[frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #686 - 33 in chicago
David Ward
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The name of the boat in Chicago is Pepperke 2.0, moored at Jackson Park. =
Frank W. is owner. In regards to the pole discussion, How do you propose t=
o go from one system to another as the wind increases. Seems like you have=
to pick one and live with it. Normally, dip pole setups have different in=
board fitting at mast. Finally, if system allows photos, pictures are wort=
h 1000 words. My 2 cents
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David Ward
dlwisme@aol.com
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From: Michael Argyelan <michael@gosailingchicago.com>
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Good stuff here. We were end for end last year, tried to dip pole this
year, and let me tell you, unless it's blowing 30+, I see no point in a dip
pole on this boat. Anyhoo, I'm going to sheets only with twings in anything
below 15 and then to sheets and guys above that (depending on the bow
person that day anyway...). I will actually keep the twings on the guys in
that scenario (port to ports) so if it's a hot reach, the guy isn't
smashing the heck out of the stanchions.
Courtney, I couldn't agree more that you need to see some sister ships. In
the last year I've stripped the deck, rearranged hardware, gone down to
four winches, double led pretty much everything spin related (love a good
death roll...), changed everything to high tech cordage...I don't even use
blocks for my spin sheet and guy deflectors, I use Antal low friction
rings. I lead the sheets and guys way far aft and then lead them back
forward to a deflector and then to their respective winches. In face the
twing lines currently share the same deflector with the guys. I used to do
a lot of rigging so I'm sort of a nerd (and I get most of my parts at
cost...).
Anyhoo, love the convo. Thanks to all for the input. I'm going to have to
make my way out East to sail with everyone at some point. I just found out
there's another 33 in Chicago. I can't remember the name of the boat but
they race in a different circle on Wednesday nights and I haven't seen them
in the major regattas or any port to ports.
That's all for now from Chicago.
Cheers,
Michael Argyelan
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<div dir=3D3D"ltr">Good stuff here. We were end for end last year, tried to=
d=3D
ip pole this year, and let me tell you, unless it's blowing 30+, I see =
=3D
no point in a dip pole on this boat. Anyhoo, I'm going to sheets only w=
=3D
ith twings in anything below 15 and then to sheets and guys above that (dep=
=3D
ending on the bow person that day anyway...). I will actually keep the twin=
=3D
gs on the guys in that scenario (port to ports) so if it's a hot reach,=
=3D
the guy isn't smashing the heck out of the stanchions.=3DA0<div>
<br></div><div>Courtney, I couldn't agree more that you need to see som=
=3D
e sister ships. In the last year I've stripped the deck, rearranged har=
=3D
dware, gone down to four winches, double led pretty much everything spin re=
=3D
lated (love a good death roll...), changed everything to high tech cordage.=
=3D
..I don't even use blocks for my spin sheet and guy deflectors, I use A=
=3D
ntal low friction rings. I lead the sheets and guys way far aft and then le=
=3D
ad them back forward to a deflector and then to their respective winches. I=
=3D
n face the twing lines currently share the same deflector with the guys. I =
=3D
used to do a lot of rigging so I'm sort of a nerd (and I get most of my=
=3D
parts at cost...).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyhoo, love the convo. Thanks to all for the input. I&=
=3D
#39;m going to have to make my way out East to sail with everyone at some p=
=3D
oint. I just found out there's another 33 in Chicago. I can't remem=
=3D
ber the name of the boat but they race in a different circle on Wednesday n=
=3D
ights and I haven't seen them in the major regattas or any port to port=
=3D
s.=3DA0</div>
<div><br></div><div>That's all for now from Chicago.</div><div><br></di=
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v><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Michael Argyelan</di=
=3D
v><div><br></div></div>
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<div> The name of the boat in Chicago is Pepperke 2.0, moored at Jackson Pa=
rk. Frank W. is owner. In regards to the pole discussion, How d=
o you propose to go from one system to another as the wind increases. =
Seems like you have to pick one and live with it. Normally, dip pole=
setups have different inboard fitting at mast. Finally, if system al=
lows photos, pictures are worth 1000 words. My 2 cents<br>
</div>
<div> <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"clear:both">David Ward<br>
dlwisme@aol.com<br>
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Good stuff here. We were end for end last year, tried to dip pole this
year, and let me tell you, unless it's blowing 30+, I see no point in a dip
pole on this boat. Anyhoo, I'm going to sheets only with twings in anything
below 15 and then to sheets and guys above that (depending on the bow
person that day anyway...). I will actually keep the twings on the guys in
that scenario (port to ports) so if it's a hot reach, the guy isn't
smashing the heck out of the stanchions.
Courtney, I couldn't agree more that you need to see some sister ships. In
the last year I've stripped the deck, rearranged hardware, gone down to
four winches, double led pretty much everything spin related (love a good
death roll...), changed everything to high tech cordage...I don't even use
blocks for my spin sheet and guy deflectors, I use Antal low friction
rings. I lead the sheets and guys way far aft and then lead them back
forward to a deflector and then to their respective winches. In face the
twing lines currently share the same deflector with the guys. I used to do
a lot of rigging so I'm sort of a nerd (and I get most of my parts at
cost...).
Anyhoo, love the convo. Thanks to all for the input. I'm going to have to
make my way out East to sail with everyone at some point. I just found out
there's another 33 in Chicago. I can't remember the name of the boat but
they race in a different circle on Wednesday nights and I haven't seen them
in the major regattas or any port to ports.
That's all for now from Chicago.
Cheers,
Michael Argyelan
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<div dir=3D3D"ltr">Good stuff here. We were end for end last year, tr=
ied to d=3D
ip pole this year, and let me tell you, unless it&#39;s blowing 30+, I =
see =3D
no point in a dip pole on this boat. Anyhoo, I&#39;m going to sheets on=
ly w=3D
ith twings in anything below 15 and then to sheets and guys above that (dep=
=3D
ending on the bow person that day anyway...). I will actually keep the twin=
=3D
gs on the guys in that scenario (port to ports) so if it&#39;s a hot re=
ach,=3D
the guy isn&#39;t smashing the heck out of the stanchions.=3DA0<div=
>
<br></div><div>Courtney, I couldn&#39;t agree more th=
at you need to see som=3D
e sister ships. In the last year I&#39;ve stripped the deck, rearranged=
har=3D
dware, gone down to four winches, double led pretty much everything spin re=
=3D
lated (love a good death roll...), changed everything to high tech cordage.=
=3D
..I don&#39;t even use blocks for my spin sheet and guy deflectors, I u=
se A=3D
ntal low friction rings. I lead the sheets and guys way far aft and then le=
=3D
ad them back forward to a deflector and then to their respective winches. I=
=3D
n face the twing lines currently share the same deflector with the guys. I =
=3D
used to do a lot of rigging so I&#39;m sort of a nerd (and I get most o=
f my=3D
parts at cost...).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Anyhoo, love the convo. Thanks =
to all for the input. I&=3D
#39;m going to have to make my way out East to sail with everyone at some p=
=3D
oint. I just found out there&#39;s another 33 in Chicago. I can&#39=
;t remem=3D
ber the name of the boat but they race in a different circle on Wednesday n=
=3D
ights and I haven&#39;t seen them in the major regattas or any port to =
port=3D
s.=3DA0</div>
<div><br></div><div>That&#39;s all for now from=
Chicago.</div><div><br></di=3D
v><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div=
><br></div><div>Michael Argyelan</di=3D
v><div><br></div></div>
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