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Gentlemen,=20
I took out my mast step a few years back. The symptom that led me to that d=
ecision was that while lying on the side deck on one of those rare occasion=
s that we were cruising, I noticed that in a 1 foot chop, the portion=20
of the mast above the top spreader was pumping with the waves. This in a 10=
kt wind. At the end of the season I drilled into the mast step and came ou=
t with wet wood. It seems CM had installed a longitudinal stiffener from th=
e bow to the end of the mast step. As water came in through the inside of t=
he mast it eventually migrated through the plastic covering of the step, pr=
obably through the bolts, and had been sucked up into the wood.=20
I removed the top layer of the mast step, keeping the plastic for later re =
installation , and drilled out the stwood as far forward as the beginning o=
f the head door. The rest of teh area seemed reasonably dry. I was lucky as=
the brother in law of one of the managers at Caroll Marine, worked for a l=
ocal boat store and after discussing the problem I was advised to use a pro=
duct called " penske board" which I had to buy in a buld 8x12 bul sheet, 1"=
thick. I believe I got it from CM at the time for about $350.00. I cut the=
board into layers and using an epoxy/fiberglass slurry, fitted these 1" bo=
ard into the void I had created above the keel. There is a product the Defe=
nder sells which is small fiberglass chips and you buy it by the pound . It=
mixed will with the epoxy to fill gaps and add strength. I then epoxied th=
e original plastic cover over the repair. As a part of my suspenders and be=
lt approach, I found a stainless steel plate which I had cut to the width o=
f the area of the mast step and long enough to g o from the back of the mas=
t step all the way forward to the beginning of the head door, laid that dow=
n above the repair and then placed the mast boot over that and tightened th=
e keel bolts . The SS plate served to spread the weight of the mast over a =
longer area.=20
One more thing. Carefully inspect the butt late for the mast . if the mast =
has been flexing up and down, the plate may have tiny cracks in it from fle=
xing. I took mine to a local welder and he repaired the cracks.=C2=A0=20
The repair worked well, the mast stopped pumping and years later when I eve=
ntually had to have the keel root worked on, the yard fiberglass guys compl=
imented me on the repair.=20
Any one who has questions regarding the above can email me at fwitt1@comcas=
t.net =C2=A0=20
Frank Wittosch=20
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Mast Step (Bob A.)=20
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Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:39:41 -0300=20
From: rod stright & lt ; strightr @ eastlink .ca>=20
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20
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Thanks Frank. =C2=A0I'll pass that along. =C2=A0Has anyone had to take out =
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> Nice tuning guide your group put together. =C2=A0I have hull #12 in Marin=
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> in from port aft side of step in bilge. =C2=A0Surveyor says there is a hi=
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> of owners may have ? =C2=A0Like to hear some thoughts before I get the gr=
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> out. =C2=A0Boat is in beautiful shape other wise.=20
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> ----- Original Message -----=3D20=20
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> To: StrightR @ eastlink .ca=3D20=20
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM=20
> Subject: Frers 33 #12=20
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> Nice tuning guide your group put together.=3DA0 I have hull #12 in Marina=
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> compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and water weepin=
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> in from port aft side of step in bilge.=3DA0 Surveyor says there is a hig=
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> Bill Petersen=20
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> 877 262 8703 office=20
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> 310 694 8035 fax=20
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From: "Bob A." & lt ; rames @ suffolk .lib. ny .us>=20
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A weak mast step appears to be a common problem with the 33's....Carroll=20
Marine did not do a good job with constructing this area.=20
Our solution with #33 ( Windswept 3) was to peel off the top skin of the=20
step from the forward bunk bulkhead all the way to the bilge sump, remove=
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the soggy plywood that was supposed to be the structural filler, and replac=
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it with high density foam set on edge.=20
Any voids were filled with filled resin and glass strands. That whole lengt=
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of that box became one stiff unitized structural beam.=20
A new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired , and painted so it looked=20
original.=20
While we were at it, woven roving was bonded to the shower sump and the=20
under-sink sump.=20
There was a major improvement in supporting the mast load and keeping the=
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rig taught, and it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the=
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boat lasts.=20
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div style=3D'font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000'><P>Gentle=
men,</P>
<P>I took out my mast step a few years back. The symptom that led me to tha=
t decision was that while lying on the side deck on one of those rare occas=
ions that we were cruising, I noticed that in a 1 foot chop, the portion<BR=
>of the mast above the top spreader was pumping with the waves. This in a 1=
0 kt wind. At the end of the season I drilled into the mast step and came o=
ut with wet wood. It seems CM had installed a longitudinal stiffener from t=
he bow to the end of the mast step. As water came in through the inside of =
the mast it eventually migrated through the plastic covering of the step, p=
robably through the bolts, and had been sucked up into the wood. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>I removed the top layer of the mast step, keeping the plastic for later =
re installation, and drilled out the stwood as far forward as the beginning=
of the head door. The rest of teh area seemed reasonably dry. I was lucky =
as the brother in law of one of the managers at Caroll Marine, worked for a=
local boat store and after discussing the problem I was advised to use a p=
roduct called "penske board" which I had to buy in a buld 8x12 bul sheet, 1=
" thick. I believe I got it from CM at the time for about $350.00. I cut th=
e board into layers and using an epoxy/fiberglass slurry, fitted these 1" b=
oard into the void I had created above the keel. There is a product the Def=
ender sells which is small fiberglass chips and you buy it by the pound. It=
mixed will with the epoxy to fill gaps and add strength. I then epoxied th=
e original plastic cover over the repair. As a part of my suspenders and be=
lt approach, I found a stainless steel plate which I had cut to the width o=
f the area of the mast step and long enough to go from the back of the mast=
step all the way forward to the beginning of the head door, laid that down=
above the repair and then placed the mast boot over that and tightened the=
keel bolts. The SS plate served to spread the weight of the mast over a lo=
nger area. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>One more thing. Carefully inspect the butt late for the mast. if the mas=
t has been flexing up and down, the plate may have tiny cracks in it from f=
lexing. I took mine to a local welder and he repaired the cracks. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>The repair worked well, the mast stopped pumping and years later when I =
eventually had to have the keel root worked on, the yard fiberglass guys co=
mplimented me on the repair. </P>
<P> </P>
<P>Any one who has questions regarding the above can email me at <A href=3D=
"mailto:fwitt1@comcast.net">fwitt1@comcast.net</A> </P>
<P> </P>
<P>Frank Wittosch</P>
<P>Lake Michigan Frers contingent ----- Original Message -----<BR>From=
: frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com<BR>To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<=
BR>Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 12:09:28 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central<BR=
>Subject: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #294 - 2 msgs<BR><BR>Send frers-list mai=
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t digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs (rod stright)<BR> 2. Mast Step (B=
ob A.)<BR><BR>--__--__--<BR><BR>Message: 1<BR>Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 05:39:=
41 -0300<BR>From: rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca><BR>To: frers=
-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol =
1 #293 - 2 msgs<BR>Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR><BR>Thanks Fra=
nk. I'll pass that along. Has anyone had to take out the mast <=
BR>step and if so what was it replaced with><BR><BR>Rod<BR>----- Origina=
l Message ----- <BR>From: &lt;frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com><=
BR>To: &lt;frers-list@lists.frers33.com><BR>Sent: Sunday, August 02,=
2009 2:08 AM<BR>Subject: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #293 - 2 msgs<BR><BR><BR=
>> Send frers-list mailing list submissions to<BR>> frers-list@lists.=
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Today's Topics:<BR>><BR>> 1. Mast Step Frers 33 (rod stright)=
<BR>> 2. Re: Mast Step Frers 33 (FRANCIS ALBERT)<BR>><BR>> =
-- __--__-- <BR>><BR>> Message: 1<BR>> Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2009 22:2=
5:40 -0300<BR>> From: rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca><BR>&g=
t; To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>> Cc: Bill Petersen &lt;billp=
mdr@gmail.com><BR>> Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33<BR>> R=
eply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>><BR>> This is a multi-part =
message in MIME format.<BR>><BR>> --Boundary_(ID_qx6h4gKPPDeXKMXEM0n0=
sA)<BR>> Content-type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1<BR>> Content-=
transfer-encoding: 7BIT<BR>><BR>> Hi Guys,<BR>><BR>> Hope every=
one is out sailing. I am enclosing a note/request from Bill <BR>> =
Petersen which is self explanatory. I haven't had any problems myself=
but <BR>> perhaps someone who has could respond.<BR>><BR>> Rod<BR=
>><BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>> From: Bill Petersen<BR>=
> To: StrightR@eastlink.ca<BR>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 =
PM<BR>> Subject: Frers 33 #12<BR>><BR>><BR>> Rod<BR>> Nice t=
uning guide your group put together. I have hull #12 in Marina del <B=
R>> Rey CA. I am looking for some input on mast steps. Mine =
it seems is <BR>> compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast st=
ep and water weeping <BR>> in from port aft side of step in bilge.  =
;Surveyor says there is a high <BR>> moisture content at the mast step. =
Any ideas, repairs, reason your group <BR>> of owners may have ? &=
nbsp;Like to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder <BR>> out. &nbs=
p;Boat is in beautiful shape other wise.<BR>><BR>> Bill Petersen<BR>&=
gt; Marina del Rey CA<BR>> 877 262 8703 office<BR>> billpmdr@gmail.co=
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;Bill <BR>> Petersen&lt;/A><BR>> &lt;/DIV><BR>> &=
;lt;DIV>&lt;B>To:&lt;/B> &lt;A title=3DStrightR@eastli=
nk.ca<BR>> href=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca">StrightR@eastlink.ca&=
amp;lt;/A> &lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;B>Sent:&am=
p;lt;/B> Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM&lt;/DIV><BR>> &=
lt;DIV>&lt;B>Subject:&lt;/B> Frers 33 #12&lt;/DIV>&=
amp;lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;BR>&lt;/DIV><BR>&g=
t; &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Rod&lt;/FONT>=
;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial=
>Nice tuning guide your group put <BR>> together.&nbsp; I<BR>>=
have hull #12 in Marina del Rey CA.&nbsp; I am looking for some input =
on <BR>> mast<BR>> steps.&nbsp; Mine it seems is compressing, cra=
ck at hull to keel joint <BR>> under<BR>> mast step and water weeping=
in from port aft side of step in bilge.&nbsp;<BR>> Surveyor says th=
ere is a high moisture content at the mast step.&nbsp; Any<BR>> idea=
s, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?&nbsp; Like to hear <=
BR>> some<BR>> thoughts before I get the grinder out.&nbsp; Boat =
is in beautiful shape <BR>> other<BR>> wise.&lt;/FONT>&lt;=
/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>&=
lt;/FONT>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT =
size=3D2 face=3DArial>Bill Petersen&lt;BR>Marina del Rey CA&l=
t;BR>877 262 <BR>> 8703<BR>> office&lt;BR>&lt;A <BR>>=
; href=3D"mailto:billpmdr@gmail.com">billpmdr@gmail.com&lt;/A>&am=
p;lt;BR>310 694<BR>> 8035 fax&lt;/FONT>&lt;/DIV>&lt=
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gt; Message: 2<BR>> Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 19:58:13 -0700 (PDT)<BR>> F=
rom: FRANCIS ALBERT &lt;fxalbert@prodigy.net><BR>> Subject: Re: [=
frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33<BR>> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>&=
gt; Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>><BR>><BR>> --0-1695=
020924-1249181893=3D:92591<BR>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-=
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=3DA0<BR>> I had this problem after I had the mast step fixed.=3DA0 What=
needs to be <BR>> don=3D<BR>> e is to grind out the crack area and r=
eglass it in the yard when the boat <BR>> i=3D<BR>> s hauled.<BR>>=
=3DA0<BR>> The second year it developed a second smaller crack in the s=
ame <BR>> area=3DA0that=3D<BR>> also had to be repaired.=3DA0 After t=
hat I've had no additional <BR>> problems.=3DA0=3D<BR>> It's a relati=
vely straight forward fix but those water getting into the <BR>> bo=3D<B=
R>> at things make me nervous so I had the yard do the work.<BR>> =3D=
A0<BR>> Frank Albert<BR>> =3DA0<BR>> =3DA0<BR>> =3DA0<BR>><B=
R>> --- On Sat, 8/1/09, rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca> wro=
te:<BR>><BR>><BR>> From: rod stright &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca&=
gt;<BR>> Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33<BR>> To: frers-list@=
lists.frers33.com<BR>> Cc: "Bill Petersen" &lt;billpmdr@gmail.com>=
;<BR>> Date: Saturday, August 1, 2009, 9:25 PM<BR>><BR>><BR>><B=
R>><BR>><BR>><BR>> Hi Guys,<BR>> =3DA0<BR>> Hope everyone=
is out sailing.=3DA0 I am enclosing a note/request from Bill <BR>> Pe=
=3D<BR>> tersen which is self explanatory.=3DA0 I haven't had any proble=
ms myself but <BR>> =3D<BR>> perhaps someone who has could respond.<B=
R>> =3DA0<BR>> Rod<BR>> =3DA0<BR>> ----- Original Message -----=
=3D20<BR>> From: Bill Petersen=3D20<BR>> To: StrightR@eastlink.ca=3D2=
0<BR>> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:43 PM<BR>> Subject: Frers 33=
#12<BR>><BR>><BR>> Rod<BR>> Nice tuning guide your group put t=
ogether.=3DA0 I have hull #12 in Marina <BR>> del=3D<BR>> Rey CA.=3DA=
0 I am looking for some input on mast steps.=3DA0 Mine it seems is <BR>>=
=3D<BR>> compressing, crack at hull to keel joint under mast step and w=
ater weeping <BR>> =3D<BR>> in from port aft side of step in bilge.=
=3DA0 Surveyor says there is a high <BR>> mo=3D<BR>> isture content a=
t the mast step.=3DA0 Any ideas, repairs, reason your group <BR>> o=3D<B=
R>> f owners may have ?=3DA0 Like to hear some thoughts before I get the=
grinder <BR>> =3D<BR>> out.=3DA0 Boat is in beautiful shape other wi=
se.<BR>> =3DA0<BR>> Bill Petersen<BR>> Marina del Rey CA<BR>> 8=
77 262 8703 office<BR>> billpmdr@gmail.com<BR>> 310 694 8035 fax<BR>&=
gt; =3DA0<BR>> --0-1695020924-1249181893=3D:92591<BR>> Content-Type: =
text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1<BR>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-p=
rintable<BR>><BR>> &lt;table cellspacing=3D3D"0" cellpadding=3D3D=
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DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>I had this problem after I had the mast step=
fixed.&nbsp; What needs <BR>> t=3D<BR>> o be done is to grind ou=
t the crack area and reglass it in the yard when <BR>> th=3D<BR>> e b=
oat is hauled.&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&nbsp;&lt;/DI=
V><BR>> &lt;DIV>The second year it developed a second smaller =
crack in the same <BR>> area&n=3D<BR>> bsp;that also had to be re=
paired.&nbsp; After that I've had no additional <BR>> p=3D<BR>> r=
oblems.&nbsp; It's a relatively straight forward fix but those water <B=
R>> getti=3D<BR>> ng into the boat things make me nervous so I had th=
e yard do the <BR>> work.&lt;/DIV=3D<BR>>><BR>> &lt;DIV=
>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>Frank Albert&lt;/=
DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;D=
IV>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&nbsp;&lt;/=
DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;BR>--- On &lt;B>Sat, 8/1/0=
9, rod stright <BR>> &lt;I>&lt;strightr@eastlink.ca&gt;=
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lid; PADDING-LEFT: <BR>> 5=3D<BR>> px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px">&lt;B=
R>From: rod stright <BR>> &lt;strightr@eastlink.ca&gt;&lt=
;BR=3D<BR>>>Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step Frers 33&lt;BR>To: =
<BR>>>frers-list@lists.frers33.co=3D<BR>> m&lt;BR>Cc: "Bill=
Petersen" &lt;billpmdr@gmail.com&gt;&lt;BR>Date: Saturday, =
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>> &lt;DIV id=3D3Dyiv1880532222><BR>> &lt;STYLE>&lt=
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mp;lt;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&lt;FONT size=3D3D3 face=3D3D=
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size=3D3D3>&lt;FONT face=3D3D"Times New <BR>> Roma=3D<BR>> n"=
>Hope everyone is out sailing.&nbsp; I am enclosing a note/&lt;/=
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uest from Bill Petersen which is self <BR>> explanator=3D<BR>> y.&=
;nbsp; I haven't had any problems myself but perhaps someone who has <BR>&g=
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><BR>> &lt;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">&lt;FONT size=
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&nbsp;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"=
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lt;/FONT>&nbsp=3D<BR>> ;&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV styl=
e=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=3D20<BR>> &=
lt;DIV style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4">&lt;B>From:&lt;/B> =
&lt;A <BR>> title=3D3Dbillpmdr@gmail.c=3D<BR>> om <BR>> href=
=3D3D"http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3D3Dbillpmdr@gmail.co=3D=
<BR>> m" rel=3D3Dnofollow target=3D3D_blank <BR>> ymailto=3D3D"mailto=
:billpmdr@gmail.com">Bil=3D<BR>> l Petersen&lt;/A> &lt;/DI=
V><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;B>To:&lt;/B> &lt;A title=
=3D3DStrightR@eastlink.ca <BR>> href=3D3D"http://us.mc811.mai=3D<BR>>=
l.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3D3DStrightR@eastlink.ca" rel=3D3Dnofollow <BR>&=
gt; target=3D3D_=3D<BR>> blank ymailto=3D3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca"=
>StrightR@eastlink.ca&lt;/A> <BR>> &lt;/DI=3D<BR>> V>=
;<BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;B>Sent:&lt;/B> Saturday, August =
01, 2009 3:43 PM&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;B>Subjec=
t:&lt;/B> Frers 33 #12&lt;/DIV>&lt;/DIV><BR>> &=
lt;DIV>&lt;BR>&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;FON=
T size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Rod&lt;/FONT>&lt;/DIV><BR>>=
&lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Nice tuning guide=
your group put <BR>> together.=3D<BR>> &nbsp; I have hull #12 in=
Marina del Rey CA.&nbsp; I am looking for some <BR>> in=3D<BR>> =
put on mast steps.&nbsp; Mine it seems is compressing, crack at hull to=
<BR>> kee=3D<BR>> l joint under mast step and water weeping in from =
port aft side of step in <BR>> =3D<BR>> bilge.&nbsp; Surveyor say=
s there is a high moisture content at the mast <BR>> ste=3D<BR>> p.&a=
mp;nbsp; Any ideas, repairs, reason your group of owners may have ?&nbs=
p; <BR>> L=3D<BR>> ike to hear some thoughts before I get the grinder=
out.&nbsp; Boat is in <BR>> be=3D<BR>> autiful shape other wise.=
&lt;/FONT>&lt;/DIV><BR>> &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=
=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>&lt;/FONT>&nbsp;&lt;/DIV><BR>>=
; &lt;DIV>&lt;FONT size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial>Bill Petersen&am=
p;lt;BR>Marina del Rey CA&lt;BR>877 <BR>> =3D<BR>> 262 8703=
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><BR>Message: 2<BR>Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2009 19:13:07 -0400<BR>From: "Bob A." =
&lt;rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us><BR>To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>=
Subject: [frers-list]Mast Step<BR>Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR=
><BR>A weak mast step appears to be a common problem with the 33's....Carro=
ll<BR>Marine did not do a good job with constructing this area.<BR>Our solu=
tion with #33 ( Windswept 3) was to peel off the top skin of the<BR>step fr=
om the forward bunk bulkhead all the way to the bilge sump, remove<BR>the s=
oggy plywood that was supposed to be the structural filler, and replace<BR>=
it with high density foam set on edge.<BR>Any voids were filled with filled=
resin and glass strands. That whole length<BR>of that box became one stiff=
unitized structural beam.<BR>A new fiberglass top skin was laid, faired, a=
nd painted so it looked<BR>original.<BR>While we were at it, woven roving w=
as bonded to the shower sump and the<BR>under-sink sump.<BR>There was a maj=
or improvement in supporting the mast load and keeping the<BR>rig taught, a=
nd it's impervious to water seepage / rot for as long as the<BR>boat lasts.=
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