply-To: <7BD04DEB580C4030B19AC600BF36C8E6@CMSS> Message-ID: <403571.25468.qm@web81103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --0-1917418522-1250170061=:25468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used to have two of these sitting in a box in my garage.=A0 I had replace= d them after loosing one drum and replacing it and then loosing the other d= rum which I decided I was not going to replace and just bit the bullet and = bought two nice Harkens which solved the probelm completely.=A0 In one of t= he garage clean outs they went to the dump. =A0 Just in case you're wondering it would be around $1000 for two good cabin t= op self tailing Harkens. --- On Wed, 8/12/09, rod stright wrote: From: rod stright Subject: [frers-list]Barrient 21 ST Winch To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 8:19 PM I have lost the drum from a Barrient 21 ST (cabin top winch on Frers 33).= =A0 Does anybody have a spare winch or one they have replaced. =A0 Thanks Rod=20 Equinox =A0 --0-1917418522-1250170061=:25468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I used to have two of these sitting in a= box in my garage.  I had replaced them after loosing one drum and rep= lacing it and then loosing the other drum which I decided I was not going t= o replace and just bit the bullet and bought two nice Harkens which solved = the probelm completely.  In one of the garage clean outs they went to = the dump.
 
Just in case you're wondering it would be around $1000 for two good ca= bin top self tailing Harkens.

--- On Wed, 8/12/09, rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca> wrote:

From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>Subject: [frers-list]Barrient 21 ST Winch
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.= com
Date: Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 8:19 PM

I have lost the drum from a Barrient 21= ST (cabin top winch on Frers 33).  Does anybody have a spare winch or= one they have replaced.
 
Thanks
Rod
Equinox
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