[frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and sanitation hose
FRANCIS ALBERT
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Wed, 4 Apr 2012 13:50:44 -0700 (PDT)
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Ed,
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First your going to need really, really good hose.=C2=A0 I recommend Triden=
t Premium Sanitation Hose (Black) from Defender Marine.=C2=A0 It's not chea=
p at $7.99 a foot but there is no (NONE)=C2=A0smell from this hose.=C2=A0 I=
've had it now on the boat for 5 years, no problems.=C2=A0 Next you're goin=
g to want a thick walled rigid plastic tank.=C2=A0 You buy a flexible tank =
and=C2=A0it=C2=A0will stink and you will be sorry.=C2=A0 Someone suggested =
a stainless steel tank once.=C2=A0 You buy that and you're boat will eventu=
ally be filled with waste water.=C2=A0 Nothing but acid is more corrosive t=
han human waste.=C2=A0 It will eat right through SS but has no affect on pl=
astic.=C2=A0 I located my tank forward on the port side.=C2=A0 Everything f=
rom the head is pumped directly into the tank.=C2=A0 From the tank there is=
a Y valve which allows a pump out or overboard discharge if you're offshor=
e.
=C2=A0
My tank is smallish may be 20 maybe 15 gallons but it was the biggest tank =
that would fit up front.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 I think the hose wound up costing me somewhere near $350.=C2=A0 But =
when I sleep in the V-birth just=C2=A03 inches from that stuff and don't sm=
ell anything bad=C2=A0I know it was one of the better boat=C2=A0investments=
.
=C2=A0
Good luck.=C2=A0=20
Frank Albert 41621
--- On Wed, 4/4/12, William Thompson <foredeck@videotron.ca> wrote:
From: William Thompson <foredeck@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and sanitatio=
n hose
To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2012, 12:28 PM
Ed,
Been poking into some of the same issues. Check out the Raritan site for ta=
nks, and really good odor control info.
Bill Thompson=C2=A0
d'Ad lib=C2=A0
Montreal
William Thompson=20
Sent from my iPad
On 2012-04-04, at 12:09 PM, "Bruton, Tom (GECAS)" <Tom.Bruton@gecas.com> wr=
ote:
Having similar problems with the bladder holding tank on my Frers 36, any g=
ood feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Tom
=C2=A0
From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre=
rs33.com] On Behalf Of Ed Putnam
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2012 2:15 PM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and sanitation ho=
se
=C2=A0
1)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I am looking to replace the original bladd=
er water tank, with a rigid tank, moving it to the starboard side. Does any=
one know of a good source for a good fitting tank? I would like to have it =
as far aft and low as possible, with a capacity of about 20 =E2=80=93 30 ga=
llons.
=C2=A0
2)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m also in the process of trying =
to fix/improve the holding tank/plumbing set up. Trying to eliminate the po=
tential for future odor problems. The current set up is not original. Does =
anyone have the original layout of the tank & plumbing for it? I=E2=80=99ve=
seen the set up on Moose, custom tanks and clean. Only problem everything =
is forward, not exactly where I want the weight.
=C2=A0
>From what I have read the air vent from the tank is not suppose to exceed 5=
to 6 feet. I have removed the macerator pump as it was not functioning and=
inhibited getting to the shut off valve for the seacock, and removed the h=
oses which I could readily get to.
Removing the remaining hoses are going to be a real chore as the tank was p=
laced just above the seacock, so it is extremely difficult to remove the ho=
se attached to it.=20
=C2=A0
My goal is to try to minimize the total amount of hose and above all no odo=
r.
=C2=A0
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
=C2=A0
Thanks
Ed Putnam
=C2=A0
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>First your going to need really, really good hose. I recommend T=
rident Premium Sanitation Hose (Black) from Defender Marine. It's not=
cheap at $7.99 a foot but there is no (NONE) smell from this hose.&nb=
sp; I've had it now on the boat for 5 years, no problems. Next you're=
going to want a thick walled rigid plastic tank. You buy a flexible =
tank and it will stink and you will be sorry. Someone sugge=
sted a stainless steel tank once. You buy that and you're boat will e=
ventually be filled with waste water. Nothing but acid is more corros=
ive than human waste. It will eat right through SS but has no affect =
on plastic. I located my tank forward on the port side. Everyth=
ing from the head is pumped directly into the tank. From the tank the=
re is a Y valve which allows a pump out or overboard discharge if you're of=
fshore.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>My tank is smallish may be 20 maybe 15 gallons but it was the biggest =
tank that would fit up front.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> I think the hose wound up costing me somewhere near $350. =
But when I sleep in the V-birth just 3 inches from that stuff and don=
't smell anything bad I know it was one of the better boat invest=
ments.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Good luck. <BR>Frank Albert 41621</DIV>
<DIV><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 4/4/12, William Thompson <I><foredeck@videotron.=
ca></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV>Ed,</DIV>
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<DIV>Been p<SPAN class=3Dyiv290702974Apple-style-span>oking into some of th=
e same issues. Check out the Raritan site for tanks, and really good odor c=
ontrol info.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Bill Thompson </DIV>
<DIV>d'Ad lib </DIV>
<DIV>Montreal<BR><BR>William Thompson=20
<DIV>Sent from my iPad</DIV></DIV>
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11pt">Having similar problems with the bladder holding tank on my Frers 36,=
any good feedback would be greatly appreciated.</SPAN></DIV>
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11pt">Tom</SPAN></DIV>
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om] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ed Putnam<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, March 05, 2012 2:=
15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=
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PAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">I am looking to replace the original bladd=
er water tank, with a rigid tank, moving it to the starboard side. Does any=
one know of a good source for a good fitting tank? I would like to have it =
as far aft and low as possible, with a capacity of about 20 =E2=80=93 30 ga=
llons.</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
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N style=3D"COLOR: black; FONT-SIZE: 7pt"> </S=
PAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">I=E2=80=99m also in the process of trying =
to fix/improve the holding tank/plumbing set up. Trying to eliminate the po=
tential for future odor problems. The current set up is not original. Does =
anyone have the original layout of the tank & plumbing for it? I=E2=80=
=99ve seen the set up on Moose, custom tanks and clean. Only problem everyt=
hing is forward, not exactly where I want the weight.</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"=
COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
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</DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv290702974MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">From what I h=
ave read the air vent from the tank is not suppose to exceed 5 to 6 feet. I=
have removed the macerator pump as it was not functioning and inhibited ge=
tting to the shut off valve for the seacock, and removed the hoses which I =
could readily get to.</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv290702974MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">Removing the =
remaining hoses are going to be a real chore as the tank was placed just ab=
ove the seacock, so it is extremely difficult to remove the hose attached t=
o it. </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv290702974MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> </SPAN>=
</DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv290702974MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">My goal is to=
try to minimize the total amount of hose and above all no odor.</SPAN><SPA=
N style=3D"COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv290702974MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"> </SPAN>=
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<P class=3Dyiv290702974MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black">Thanks</SPAN>=
<SPAN style=3D"COLOR: black"></SPAN></DIV>
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