Edgar = Smith

Pachyderm

= --Apple-Mail-5-94107629-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jul 8 17:30:32 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Gary Moore) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 12:30:32 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price Message-ID: <000c01cd5d26$fed64c90$fc82e5b0$@net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_2FCgWtgXOWGHp9pTTOmC7w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT As 'word of mouth' would have it, I have someone interested in my Frers 33. In keeping up the Class's value, what has been the current asking prices for a Frers 33? Gary Moore ======= Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16970) http://www.pctools.com/ ======= --Boundary_(ID_2FCgWtgXOWGHp9pTTOmC7w) Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

As ‘word of mouth’ would have it, I have someone interested in my Frers 33.

In keeping up the Class’s value, what has been the current asking prices for a Frers 33?

Gary Moore

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======= --Boundary_(ID_2FCgWtgXOWGHp9pTTOmC7w)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jul 8 21:33:50 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2012 16:33:50 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price In-Reply-To: <000c01cd5d26$fed64c90$fc82e5b0$@net> References: <000c01cd5d26$fed64c90$fc82e5b0$@net> Message-ID: <181FCFA6-A062-444C-A514-9523DC97D1C7@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_Wtf/XXXChJ0AmUzvVWbN4w) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Gary, There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in poor c= ondition. Most have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft market c= onditions are favoring 45-50. Not a professional... Art On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore wrote: > As =E2=80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone intereste= d in my Frers 33. > =20 > In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, what has been the current asking p= rices for a Frers 33? > =20 > Gary Moore >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16970) > http://www.pctools.com > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --Boundary_(ID_Wtf/XXXChJ0AmUzvVWbN4w) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

Gary,

There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in p= oor condition. Most have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft= market conditions are favoring 45-50.

Not a profes= sional...

Art

On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore &= lt;garymoore@optonline.net>= ; wrote:

As =E2=80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone in= terested in my Frers 33.

In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, what h= as been the current asking prices for a Frers 33?

Gary Moore=

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= --Boundary_(ID_Wtf/XXXChJ0AmUzvVWbN4w)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Sun Jul 8 23:29:20 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Neal Melanson) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2012 18:29:20 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price In-Reply-To: <181FCFA6-A062-444C-A514-9523DC97D1C7@optonline.net> References: <000c01cd5d26$fed64c90$fc82e5b0$@net> <181FCFA6-A062-444C-A514-9523DC97D1C7@optonline.net> Message-ID: --e89a8f2345895289f504c45907a7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will happily take $40k for mine - Vapor Trail - fast, dry, and fair lightweight hull #2, tiller steering. Spiffy clean. Lying Rowley Ma. Neal Melanson 978 948 7189 On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Arthur Kelley wrote= : > Gary, > > There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in > poor condition. Most have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft > market conditions are favoring 45-50. > > Not a professional... > > Art > > On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore wrote: > > As =91word of mouth=92 would have it, I have someone interested in my Fre= rs 33. > **** > > ** ** > > In keeping up the Class=92s value, what has been the current asking price= s > for a Frers 33?**** > > ** ** > > Gary Moore**** > > > > > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. > (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16970) > http://www.pctools.com > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > --=20 Neal Melanson 89 Central St. Rowley Ma. 01969 978 948 7189 --e89a8f2345895289f504c45907a7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I will happily take $40k for mine - Vapor Trail - fast, dry, and fair = lightweight hull #2, tiller steering.=A0 Spiffy clean.=A0 Lying Rowley Ma.<= /div>

=A0

Neal Melanson

=A0

978 948 7189<= br>

On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 4:33 PM, Arthur Kel= ley <akelley@optonline.net> wrote:

Gary,

There is one l= isted on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in poor condition. Mo= st have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft market conditio= ns are favoring 45-50.

Not a professional...

Art

On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore <garymoore@optonline.net&= gt; wrote:

As =91word of mouth=92 would have it, I have someone interested in my = Frers 33.
=A0
In keeping up the Class=92s value, what has been the current asking prices = for a Frers 33?
=A0
Gary Moore

=
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Neal Melanson

89 Central St.

Rowley = Ma. 01969

=A0

978 948 7189

--e89a8f2345895289f504c45907a7-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Jul 9 15:57:39 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Mark Doheny) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:57:39 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Branford Regatta Message-ID: <005e01cd5de3$3076bde0$916439a0$@currentcomposites.com> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01CD5DC1.A966A480 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To all those coming to the Branford Regatta, Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta! You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to. Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it. Looking for a great turn out, see you all there. Marc Doheny BYC ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01CD5DC1.A966A480 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

To all = those coming to the Branford Regatta,

Kattack will = be available for the Branford Regatta!

You will = need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to.

Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I = understand it.

Looking for = a great turn out, see you all there.

Marc = Doheny

BYC

------=_NextPart_000_005F_01CD5DC1.A966A480-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Jul 9 16:18:10 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 08:18:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price In-Reply-To: <181FCFA6-A062-444C-A514-9523DC97D1C7@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1341847090.63329.YahooMailClassic@web82907.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ---1508350697-1511458023-1341847090=:63329 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0 Actually the boat in Annapolis is in pretty nice shape.=C2=A0 It's sails ar= e old and would need to be replaced to race the boat, and the electronics a= re minimal, but the boat it's self looks great. =C2=A0 Frank Albert --- On Sun, 7/8/12, Arthur Kelley wrote: From: Arthur Kelley Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:33 PM Gary, There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in poor= condition. Most have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft marke= t conditions are favoring 45-50. Not a professional... Art On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore wrote: As =E2=80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone interested= in my Frers 33. =C2=A0 In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, what has been the current asking p= rices for a Frers 33? =C2=A0 Gary Moore =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16970) http://www.pctools.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ---1508350697-1511458023-1341847090=:63329 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Actually the boat in Annapolis is in pretty nice shape. It's sai= ls are old and would need to be replaced to race the boat, and the electron= ics are minimal, but the boat it's self looks great.

Frank Albert

--- On Sun, 7/8/12, Arthur Kelley <akelle= y@optonline.net> wrote:

From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>=
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price
To: "fre= rs-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Date: Su= nday, July 8, 2012, 4:33 PM

Gary,

There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in= poor condition. Most have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the s= oft market conditions are favoring 45-50.

Not a professional...

Art

On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore <garymoore@opton= line.net> wrote:

As =E2=80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would = have it, I have someone interested in my Frers 33.

In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, = what has been the current asking prices for a Frers 33?

Gary Moore

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<= /td>

---1508350697-1511458023-1341847090=:63329-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Jul 9 17:56:49 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Ted Dombroski) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 09:56:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price Message-ID: <1341853009.53449.YahooMailRC@web181205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> ---1067797826-474023721-1341853009=:53449 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I looked at the boat in Annapolis 2 years ago soon after it was listed. As = frank =0Astated it's not in bad shape but lacked any upgrades for sails and= electronics. =0AThe interior was decent and in general the boat looked li= ke it hadn't seen much =0Amaintenance. The hull had been finished with Awl= grip about 10 years prior and =0Awas quite faded. Had I not found a better= boat locally, I was seriously =0Aconsidering making an offer. At the time= the asking price was low 40's.=0A=0A Ted Dombroski, Architect=0ADOMBROSKI = ARCHITECTS, llc.=0A71 Whitfield Street Suite C=0AGuilford, CT. 06437=0AT 20= 3-453-8606=0AC 203-589-9674=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________= =0AFrom: FRANCIS ALBERT =0ATo: frers-list@lists.frers= 33.com=0ASent: Mon, July 9, 2012 11:19:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: [frers-list]Fre= rs 33 asking price=0A=0A=0A =0AActually the boat in Annapolis is in pretty = nice shape. It's sails are old and =0Awould need to be replaced to race th= e boat, and the electronics are minimal, but =0Athe boat it's self looks gr= eat.=0A =0AFrank Albert=0A=0A--- On Sun, 7/8/12, Arthur Kelley wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: Arthur Kelley =0A>= Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price=0A>To: "frers-list@lists.fre= rs33.com" =0A>Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:3= 3 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>Gary,=0A>=0A>=0A>There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k = but I suspect that one is in poor =0A>condition. Most have listed between 4= 5k & 55k but I suspect the soft market =0A>conditions are favoring 45-50.= =0A>=0A>=0A>Not a professional...=0A>=0A>Art=0A>=0A>On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:3= 0 PM, Gary Moore wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A> =0A>>As =E2= =80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone interested in my= Frers 33.=0A>> =0A>>In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, what has been= the current asking prices for a =0A>>Frers 33?=0A> =0A>Gary Moore=0A>=0A>= =0A>=0A>=0A>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A>Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses= or spyware found.=0A>(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.169= 70)=0A>http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=3DEmailFooterClean_51=0A>=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D ---1067797826-474023721-1341853009=:53449 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=0A

I looked at the boat in Annapolis 2 years ago soon after it was listed. = As frank stated it's not in bad shape but lacked any upgrades for sails and= electronics. The interior was decent and in general the boat looked = like it hadn't seen much maintenance. The hull had been finished with= Awlgrip about 10 years prior and was quite faded. Had I not found a = better boat locally, I was seriously considering making an offer. At = the time the asking price was low 40's.

Ted Dombroski, = Architect
DOMBROSKI ARCHITECTS, llc.
71 Whitfield Street Suite C
G= uilford, CT. 06437
T 203-453-8606
C 203-589-9674

From: FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@p= rodigy.net>
To:=0A fr= ers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Mon, July 9, 2012 11:19:05 AM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price
=0A

=0A

Actually th= e boat in Annapolis is in pretty nice shape. It's sails are old and w= ould need to be replaced to race the boat, and the electronics are minimal,= but the boat it's self looks great.

=0A

Frank= Albert

--- On Sun, 7/8/12, Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonlin= e.net> wrote:

=0A

From: Arthur Kel= ley <akelley@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]= Frers 33 asking price
To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@= lists.frers33.com>
Date: Sunday, July 8, 2012, 4:33 PM

=0A=0A
=0A
Gary,
=0A

=0A
= There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in poor= condition. Most have listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft m= arket conditions are favoring 45-50.
=0A

=0A
Not a p= rofessional...

Art
=0A

On Jul 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gar= y Moore <garymoore@optonline.= net> wrote:

=0A
=0A
= =0A
=0A=0A=0A
=0A
As= =E2=80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone interested i= n my Frers 33.
=0A

=0A
In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99= s value, what has been the current asking prices for a Frers 33?
=0A

=0A
Gary Moore

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
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---1067797826-474023721-1341853009=:53449-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Jul 9 18:06:00 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Richard Saunders) Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 10:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price In-Reply-To: <1341853009.53449.YahooMailRC@web181205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1341853009.53449.YahooMailRC@web181205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1341853560.53931.YahooMailRC@web184802.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --220256174-1465987030-1341853560=:53931 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Note also that the mast step on that boat seems to=C2=A0have had=C2=A0a pre= tty =0Arobust=C2=A0reinforcement job.=C2=A0 =0A=0A=0ADick Saunders=0AOut of= Reach=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Ted Dombroski =0ATo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=0ASent: Mon, July 9, 2012 12:= 57:04 PM=0ASubject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price=0A=0A=0AI looked = at the boat in Annapolis 2 years ago soon after it was listed. As frank =0A= stated it's not in bad shape but lacked any upgrades for sails and electron= ics.=C2=A0 =0AThe interior was decent and in general the boat looked like i= t hadn't seen much =0Amaintenance.=C2=A0 The hull had been finished with Aw= lgrip about 10 years prior and =0Awas quite faded.=C2=A0 Had I not found a = better boat locally, I was seriously =0Aconsidering making an offer.=C2=A0 = At the time the asking price was low 40's.=0A=0ATed Dombroski, Architect=0A= DOMBROSKI ARCHITECTS, llc.=0A71 Whitfield Street Suite C=0AGuilford, CT. 06= 437=0AT 203-453-8606=0AC 203-589-9674 =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________= __________=0AFrom: FRANCIS ALBERT =0ATo: frers-list@l= ists.frers33.com=0ASent: Mon, July 9, 2012 11:19:05 AM=0ASubject: Re: [frer= s-list]Frers 33 asking price=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AActually the boat in Annapolis i= s in pretty nice shape.=C2=A0 It's sails are old and =0Awould need to be re= placed to race the boat, and the electronics are minimal, but =0Athe boat i= t's self looks great.=0A=0AFrank Albert=0A=0A--- On Sun, 7/8/12, Arthur Kel= ley wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: Arthur Kelley =0A>Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price=0A>To: "frer= s-list@lists.frers33.com" =0A>Date: Sunday, J= uly 8, 2012, 4:33 PM=0A>=0A>=0A>Gary,=0A>=0A>=0A>There is one listed on Yac= htworld for 35k but I suspect that one is in poor =0A>condition. Most have = listed between 45k & 55k but I suspect the soft market =0A>conditions are f= avoring 45-50.=0A>=0A>=0A>Not a professional...=0A>=0A>Art=0A>=0A>On Jul 8,= 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>= As =E2=80=98word of mouth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone interested= in my Frers 33.=0A>>=C2=A0=0A>>In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, wh= at has been the current asking prices for a =0A>>Frers 33?=0A>=C2=A0=0A>Gar= y Moore=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=0A>Email scanned by PC Too= ls - No viruses or spyware found.=0A>(Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware = Database: 6.16970)=0A>http://www.pctools.com/?cclick=3DEmailFooterClean_51= =0A>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D --220256174-1465987030-1341853560=:53931 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Note also that the mast step on that boat seems to have ha= d a pretty robust reinforcement job.

=0A

Dick Sau= nders

=0A

Out of Reach

=0A

= =0A

=0AFrom: Te= d Dombroski <dombarch@att.net>
Sent: Mon, July 9, 2012 12:57:04 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers 33 asking = price

=0A

I looked at the boat in Annapoli= s 2 years ago soon after it was listed. As frank stated it's not in bad sha= pe but lacked any upgrades for sails and electronics. The interior wa= s decent and in general the boat looked like it hadn't seen much maintenanc= e. The hull had been finished with Awlgrip about 10 years prior and w= as quite faded. Had I not found a better boat locally, I was seriousl= y considering making an offer. At the time the asking price was low 4= 0's.
=0A

Ted Dombroski, Architect
DOMBROSKI ARCHITECT= S, llc.
71 Whitfield Street Suite C
Guilford, CT. 06437
T 203-453-= 8606
C 203-589-9674 =0A

=0A

=0AFrom:= FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Mon, July 9, 2012 11:19:05= AM
Subject: Re: [frers-= list]Frers 33 asking price

=0A=0A=0A=0A

=0A

Actually the boat in Annapolis is in pretty nice shape. It= 's sails are old and would need to be replaced to race the boat, and the el= ectronics are minimal, but the boat it's self looks great.

=0A

&nb= sp;

=0A

Frank Albert

--- On Sun, 7/8/12, Arthur Kelley <= I><akelley@optonline.net> wrote:

=0A

From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>
Subject: Re:= [frers-list]Frers 33 asking price
To: "frers-list@lists.fr= ers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Date: Sunday, July 8, 20= 12, 4:33 PM

=0A
=0A
=0A
Gary,
= =0A

=0A
There is one listed on Yachtworld for 35k but I s= uspect that one is in poor condition. Most have listed between 45k & 55= k but I suspect the soft market conditions are favoring 45-50.
=0A
=0A
Not a professional...

Art
=0A

On Jul= 8, 2012, at 12:30 PM, Gary Moore <garymoore@optonline.net> wrote:

=0A
=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A
=0A
As =E2=80=98word of mo= uth=E2=80=99 would have it, I have someone interested in my Frers 33.
=0A

=0A
In keeping up the Class=E2=80=99s value, what has been t= he current asking prices for a Frers 33?

=0A

Gary Moore

=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D
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--220256174-1465987030-1341853560=:53931-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Mon Jul 9 23:30:30 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Branford Regatta In-Reply-To: <005e01cd5de3$3076bde0$916439a0$@currentcomposites.com> References: <005e01cd5de3$3076bde0$916439a0$@currentcomposites.com> Message-ID: <7D328FA2-650A-47FF-BF6E-D1C41C40537A@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_PwxdOYJn+O8Q2bsUQuvv2Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Folks, This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom experience on the circuit! Art On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny wrote: > To all those coming to the Branford Regatta, > > Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta! > > You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to. > Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it. > > Looking for a great turn out, see you all there. > > Marc Doheny > BYC --Boundary_(ID_PwxdOYJn+O8Q2bsUQuvv2Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Folks,

This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom experience on the circuit!

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny <MDoheny@currentcomposites.com> wrote:

To all those coming to the Branford Regatta,

Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta!

You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to.
Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it.

Looking for a great turn out, see you all there.

Marc Doheny
BYC

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charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT It is a race tracking system. Check out www.kattrack.com or www.ecsa.net for samples and an explanation. Bottom line, if someone on the boat has an iPhone or Android phone you can purchase the software for $10 (or rent one of their GPS units for more) but the software will track your position and load it up to their system. After the race you can play it all back at accelerated speed to see what everyone did, and figure out what you did right or wrong. You may have seen similar system used in America's Cup broadcasts over the years. This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the cheap smart phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant be beat. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to the system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's like getting coachin time for $10! Unfortunately Scott, they do not support your Blackberry. I suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by the nav station and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may chew through the battery fairly quickly with the GPS running constantly. Art On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote: > Please explain what it is, how it works, and how we can use it. > > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > From: Arthur Kelley > Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com > Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400 > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta > > Folks, > > This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom experience on the circuit! > > Art > > On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny wrote: > >> To all those coming to the Branford Regatta, >> >> Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta! >> >> You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to. >> Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it. >> >> Looking for a great turn out, see you all there. >> >> Marc Doheny >> BYC --Boundary_(ID_c862vakOrSSGT9MfCkEtoA) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

It is a race tracking syst= em. Check out www.kattrack.com or www.ecsa.net for samples and an explanatio= n. Bottom line, if someone on the boat has an iPhone or Android phone you ca= n purchase the software for $10 (or rent one of their GPS units for more) bu= t the software will track your position and load it up to their system. Afte= r the race you can play it all back at accelerated speed to see what everyon= e did, and figure out what you did right or wrong. You may have seen similar= system used in America's Cup broadcasts over the years.

This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the chea= p smart phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant b= e beat. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to t= he system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's like ge= tting coachin time for $10!

Unfortunately Scott, th= ey do not support your Blackberry.

I suspect it's beat to keep t= he unit below by the nav station and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It ma= y chew through the battery fairly quickly with the GPS running constantly.&n= bsp;

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote:

Please explain what it is, how it works= , and how we can use it.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>
Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.co= m<frers-list@lists.fr= ers33.com>
ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta

Folks,

This will be an outstanding additio= n to the learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to= sign up? Cheapest classroom experience on the circuit!

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny <MDoheny@currentcomposites.com> wrote:
To all those coming to the Branford Regatta,

Kattack will be a= vailable for the Branford Regatta!

You will need a Droid, iphone or ipa= d to download to.
Cost is $10 and is go= od for the entire year as I understand it.

Looking for a great turn out= , see you all there.
<= /p>
Marc Doheny
B= YC

= --Boundary_(ID_c862vakOrSSGT9MfCkEtoA)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 10 12:17:22 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Scott Marino) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 04:17:22 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Branford Regatta In-Reply-To: <9E2D8B58-6ECE-4BB6-B528-77FD59684866@optonline.net> References: <005e01cd5de3$3076bde0$916439a0$@currentcomposites.com> <7D328FA2-650A-47FF-BF6E-D1C41C40537A@optonline.net> <1043745865-1341882710-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-640559170-@b16.c10.bise6.blackberry> <9E2D8B58-6ECE-4BB6-B528-77FD59684866@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1341919042.17943.YahooMailNeo@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --735583711-563049178-1341919042=:17943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just downloaded the App to my iPhone.=A0=0A=A0=0ANo time to learn to use it= before Saturday.=A0 =0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Arth= ur Kelley =0ATo: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" =0ASent: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:58 PM=0ASubject:= Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta=0A=0A=0AIt is a race tracking system. Che= ck out http://www.kattrack.com/ or http://www.ecsa.net/ for samples and an = explanation. Bottom line, if someone on the boat has an iPhone or Android p= hone you can purchase the software for $10 (or rent one of their GPS units = for more) but the software will track your position and load it up to their= system. After the race you can play it all back at accelerated speed to se= e what everyone did, and figure out what you did right or wrong. You may ha= ve seen similar system used in America's Cup broadcasts over the years.=A0= =0A=0AThis used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the cheap sma= rt phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant be b= eat. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to the= system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's like get= ting coachin time for $10!=0A=0AUnfortunately Scott, they do not support yo= ur Blackberry.=A0=0A=0AI suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by the na= v station and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may chew through the bat= tery fairly quickly with the GPS running constantly.=A0=0A=0AArt=0A=0AOn Ju= l 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote:=0A=0A=0APlease explain= what it is, how it works, and how we can use it.=0A>=0A>=0A>Sent via Black= Berry by AT&T=0A>=0A>________________________________=0A>=0A>From: Arthur K= elley =0A>Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.co= m =0A>Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400=0A>To: frers-list@lists.frers33= .com=0A>ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com= =0A>Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta=0A>=0A>=0A>Folks,=0A>=0A>=0A= >This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that one-d= esign already is. Can we all agree to sign up? =A0Cheapest classroom experi= ence on the circuit!=0A>=0A>Art=0A>=0A>On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Do= heny wrote:=0A>=0A>=0A>To all those coming = to the Branford Regatta,=0A>>=A0=0A>>Kattack will be available for the Bran= ford Regatta!=0A>>=A0=0A>>You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download= to.=0A>>Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it.=0A= >>=A0=0A>>Looking for a great turn out, see you all there.=0A>>=A0=0A>>Marc= Doheny=0A>>BYC --735583711-563049178-1341919042=:17943 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just downloaded the App to my iPhone.&nbs= p;

No time to learn to use it before Saturday.

From:= Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>
To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <fr= ers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Sen= t: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta

It is a race tracking system. Check out http://www.kattrack.com/ or http://www.ecsa.= net/ for samples and an explanation. Bottom line, if someone on the boa= t has an iPhone or Android phone you can purchase the software for $10 (or = rent one of their GPS units for more) but the software will track your posi= tion and load it up to their system. After the race you can play it all bac= k at accelerated speed to see what everyone did, and figure out what you di= d right or wrong. You may have seen similar system used in America's Cup br= oadcasts over the years.

This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the cheap smar= t phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant be be= at. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to the = system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's like gett= ing coachin time for $10!

Unfortunately Scott, they do not support your Blackberry.
I suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by the nav station and plugged = into a cigarette lighter. It may chew through the battery fairly quickly wi= th the GPS running constantly.

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote:

Please explain what it is, how it works, and how we can use it.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From: Arthur Kelley <a= kelley@optonline.net>

Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400

To: frers-l= ist@lists.frers33.com<frers-list@lists.frers33.com>

ReplyTo: fr= ers-list@lists.frers33.com

Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta

Folks,

This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that o= ne-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom= experience on the circuit!

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny <MDoheny@currentcomposites.com> wrot= e:

To all those coming to the Branford Rega= tta,

Kattack will be available for the Branfo= rd Regatta!

You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to= download to.

Cost is $10 and is good for the entire y= ear as I understand it.

Looking for a great turn out, see you al= l there.

Marc Doheny

BYC
=

--735583711-563049178-1341919042=:17943-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 10 12:38:07 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Arthur Kelley) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 07:38:07 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Branford Regatta In-Reply-To: <1341919042.17943.YahooMailNeo@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <005e01cd5de3$3076bde0$916439a0$@currentcomposites.com> <7D328FA2-650A-47FF-BF6E-D1C41C40537A@optonline.net> <1043745865-1341882710-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-640559170-@b16.c10.bise6.blackberry> <9E2D8B58-6ECE-4BB6-B528-77FD59684866@optonline.net> <1341919042.17943.YahooMailNeo@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <854EDC98-1C3A-49D1-B72A-550FBFDCBE15@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_EvkW5d8K8NrF+Nd/jem7fQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT All we need to do is connect to the proper feed and turn it on. I'm sure we can get the name of the feed by Friday. The RC will handle the rest! If you stop by BYC Friday afternoon/evening we can get it all sorted out. I hope to be there before 5. Art On Jul 10, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Scott Marino wrote: > Just downloaded the App to my iPhone. > > No time to learn to use it before Saturday. > > From: Arthur Kelley > To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" > Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta > > It is a race tracking system. Check out http://www.kattrack.com/ or http://www.ecsa.net/ for samples and an explanation. Bottom line, if someone on the boat has an iPhone or Android phone you can purchase the software for $10 (or rent one of their GPS units for more) but the software will track your position and load it up to their system. After the race you can play it all back at accelerated speed to see what everyone did, and figure out what you did right or wrong. You may have seen similar system used in America's Cup broadcasts over the years. > > This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the cheap smart phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant be beat. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to the system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's like getting coachin time for $10! > > Unfortunately Scott, they do not support your Blackberry. > > I suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by the nav station and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may chew through the battery fairly quickly with the GPS running constantly. > > Art > > On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote: > >> Please explain what it is, how it works, and how we can use it. >> >> Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T >> From: Arthur Kelley >> Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com >> Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400 >> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com >> ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com >> Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta >> >> Folks, >> >> This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom experience on the circuit! >> >> Art >> >> On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny wrote: >> >>> To all those coming to the Branford Regatta, >>> >>> Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta! >>> >>> You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to. >>> Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it. >>> >>> Looking for a great turn out, see you all there. >>> >>> Marc Doheny >>> BYC > > --Boundary_(ID_EvkW5d8K8NrF+Nd/jem7fQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
All we need to do is connect to the proper feed and turn it on. I'm sure we can get the name of the feed by Friday. The RC will handle the rest! If you stop by BYC Friday afternoon/evening we can get it all sorted out. I hope to be there before 5.

Art

On Jul 10, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Scott Marino <scottamarino@yahoo.com> wrote:

Just downloaded the App to my iPhone.

No time to learn to use it before Saturday.

From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>
To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta

It is a race tracking system. Check out http://www.kattrack.com/ or http://www.ecsa.net/ for samples and an explanation. Bottom line, if someone on the boat has an iPhone or Android phone you can purchase the software for $10 (or rent one of their GPS units for more) but the software will track your position and load it up to their system. After the race you can play it all back at accelerated speed to see what everyone did, and figure out what you did right or wrong. You may have seen similar system used in America's Cup broadcasts over the years.

This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the cheap smart phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant be beat. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to the system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's like getting coachin time for $10!

Unfortunately Scott, they do not support your Blackberry.

I suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by the nav station and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may chew through the battery fairly quickly with the GPS running constantly.

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote:

Please explain what it is, how it works, and how we can use it.

Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>

Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com

Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400

To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com<frers-list@lists.frers33.com>

ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com

Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta

Folks,

This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom experience on the circuit!

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny <MDoheny@currentcomposites.com> wrote:

To all those coming to the Branford Regatta,

Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta!

You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to.

Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it.

Looking for a great turn out, see you all there.

Marc Doheny

BYC

--Boundary_(ID_EvkW5d8K8NrF+Nd/jem7fQ)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 10 14:11:33 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Mark Doheny) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:11:33 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Branford Regatta In-Reply-To: <854EDC98-1C3A-49D1-B72A-550FBFDCBE15@optonline.net> References: <005e01cd5de3$3076bde0$916439a0$@currentcomposites.com> <7D328FA2-650A-47FF-BF6E-D1C41C40537A@optonline.net> <1043745865-1341882710-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-640559170-@b16.c10.bise6.blackberry> <9E2D8B58-6ECE-4BB6-B528-77FD59684866@optonline.net> <1341919042.17943.YahooMailNeo@web130206.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <854EDC98-1C3A-49D1-B72A-550FBFDCBE15@optonline.net> Message-ID: <005001cd5e9d$87a29cf0$96e7d6d0$@currentcomposites.com> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CD5E7C.009346E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable FYI for those not familiar with Kattack: =20 Go to the App Store on your Iphone Download the App from Kattack Might take a few minutes Once downloaded you can then register your boat Sailing area =3D ECSA =20 Turn on the Kattack App and select Turn Tracking On =20 Waiting to hear if Pine Orchard will be using it too, I presume they = will! =20 Best regards, =20 Marc Doheny BYC =20 =20 From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur Kelley Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:38 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta =20 All we need to do is connect to the proper feed and turn it on. I'm sure = we can get the name of the feed by Friday. The RC will handle the rest! = If you stop by BYC Friday afternoon/evening we can get it all sorted = out. I hope to be there before 5.=20 Art On Jul 10, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Scott Marino = wrote: Just downloaded the App to my iPhone.=20 =20 No time to learn to use it before Saturday. =20 =20 From: Arthur Kelley To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" =20 Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta =20 It is a race tracking system. Check out http://www.kattrack.com/ or = http://www.ecsa.net/ for samples and an explanation. Bottom line, if = someone on the boat has an iPhone or Android phone you can purchase the = software for $10 (or rent one of their GPS units for more) but the = software will track your position and load it up to their system. After = the race you can play it all back at accelerated speed to see what = everyone did, and figure out what you did right or wrong. You may have = seen similar system used in America's Cup broadcasts over the years.=20 =20 This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but with the cheap smart = phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is a deal that cant be = beat. This is probably the only event I will do this year with access to = the system so I am now officially jealous of all of you in ECSA. It's = like getting coachin time for $10! =20 Unfortunately Scott, they do not support your Blackberry.=20 I suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by the nav station and = plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may chew through the battery fairly = quickly with the GPS running constantly.=20 Art On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com wrote: Please explain what it is, how it works, and how we can use it. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T From: Arthur Kelley =20 Sender: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com=20 Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 -0400 To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta =20 Folks, =20 This will be an outstanding addition to the learning experience that = one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign up? Cheapest classroom = experience on the circuit! Art On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny = wrote: To all those coming to the Branford Regatta, =20 Kattack will be available for the Branford Regatta! =20 You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download to. Cost is $10 and is good for the entire year as I understand it. =20 Looking for a great turn out, see you all there. =20 Marc Doheny BYC =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CD5E7C.009346E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI for those not familiar with Kattack:

Go to the App Store on your Iphone
Download the App from Kattack
Might take a few minutes
Once downloaded you can then register your = boat
Sailing area =3D ECSA

Turn on the Kattack App and select Turn Tracking = On

Waiting to hear if Pine Orchard will be using it too, I presume they = will!

Best regards,

Marc Doheny
BYC

From:= = frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Arthur = Kelley
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 7:38 AM
To: = frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford = Regatta

All we = need to do is connect to the proper feed and turn it on. I'm sure we can = get the name of the feed by Friday. The RC will handle the rest! = If you stop by BYC Friday afternoon/evening we can get it all = sorted out. I hope to be there before = 5.

Art

On Jul 10, 2012, at 7:17 AM, Scott = Marino <scottamarino@yahoo.com> = wrote:

Just downloaded the App to my = iPhone.

No time to learn to use it before Saturday. =

F= rom: = Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>
To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com= " <frers-list@lists.frers33.com= >
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 9:58 = PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Branford Regatta

It is a race = tracking system. Check out http://www.kattrack.com/ or http://www.ecsa.net/ = for samples and an explanation. Bottom line, if someone on the boat has = an iPhone or Android phone you can purchase the software for $10 (or = rent one of their GPS units for more) but the software will track your = position and load it up to their system. After the race you can play it = all back at accelerated speed to see what everyone did, and figure out = what you did right or wrong. You may have seen similar system used in = America's Cup broadcasts over the = years.

This used to be a fairly expensive proposition but = with the cheap smart phone software and ECSA's deal with Kattack, it is = a deal that cant be beat. This is probably the only event I will do this = year with access to the system so I am now officially jealous of all of = you in ECSA. It's like getting coachin time for = $10!

Unfortunately Scott, they do not support your = Blackberry.

I suspect it's beat to keep the unit below by = the nav station and plugged into a cigarette lighter. It may chew = through the battery fairly quickly with the GPS running = constantly.

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:11 PM, scottamarino@yahoo.com = wrote:
Please explain what it is, how it works, and how = we can use it.
Sent via = BlackBerry by AT&T
From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net> =
Sender: = frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
Date: = Mon, 09 Jul 2012 18:30:30 = -0400
To: = frers-list@lists.frers33.com<frers-list@lists.frers33.com><= /p>
ReplyTo: frers-list@lists.frers33.com =
Subject: = Re: [frers-list]Branford = Regatta

Folks,

This will be an outstanding addition to the = learning experience that one-design already is. Can we all agree to sign = up? Cheapest classroom experience on the = circuit!

Art

On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Mark Doheny = <MDoheny@currentcomposites.com> = wrote:
To all those coming to the Branford = Regatta,

Kattack will be available for the Branford = Regatta!

You will need a Droid, iphone or ipad to download = to.
Cost is $10 and = is good for the entire year as I understand = it.

Looking for a great turn out, see you all = there.

Marc Doheny
BYC

------=_NextPart_000_0051_01CD5E7C.009346E0-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 10 14:13:36 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Edgar Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 09:13:36 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Re: Branford Regatta Message-ID: --Apple-Mail-2-694079985 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Pachyderm is in. We've been using Kattack for every race this season. We = use it on an iPhone. It does draw on the battery, but it has easily = lasted through our races. Just charge up your phone before heading out, = and remember to turn on the tracker before the start. It should last the = day. I keep my phone in a little dry bag tied on to the binnacle. We get = perfect tracks. I've noticed some boats have uneven tracks and I'd guess = they are getting poor GPS reception by having the phone stowed below. = When you set it up you just name your boat and choose the ECSA feed. I = think they take care of matching you with the individual races. (Someone = correct me if I'm forgetting anything). It is really fun to see the = raced play back and as on friend put it "see where the wheels fell off". = I've also used it to resolve two informal protests one while while we = were race committee and one where we were fouled at a mark and disagreed = with the other boat on the circumstances. In both cases, the track = showed exactly what happened in amazing detail. To see the race you just = go to the website the next day and click on browse all races click the = Eastern Connecticut Sailing Association link and click the link for the = race. By the way, you can see your own track during the race, but you = only see the other boats the next day. =20 --Apple-Mail-2-694079985 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

= --Apple-Mail-2-694079985-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 10 18:20:01 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Edgar Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 13:20:01 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Kattack trackers available References: Message-ID: Mark Fortin from Kattack mentioned he will have extra trackers on hand = this weekend. He'll be sailing With Bob Connell on Hearbeat if you don't = have an Android or iPhone. The news on the rumor mill is we have at least 7 boats signed up for = Saturday. So far I've heard that the following boats will be there. = Please correct or add to the list if you know more. Wolverine Pachyderm Audacious Sling Shot Heartbeat Brilliant Risoluto From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 10 20:49:04 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Mark Doheny) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 15:49:04 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard Message-ID: <008001cd5ed5$10b2a300$3217e900$@currentcomposites.com> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CD5EB3.89A10300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great news! Kattack WILL be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard! Just confirmed. So if you haven't signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI's for Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.org by tomorrow morning. You can email the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me know the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.com For Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI's as well. www.poycc.org Email Jason Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com See you all on the water! Marc Doheny BYC ------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CD5EB3.89A10300 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great = news!

Kattack WILL be available for both Branford and Pine = Orchard!

Just confirmed.

So if you = haven’t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI’s = for Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.org by tomorrow = morning.
You can email the form to me = and I will get it submitted, just let me know the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.c= om

For Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry = form and waiver and SI’s as well.
www.poycc.org
Email Jason Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com

See = you all on the water!

Marc = Doheny
BYC
------=_NextPart_000_0081_01CD5EB3.89A10300-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Jul 17 04:28:40 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (ARTHUR KELLEY) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard Message-ID: <573a2b7f.29afb.13892fb03d8.Webtop.14@optonline.net> --Boundary_(ID_j+CQQYqxY2mn6Dgo8hEBtQ) Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline Here are the tracks for last weekend's race. Look for "Frers 33=20 Nationals", 4 races. Enjoy, or cry and study, wherever you were in the=20 pack. I know I will be studying, and on the verge of tears. =20 http://kws.kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e= -8989-c67aed32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo=3DTrue Art On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote: Great news! Kattack WILL be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard! Just confirmed. So if you haven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI= =E2=80=99s for=20 Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.org=20 by tomorrow morning.=20 You can email the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me=20 know the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.com=20 =20 =20 For Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and=20 SI=E2=80=99s as well.=20 www.poycc.org Email Jason Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com=20 =20 =20 See you all on the water!=20 =20 Marc Doheny=20 BYC=20 --Boundary_(ID_j+CQQYqxY2mn6Dgo8hEBtQ) Content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Content-disposition: inline
Here are the tracks for last weekend's= race. Look for "Frers 33 Nationals", 4 races. Enjoy,= or cry and study, wherever you were in the pack. I know I will be st= udying, and on the verge of tears.

http://kws.kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtC= lubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e-8989-c67aed32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo= =3DTrue

Ar= t

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote:
Great news!
<= FONT SIZE=3D"2">
Kattack = WILL be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard!

Just confirmed.

So if you haven= =E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s for B= ranford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.org<= /A>by tomorrow morning.
You can email the form to me and I will get it submitted, j= ust let me know the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.com

For Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry form = and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s as well.
www.poycc.org
Email Jason Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com
<= DIV ALIGN=3D"LEFT">
See you all on t= he water!
=

Marc Doheny
BYC
= --Boundary_(ID_j+CQQYqxY2mn6Dgo8hEBtQ)-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Jul 18 02:28:39 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Scott Marino) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 18:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard In-Reply-To: <573a2b7f.29afb.13892fb03d8.Webtop.14@optonline.net> References: <573a2b7f.29afb.13892fb03d8.Webtop.14@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1342574919.83301.YahooMailNeo@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> ---5575541-931631724-1342574919=:83301 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey boys,=0A=C2=A0=0AGreat seeing you all in Branford this past weekend.=C2= =A0 I had a great view of all your boats from the back.=C2=A0 I remember th= inking how pretty those Frers are.=C2=A0 Well, there's always next year...= =0A=C2=A0=0AI've been thinking about how to make the event better for us Fr= ers One designers next year.=C2=A0 You know, in order to keep us coming bac= k even though we come in last... Here are my thoughts:=0A=C2=A0=0A1)=C2=A0 = Arrange to have all the boats docked together so the crew and owners can mi= ngle and check out the fleet. (and party together)=0A2)=C2=A0 Facilitate at= least one and preferably two clinics during the weekend focused on tactics= , strategy, tuning, or whatever we feel is most important.=C2=A0 Best in cl= ass are automatically nominated to speak.=C2=A0 Dave, Ed, and Bob that mean= s you.=0A3)=C2=A0 Arrange for a debrief after Saturday's race for all Frers= =C2=A0Captains and crews to talk about the race and the boats.=C2=A0 This c= ould be a great learning opportunity for all.=0A4)=C2=A0 Create an off-seas= on gathering that is education based and will make for a good social event.= =0A=C2=A0=0AI've also been thinking it might be nice to have a Frers 33 sum= mer series made up of three venues.=C2=A0 Whomever shows up for teh most ra= ces and has the best results gets the trophy.=C2=A0 Milford if hosting a Fr= ers 33 One design at the end of September and HBC (my club) is willing to h= ost our boats for a one design class in our annual race in early September.= =C2=A0 This is quite a bit of work for us but it gets the boats together mo= re often which helps the fleet grow.=0A=C2=A0=0ACan't wait 'til the next ti= me.=C2=A0=0A=C2=A0=0AScott=0ARisoluto=0A=0A=0A_____________________________= ___=0AFrom: ARTHUR KELLEY =0ATo: frers-list@lists.fr= ers33.com =0ASent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:28 PM=0ASubject: RE: [frers-lis= t]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard=0A=0A=0A=C2=A0Here are the tracks for las= t weekend's race.=C2=A0 Look for "Frers 33 Nationals", 4 races.=C2=A0 Enjoy= , or cry and study, wherever you were in the pack.=C2=A0 I know I will be s= tudying, and on the verge of tears.=0A=0Ahttp://kws.kattack.com/player/rega= tta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e-8989-c67aed32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&= bLogo=3DTrue=0A=0AArt=0A=0A=0AOn Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny = wrote:=0A=0A=C2=A0Great news! =0A=C2=A0 =0AKattack WILL be available for bo= th Branford and Pine Orchard! =0A=C2=A0 =0AJust confirmed. =0A=C2=A0 =0ASo = if you haven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2= =80=99s for Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.org= by tomorrow morning. =0AYou can email the form to me and I will get it subm= itted, just let me know the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.com= =0A=C2=A0 =0AFor Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and w= aiver and SI=E2=80=99s as well. =0Awww.poycc.org=0AEmail Jason Swan: Swanj@= santaenergy.com=0A=C2=A0 =0ASee you all on the water! =0A=C2=A0 =0AMarc Doh= eny =0ABYC ---5575541-931631724-1342574919=:83301 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey boys,

Great seeing you all= in Branford this past weekend. I had a great view of all your boats = from the back. I remember thinking how pretty those Frers are. = Well, there's always next year...

I've been thinking a= bout how to make the event better for us Frers One designers next year.&nbs= p; You know, in order to keep us coming back even though we come in last...= Here are my thoughts:

1) Arrange to = have all the boats docked together so the crew and owners can mingle and ch= eck out the fleet. (and party together)

2) Facilitate = at least one and preferably two clinics during the weekend focused on tacti= cs, strategy, tuning, or whatever we feel is most important. Best in = class are automatically nominated to speak. Dave, Ed, and Bob that me= ans you.

3) Arrange for= a debrief after Saturday's race for all Frers Captains and crews to t= alk about the race and the boats. This could be a great learning oppo= rtunity for all.

4) Create an o= ff-season gathering that is education based and will make for a good social= event.

I've also been think= ing it might be nice to have a Frers 33 summer series made up of three venu= es. Whomever shows up for teh most races and has the best results get= s the trophy. Milford if hosting a Frers 33 One design at the end of = September and HBC (my club) is willing to host our boats for a one design c= lass in our annual race in early September. This is quite a bit of wo= rk for us but it gets the boats together more often which helps the fleet g= row.

Can't wait 'til the = next time.

Scott

Risoluto

From:= ARTHUR KELLEY <akelley@optonline.net>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
<= SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:= 28 PM
Subject: RE: [frer= s-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard

Here = are the tracks for last weekend's race. Look for "Frers 33 Nationals"= , 4 races. Enjoy, or cry and study, wherever you were in the pack.&nb= sp; I know I will be studying, and on the verge of tears.

http://kws.= kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e-8989-c67ae= d32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo=3DTrue

Art<= /DIV>

On Tue, Jul= 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote:

Great news!

Kattack WIL= L be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard!

Just confir= med.

So if you h= aven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s f= or Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.bra= nfordyc.orgby tomorrow morning. =

You can ema= il the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me know the payment= details: mdoheny@curr= entcomposites.com

For Pine Or= chard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s a= s well.

www.poycc.org<= /A>

Email Jason= Swan: Swanj@santaener= gy.com

See you all= on the water!

Marc Doheny=

BYC

---5575541-931631724-1342574919=:83301-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Jul 18 03:11:38 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Robert Connell) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 19:11:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard In-Reply-To: <573a2b7f.29afb.13892fb03d8.Webtop.14@optonline.net> Message-ID: <1342577498.35591.YahooMailClassic@web161206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> --1938299484-1829889419-1342577498=:35591 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Art, some of us still are not fast enough for Wolverine. We have our= work cut out for us next year. --- On Mon, 7/16/12, ARTHUR KELLEY wrote: From: ARTHUR KELLEY Subject: RE: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 11:28 PM =C2=A0Here are the tracks for last weekend's race.=C2=A0 Look for "Frers 33= Nationals", 4 races.=C2=A0 Enjoy, or cry and study, wherever you were in t= he pack.=C2=A0 I know I will be studying, and on the verge of tears. http://kws.kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e= -8989-c67aed32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo=3DTrue Art On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote: =C2=A0Great news!=20 =C2=A0=20 Kattack WILL be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard!=20 =C2=A0=20 Just confirmed.=20 =C2=A0=20 So if you haven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI= =E2=80=99s for Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.= orgby tomorrow morning.=20 You can email the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me know = the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.com =C2=A0=20 For Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI= =E2=80=99s as well.=20 www.poycc.org Email Jason Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com =C2=A0=20 See you all on the water!=20 =C2=A0=20 Marc Doheny=20 BYC --1938299484-1829889419-1342577498=:35591 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Art, some of us still are not fast eno= ugh for Wolverine. We have our work cut out for us next year.

--- On= Mon, 7/16/12, ARTHUR KELLEY <akelley@optonline.net> wr= ote:

From: ARTHUR KELLEY <akelley@optonline.net>=
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard
To: fre= rs-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Monday, July 16, 2012, 11:28 PM

Here = are the tracks for last weekend's race. Look for "Frers 33 Nationals"= , 4 races. Enjoy, or cry and study, wherever you were in the pack.&nb= sp; I know I will be studying, and on the verge of tears.

http://kws.= kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e-8989-c67ae= d32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo=3DTrue

Art<= /DIV>

On Tue, Jul= 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote:

Great news!

Kattack WIL= L be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard!

Just confir= med.

So if you h= aven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s f= or Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.bra= nfordyc.orgby tomorrow morning. =

You can ema= il the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me know the payment= details: mdoheny@currentcomposi= tes.com

For Pine Or= chard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s a= s well.

www.poycc.org<= /A>

Email Jason= Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com=

See you all= on the water!

Marc Doheny=

BYC
--1938299484-1829889419-1342577498=:35591-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Wed Jul 18 12:36:31 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Rod Stright) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:36:31 -0300 Subject: [frers-list]Scott's Suggestions Message-ID: <001901cd64d9$9420f0c0$bc62d240$@ca> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CD64C0.6ED3B8C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Great suggestions Scott. Kattack looks like a great tool to add to the process of post race analysis as well as self analysis. The only missing elements are wind speed and direction. Rod ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CD64C0.6ED3B8C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great = suggestions Scott. Kattack looks like a great tool to add to the = process of post race analysis as well as self analysis. The only = missing elements are wind speed and direction.

Rod
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01CD64C0.6ED3B8C0-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Jul 19 03:03:01 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Robert Connell) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 19:03:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard In-Reply-To: <1342574919.83301.YahooMailNeo@web130202.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1342663381.63261.YahooMailClassic@web161201.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> --1261493821-1844387710-1342663381=:63261 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Scott, I think that is a great idea to get all of us to put our thoughts to= gether to discuss how the day went, and what we can do to help each other t= o advance in the class. Maybe we could help each other get the rigs tuned a= nd the boats set up prior to the regatta. it would be nice to have the=C2= =A0boats tighter together in the upwind legs and get the boat speeds more e= ven. My personal experience is that the boats performance is better when sa= iling with a Tuff Luff or Harken twin stay vs sailing with the full harken = R/F foil. It was noticable as the front 3 boats sailed with the lighter hea= dstay. We have the option of=C2=A0 both, one for racing the other for cruis= ing. the boats with the newer sails seem to have an=C2=A0advantage upwind. = our spin=C2=A0is now 5 years old and still had good down wind performance.= =C2=A0We sailed with our uppers at 37-40, for this event, D2,s at 10=C2=A0a= nd d1,s at 10, backstay between 1000-1200. Hope these ideas help everybody.= It was a fun event for us, would have liked to have done better, but nice to sail as a one de= sign vs PHRF. Hope to see all that participated soon or next year. Maybe we= can have=C2=A0gathering over the of season. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Best to all,=20 =C2=A0 Bob=C2=A0=C2=A0 --- On Tue, 7/17/12, Scott Marino wrote: From: Scott Marino Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" Date: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:28 PM Hey boys, =C2=A0 Great seeing you all in Branford this past weekend.=C2=A0 I had a great vie= w of all your boats from the back.=C2=A0 I remember thinking how pretty tho= se Frers are.=C2=A0 Well, there's always next year... =C2=A0 I've been thinking about how to make the event better for us Frers One desi= gners next year.=C2=A0 You know, in order to keep us coming back even thoug= h we come in last... Here are my thoughts: =C2=A0 1)=C2=A0 Arrange to have all the boats docked together so the crew and owne= rs can mingle and check out the fleet. (and party together) 2)=C2=A0 Facilitate at least one and preferably two clinics during the week= end focused on tactics, strategy, tuning, or whatever we feel is most impor= tant.=C2=A0 Best in class are automatically nominated to speak.=C2=A0 Dave,= Ed, and Bob that means you. 3)=C2=A0 Arrange for a debrief after Saturday's race for all Frers=C2=A0Cap= tains and crews to talk about the race and the boats.=C2=A0 This could be a= great learning opportunity for all. 4)=C2=A0 Create an off-season gathering that is education based and will ma= ke for a good social event. =C2=A0 I've also been thinking it might be nice to have a Frers 33 summer series m= ade up of three venues.=C2=A0 Whomever shows up for teh most races and has = the best results gets the trophy.=C2=A0 Milford if hosting a Frers 33 One d= esign at the end of September and HBC (my club) is willing to host our boat= s for a one design class in our annual race in early September.=C2=A0 This = is quite a bit of work for us but it gets the boats together more often whi= ch helps the fleet grow. =C2=A0 Can't wait 'til the next time.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Scott Risoluto From: ARTHUR KELLEY To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=20 Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:28 PM Subject: RE: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pine Orchard =C2=A0Here are the tracks for last weekend's race.=C2=A0 Look for "Frers 33= Nationals", 4 races.=C2=A0 Enjoy, or cry and study, wherever you were in t= he pack.=C2=A0 I know I will be studying, and on the verge of tears. http://kws.kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e= -8989-c67aed32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo=3DTrue Art On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote: =C2=A0Great news!=20 =C2=A0=20 Kattack WILL be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard!=20 =C2=A0=20 Just confirmed.=20 =C2=A0=20 So if you haven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI= =E2=80=99s for Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.branfordyc.= orgby tomorrow morning.=20 You can email the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me know = the payment details: mdoheny@currentcomposites.com =C2=A0=20 For Pine Orchard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI= =E2=80=99s as well.=20 www.poycc.org Email Jason Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com =C2=A0=20 See you all on the water!=20 =C2=A0=20 Marc Doheny=20 BYC=20 --1261493821-1844387710-1342663381=:63261 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Scott, I think that is a great idea to g= et all of us to put our thoughts together to discuss how the day went, and = what we can do to help each other to advance in the class. Maybe we could h= elp each other get the rigs tuned and the boats set up prior to the regatta= . it would be nice to have the boats tighter together in the upwind le= gs and get the boat speeds more even. My personal experience is that the bo= ats performance is better when sailing with a Tuff Luff or Harken twin stay= vs sailing with the full harken R/F foil. It was noticable as the front 3 = boats sailed with the lighter headstay. We have the option of both, o= ne for racing the other for cruising. the boats with the newer sails seem t= o have an advantage upwind. our spin is now 5 years old and still= had good down wind performance. We sailed with our uppers at 37-40, f= or this event, D2,s at 10 and d1,s at 10, backstay between 1000-1200. Ho= pe these ideas help everybody.It was a fun event for us, would have liked t= o have done better, but nice to sail as a one design vs PHRF. Hope to see a= ll that participated soon or next year. Maybe we can have gathering ov= er the of season.

Best to all,

Bob

--- On Tue, 7/17/12, Scott Marino <sco= ttamarino@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Scott Marino <scottamarino@yahoo.com>=
Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard
To:= "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Dat= e: Tuesday, July 17, 2012, 9:28 PM

Hey boys,

Great seeing you all in Branford this past weekend. I had = a great view of all your boats from the back. I remember thinking how= pretty those Frers are. Well, there's always next year...

I've been thinking about how to make the event better for us Fre= rs One designers next year. You know, in order to keep us coming back= even though we come in last... Here are my thoughts:

1) Arrange to have all the boats docked together so the cr= ew and owners can mingle and check out the fleet. (and party together)

2) Facilitate at least one and preferably two clinics duri= ng the weekend focused on tactics, strategy, tuning, or whatever we feel is= most important. Best in class are automatically nominated to speak.&= nbsp; Dave, Ed, and Bob that means you.

3) Arrange for a debrief after Saturday's race for all Fre= rs Captains and crews to talk about the race and the boats. This= could be a great learning opportunity for all.

4) Create an off-season gathering that is education based = and will make for a good social event.

I've also been thinking it might be nice to have a Frers 33 summ= er series made up of three venues. Whomever shows up for teh most rac= es and has the best results gets the trophy. Milford if hosting a Fre= rs 33 One design at the end of September and HBC (my club) is willing to ho= st our boats for a one design class in our annual race in early September.&= nbsp; This is quite a bit of work for us but it gets the boats together mor= e often which helps the fleet grow.

Can't wait 'til the next time.

Scott

Risoluto

From: ARTHUR KELLEY <a= kelley@optonline.net>
To:= frers-list@lists.frers33.com
= Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:28 PM
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Kattack Branford & Pin= e Orchard

Here = are the tracks for last weekend's race. Look for "Frers 33 Nationals"= , 4 races. Enjoy, or cry and study, wherever you were in the pack.&nb= sp; I know I will be studying, and on the verge of tears.

http://kws.= kattack.com/player/regatta.aspx?YachtClubID=3Dabe6c0c0-1631-463e-8989-c67ae= d32dee9&bBanner=3DTrue&bLogo=3DTrue

Art<= /DIV>

On Tue, Jul= 10, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Mark Doheny wrote:

Great news!

Kattack WIL= L be available for both Branford and Pine Orchard!

Just confir= med.

So if you h= aven=E2=80=99t signed up, the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s f= or Branford will be on the Branford YC website, www.bra= nfordyc.orgby tomorrow morning. =

You can ema= il the form to me and I will get it submitted, just let me know the payment= details: mdoheny@currentcomposi= tes.com

For Pine Or= chard, their web site has the NOR, entry form and waiver and SI=E2=80=99s a= s well.

www.poycc.org<= /A>

Email Jason= Swan: Swanj@santaenergy.com=

See you all= on the water!

Marc Doheny=

BYC

--1261493821-1844387710-1342663381=:63261-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Thu Jul 19 18:53:35 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Edgar Smith) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 13:53:35 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard Message-ID: <78276538-7F4B-452B-9C6E-876F7052EE46@geomatrixproductions.com> Great idea Scott, I'll jump in to the discussion. Our main take-away = from the races and Kattack tracks was how many boat lengths we lost with = unnecessary tacking, and that boat handling makes a huge difference. I = knew this before, but I was still surprised at how obvious it was. We = made one ill timed cover tack after crossing ahead of Wolverine, got = pinched off and were forced to tack to clear our air. Next time we = crossed we were far behind. In another race we botched our tack on the = layline, had to shoot the mark and then hit it anyway. Doing the penalty = turn took us out of a close second ended a potential shot at first for = that race. Each of these mistakes along with a collection of extra = tacks added minutes to our time. While Wolverine has a boat speed = advantage on us in some conditions, we have one on them in others, and = Black Hawk does too. I think Wolverine won the series by out handling us = in 3 out of 4 encounters. That's something they get from ten plus years = in the boat. As far as boat speed goes, I noticed that the speed and headings on the = top boats were more consistent on the Kattack tracks. On Pachyderm we = watch the speedo constantly starting right out of the tack. In lighter = air, we don't finish sheeting in until we are within a few tenths of our = average speed on the previous tack. This takes at least a minute after = the tack. Any time speed drops, we head off a few degrees, ease down the = traveler and when the speed climbs, we use a yank on the traveler to = head us back up to our higher heading. If the drop is due to a decrease = in wind velocity, we adjust the sails, both sheets and leads. This also = applies in heavier air when we've feathered too much and stalled out. = These adjustments actually levels out our speeds and I think this = difference shows up clearly on the Kattack tracks and the VMG graph.=20 Downwind we did better with Wolverine than at Off Soundings this spring. = There we saw a big difference in how smoothly we could jibe the chute in = light air and we've been working on it to good effect. There is no doubt = that Wolverine is good at sailing deep angles without losing speed, but = if you add back what we were losing on our jibes, it put us right back = with them. Two things do make a big difference; sails in good condition, and enough = weight on the rail in windy conditions. Anyone sailing with a short crew = and blown out sails, has an up hill climb. Personally, I don't think = there is a special sauce of equipment, rig tune numbers or lead settings = that will make a big difference. We tune our rig in the spring and leave = it alone. One exception is failing to get enough halyard tension before = the upwind leg. That happens to us often and we find we cannot = adequately adjust halyards once we are going upwind. There is great info = in the tuning guide on the website about sail choice and tuning, but = when I analyze the Kattack tracks, boat handling is the elephant in the = room for us. Pachyderm From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Fri Jul 27 16:43:06 2012 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Dave Nauber) Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 11:43:06 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard In-Reply-To: <78276538-7F4B-452B-9C6E-876F7052EE46@geomatrixproductions.com> References: <78276538-7F4B-452B-9C6E-876F7052EE46@geomatrixproductions.com> Message-ID: <49837b55-ddd3-4334-88e3-9d8f7aea45db@classeaudio.com> Thanks for your observations Edgar. I loved your last sentence: "...but = when I analyze the Kattack tracks, boat handling is the elephant in the = room for us. Pachyderm" That's pretty funny. I agree that there is a lot to be gleaned from watching/studying the = tracks. I also know lots of examples where we have made gains in a race = with boat handling, so I attribute a lot of our success to good crew = work.=20 Scott makes some excellent suggestions and we will definitely plan to = put something together at least for next year, but maybe for the local = guys we may still be able to arrange a get-together sometime this = season.=20 We had a good weekend in Branford so it feels a bit awkward for me to = say what I think we did well/right and what others didn't do as well. = But based on your comments about boat handling, it might be worth = including this subject in some more detail in the tuning guide and = discussing among the owners how best to attract, cultivate and retain = crew. It can be a problem for some of the boats to get crew together and = when there is inconsistency in the crew, even when good crew are aboard, = I think it is harder to be at the top of your game. If anyone has = something to contribute or ask on this subject, I think the owners would = all benefit from the discussion. Thanks to all of you who sailed the regatta in Branford. It is a = critical part of keeping the class active and vibrant. A special thanks = to Jack Greifzu for getting Jim Mormile's old boat the ex More Magic, = now Sling Shot on the starting line and to Art Kelley and crew for = bringing Brilliant from Centerport, Long Island. One last housekeeping note, I would like to thank those of you who have = paid 2012 dues to support the Frers 33 Class Association. 2012 class = members include: Michael Argyelan, Mystify Bob & Sue Connell, Heartbeat & Black Hawk Ted & Janet Dombroski, First Edition Jack Greifzu, Sling Shot=20 Art Kelley, Brilliant Scott Marino, Risoluto Phil and Frances McMann, Ragman Dave & Kathy Nauber, Wolverine Edgar Smith & Margaret Jones, Pachyderm If you have not yet paid and would like to contribute, please send $50 = payable to David Nauber, 86 Coyote Trail, Higganum, CT 06441. Your = support of the class is needed and appreciated. Thanks. Regards, Dave Nauber Wolverine -----Original Message----- From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Edgar Smith Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:54 PM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Reflections on 2012 Branford / Pine Orchard Great idea Scott, I'll jump in to the discussion. Our main take-away = from the races and Kattack tracks was how many boat lengths we lost with = unnecessary tacking, and that boat handling makes a huge difference. I = knew this before, but I was still surprised at how obvious it was. We = made one ill timed cover tack after crossing ahead of Wolverine, got = pinched off and were forced to tack to clear our air. Next time we = crossed we were far behind. In another race we botched our tack on the = layline, had to shoot the mark and then hit it anyway. Doing the penalty = turn took us out of a close second ended a potential shot at first for = that race. Each of these mistakes along with a collection of extra = tacks added minutes to our time. While Wolverine has a boat speed = advantage on us in some conditions, we have one on them in others, and = Black Hawk does too. I think Wolverine won the series by out handling us = in 3 out of 4 encounters. That's something they get from ten plus years = in the boat. As far as boat speed goes, I noticed that the speed and headings on the = top boats were more consistent on the Kattack tracks. On Pachyderm we = watch the speedo constantly starting right out of the tack. In lighter = air, we don't finish sheeting in until we are within a few tenths of our = average speed on the previous tack. This takes at least a minute after = the tack. Any time speed drops, we head off a few degrees, ease down the = traveler and when the speed climbs, we use a yank on the traveler to = head us back up to our higher heading. If the drop is due to a decrease = in wind velocity, we adjust the sails, both sheets and leads. This also = applies in heavier air when we've feathered too much and stalled out. = These adjustments actually levels out our speeds and I think this = difference shows up clearly on the Kattack tracks and the VMG graph.=20 Downwind we did better with Wolverine than at Off Soundings this spring. = There we saw a big difference in how smoothly we could jibe the chute in = light air and we've been working on it to good effect. There is no doubt = that Wolverine is good at sailing deep angles without losing speed, but = if you add back what we were losing on our jibes, it put us right back = with them. Two things do make a big difference; sails in good condition, and enough = weight on the rail in windy conditions. Anyone sailing with a short crew = and blown out sails, has an up hill climb. Personally, I don't think = there is a special sauce of equipment, rig tune numbers or lead settings = that will make a big difference. We tune our rig in the spring and leave = it alone. One exception is failing to get enough halyard tension before = the upwind leg. That happens to us often and we find we cannot = adequately adjust halyards once we are going upwind. There is great info = in the tuning guide on the website about sail choice and tuning, but = when I analyze the Kattack tracks, boat handling is the elephant in the = room for us. Pachyderm _______________________________________________ frers-list mailing list frers-list@lists.frers33.com http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list