In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of Vec= tran cores for main and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for = spin hals. =A0The little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin hal= s. In terms of what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. =A0Sams= on Warpspeed is great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly w= hereas Yale holds up longer. =A0Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and Max= ibraid Plus is the Spectra core offering from them. =A0Of course there are = vectran or spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufactur= er (think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all vectran).=A0<= /div>

Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one mornin= g! =A0My rig is unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone =A0has = questions. =A0You can email me at mma@c= rowleys.com or michael@= gosailingchicago.com. =A0Here is a link to what we have online for cord= age (we may have more in the physical store - including different color off= erings, etc)=A0http://store.c= rowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Categories?Rigging= LinesandCordage=3D1

Of course, I'm happy just to talk/wr= ite about this stuff just to help out - not a sales pitch. =A0I just love t= his stuff.

Cheers,

Michael

s.v. Mystify

Chicago, IL

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Nice people and nicer work
Bob Stephen

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Regards
Rod
Equinox

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--bcaec54ee8c6f17e2204d846b164-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Mar 19 14:54:24 2013 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Dave Nauber) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:54:24 -0400 Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: References: <20130319050300.CF2B061CAA@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: <8e319948-30c4-436b-9ad4-38d20e2a1448@classeaudio.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CE2487.BD11FA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Michael, =20 That's a great offer and an excellent outline for a Frers 33 racing = package halyard plan.=20 =20 Do you use the topping lift as originally supplied with the boat? If so, = any recommendations for that? We have removed ours and use the = centerline halyard as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard = in a pinch if need be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska = shackles which can be opened and closed with one hand. The foredeck = appreciates that. =20 Regards, =20 Dave Wolverine =20 David Nauber President Class=E9 C: 860-301-7011 | classeaudio.com B&W Group Canada | 5070 Fran=E7ois Cusson | Lachine | QC | H8T 1B3 Follow Bowers & Wilkins on: facebook.com/bowerswilkins | = twitter.com/bowers_wilkins | youtube.com/bowerswilkins This email message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. = Publication of its contents in whole or in part in any medium (including = electronic means such as e-mail and web-sites) is expressly forbidden = without prior written consent. B&W Group Ltd does not accept = responsibility for any changes made to this message after it was sent. = The views expressed in this document are that of the individual and may = not necessarily constitute or imply its endorsement or recommendation by = B&W Group Ltd.=20 =20 From:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Michael = Argyelan Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs =20 Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. I'm new to the Frers 33 = but I own a charter/lesson company and I also run the Ship's Store at = Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running rigging, = splicing, shackles, etc. I'm excited about this conversation! =20 On the business end of things, any orders for rigging placed with me = will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West M*&%$&, = or otherwise. =20 On the fun side, I have some cool recommendations if you're interested = in a full set of halyards. For the debate on whether to strip or not to = strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as it takes = the most loads (for the most part) and keep completely covered. The jib = hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I = keep the cover at the shackle end (I splice everything, no knots) for = about 2 feet that way the cover is there for chafe whilst the kite is = up. I then strip "x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of = the hal is in the mast when fully hoisted. Of course, less cover =3D = less weight and when aloft, can make a big difference.=20 =20 I definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, fyi. I will also strip = out the tail of the halyard as it takes no load (that's pretty picky and = me just being a big splice nerd). If you're worried about having exposed = core to the sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my halyards and = use some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the = spin hals up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct = sunlight and will last longer. =20 In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of Vectran cores for main = and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for spin hals. The = little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin hals. In terms of = what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. Samson Warpspeed is = great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly whereas Yale = holds up longer. Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and Maxibraid Plus = is the Spectra core offering from them. Of course there are vectran or = spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufacturer = (think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all vectran).=20 =20 Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one morning! My rig is = unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone has questions. You = can email me at mma@crowleys.comor michael@gosailingchicago.com. Here = is a link to what we have online for cordage (we may have more in the = physical store - including different color offerings, etc) = http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Ca= tegories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D1 =20 =20 Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this stuff just to help = out - not a sales pitch. I just love this stuff. =20 Cheers, =20 =20 Michael s.v. Mystify Chicago, IL =20 =20 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:03 AM, = wrote: Send frers-list mailing list submissions to frers-list@lists.frers33.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com You can reach the person managing the list at frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of frers-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright) 2. RE: Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Stephen, Robert) 3. Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Rod Stright To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300 Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. = There are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch = at the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. = I know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = still believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that = you can end for end. Regards Rod Equinox ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Guys,

Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa =3D sheets. There are a lot of products out there and of course I want = =3D the lowest stretch at the lowest price. Anyone have any info on = =3D what they are using and why. I know some racers use the stripped = =3D down spectra or vectran core but I still believe in the high performance = =3D core with the jacket (outer core) that you can end for =3D end.

Regards

Rod

Equinox

------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Stephen, Robert" To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000 Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for = halyards a=3D nd sheets. They sometimes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers = 36 a=3D nd have bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them. Nice people and nicer work Bob Stephen From: = frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre=3D rs33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards Hi Guys, Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. = There=3D are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch = at=3D the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. = I=3D know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = still=3D believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that = you=3D can end for end. Regards Rod Equinox ________________________________ This email is intended solely for use by its addressee, and may contain = con=3D fidential or legally privileged information. If you receive this message = in=3D error, please immediately email a reply to advise the sender of the = error =3D and delete this email and any attachments. Thank you. Weber-Stephen = Product=3D s LLC --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Annapolis = sailing perf=3D ormance (ASP) has lots of nice options for halyards and sheets. They = someti=3D mes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers 36 and have bought all = mai=3D n, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.

Nice people and = nicer =3D work

Bob = Stephen

From: = frers-=3D list-admin@lists.frers33.com[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards

Hi Guys,

Planning on replacing = some h=3D alyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. There are a lot of = products =3D out there and of course I want the lowest stretch at the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. = I =3D know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = still =3D believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that = you =3D can end for end.

Regards

Rod

Equinox

This email is intended solely for use by its addressee, and may contain = con=3D fidential or legally privileged information. If you receive this message = in=3D error, please immediately email a reply to advise the sender of the = error =3D and delete this email and any attachments. Thank you. Weber-Stephen Products LLC

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Thanks Bob

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Thanks Michael,

That’s a great offer and an excellent outline for a = Frers 33 racing package halyard plan.

Do you use the topping lift as originally supplied with = the boat? If so, any recommendations for that? We have removed ours and use = the centerline halyard as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard = in a pinch if need be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska = shackles which can be opened and closed with one hand. The foredeck appreciates = that.

Regards,

Dave

Wolverine

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From:= frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Michael Argyelan
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
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Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. = I'm new to the Frers 33 but I own a charter/lesson company and I also run the = Ship's Store at Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running = rigging, splicing, shackles, etc. I'm excited about this = conversation!

On the business end of things, any orders for = rigging placed with me will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West M*&%$&, or otherwise.

On the fun side, I have some cool recommendations = if you're interested in a full set of halyards. For the debate on whether to = strip or not to strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as = it takes the most loads (for the most part) and keep completely covered. = The jib hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I = keep the cover at the shackle end (I splice everything, no knots) for about 2 = feet that way the cover is there for chafe whilst the kite is up. I = then strip "x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of the hal is = in the mast when fully hoisted. Of course, less cover =3D less weight and = when aloft, can make a big difference.

I definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, = fyi. I will also strip out the tail of the halyard as it takes no load (that's = pretty picky and me just being a big splice nerd). If you're worried about = having exposed core to the sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my = halyards and use some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the = spin hals up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct sunlight = and will last longer.

In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of = Vectran cores for main and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for = spin hals. The little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin = hals. In terms of what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. Samson Warpspeed is great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly = whereas Yale holds up longer. Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and = Maxibraid Plus is the Spectra core offering from them. Of course there are = vectran or spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufacturer = (think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all = vectran).

Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one = morning! My rig is unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone = has questions. You can email me at mma@crowleys.com or michael@gosailingchicago.com= . Here is a link to what we have online for cordage (we may have = more in the physical store - including different color offerings, etc) http://store.crowleys.com/se= rvlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCord= age=3D1

Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this = stuff just to help out - not a sales pitch. I just love this = stuff.

Cheers,

Michael

s.v. Mystify

Chicago, IL

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Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. There
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the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and = why. I
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Regards

Rod

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Nice people and nicer work
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------=_NextPart_000_0019_01CE2487.BD11FA60-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Mar 19 15:22:56 2013 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (FRANCIS ALBERT) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs In-Reply-To: <8e319948-30c4-436b-9ad4-38d20e2a1448@classeaudio.com> Message-ID: <1363702976.24751.YahooMailClassic@web181403.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> --1944329922-460690687-1363702976=:24751 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For everyone out there racing the Tylaska shackles also won't=C2=A0snag on = the life lines and open as you try to raise the spinnaker.=C2=A0 That used = to be a problem that the Tylaska shackles resolved. --- On Tue, 3/19/13, Dave Nauber wrote: From: Dave Nauber Subject: RE: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 9:54 AM Thanks Michael, =C2=A0 That=E2=80=99s a great offer and an excellent outline for a Frers 33 racing= package halyard plan.=20 =C2=A0 Do you use the topping lift as originally supplied with the boat? If so, an= y recommendations for that? We have removed ours and use the centerline hal= yard as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard in a pinch if need= be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska shackles which can be o= pened and closed with one hand. The foredeck appreciates that. =C2=A0 Regards, =C2=A0 Dave Wolverine =C2=A0 David Nauber President Class=C3=A9 C: 860-301-7011 | classeaudio.com B&W Group Canada | 5070 Fran=C3=A7ois Cusson | Lachine | QC | H8T 1B3 Follow Bowers & Wilkins on: facebook.com/bowerswilkins | twitter.com/bowers= _wilkins | youtube.com/bowerswilkins This email message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. Publi= cation of its contents in whole or in part in any medium (including electro= nic means such as e-mail and web-sites) is expressly forbidden without prio= r written consent. B&W Group Ltd does not accept responsibility for any cha= nges made to this message after it was sent. The views expressed in this do= cument are that of the individual and may not necessarily constitute or imp= ly its endorsement or recommendation by B&W Group Ltd.=20 =C2=A0 From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre= rs33.com] On Behalf Of Michael Argyelan Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs =C2=A0 Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. =C2=A0I'm new to the Frers 3= 3 but I own a charter/lesson company and I also run the Ship's Store at Cro= wley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running rigging, splicing,= shackles, etc. =C2=A0I'm excited about this conversation! =C2=A0 On the business end of things, any orders for rigging placed with me will g= et free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West M*&%$&, or otherw= ise. =C2=A0 On the fun side, I have some cool recommendations if you're interested in a= full set of halyards. =C2=A0For the debate on whether to strip or not to s= trip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as it takes the m= ost loads (for the most part) and keep completely covered. The jib hal I ke= ep covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I keep the co= ver at the shackle end (I splice everything, no knots) for about 2 feet tha= t way the cover is there for chafe whilst the kite is up. =C2=A0I then stri= p "x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of the hal is in the mas= t when fully hoisted. =C2=A0Of course, less cover =3D less weight and when = aloft, can make a big difference.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, fyi. =C2=A0I will also stri= p out the tail of the halyard as it takes no load (that's pretty picky and = me just being a big splice nerd). If you're worried about having exposed co= re to the sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my halyards and use som= e Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the spin hals up = to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct sunlight and wil= l last longer. =C2=A0 In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of Vectran cores for main and = jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for spin hals. =C2=A0The lit= tle extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin hals. In terms of what b= rand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. =C2=A0Samson Warpspeed is great = but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly whereas Yale holds up l= onger. =C2=A0Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and Maxibraid Plus is the = Spectra core offering from them. =C2=A0Of course there are vectran or spect= ra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufacturer (think NER V1= 00 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all vectran).=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one morning! =C2=A0My rig is unste= pped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone =C2=A0has questions. =C2=A0Y= ou can email me at mma@crowleys.com or michael@gosailingchicago.com. =C2=A0= Here is a link to what we have online for cordage (we may have more in the = physical store - including different color offerings, etc)=C2=A0http://stor= e.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Categories?Rigg= ingLinesandCordage=3D1 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this stuff just to help out -= not a sales pitch. =C2=A0I just love this stuff. =C2=A0 Cheers, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Michael s.v. Mystify Chicago, IL =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:03 AM, wr= ote: Send frers-list mailing list submissions to =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 frers-list@lists.frers33.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers= -list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com You can reach the person managing the list at =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of frers-list digest..." Today's Topics: =C2=A0 =C2=A01. Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright) =C2=A0 =C2=A02. RE: Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Stephen, Robert) =C2=A0 =C2=A03. Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: Rod Stright To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300 Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0 Content-Type: text/plain; =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Guys, Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. =C2=A0= There are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch at the lowest price. =C2=A0Anyone have any info on what they are using and why= . =C2=A0I know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I still believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that you can end for end. 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Hi Guys,

Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa =3D sheets. There are a lot of products out there and of course I want = =3D the lowest stretch at the lowest price. Anyone have any info on =3D what they are using and why. I know some racers use the stripped =3D down spectra or vectran core but I still believe in the high performance = =3D core with the jacket (outer core) that you can end for =3D end.

Regards

Rod

Equinox

------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0-- --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Stephen, Robert" To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000 Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for halyards a= =3D nd sheets. They sometimes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers 36 a= =3D nd have bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them. Nice people and nicer work Bob Stephen From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre= =3D rs33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards Hi Guys, Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. =C2=A0= There=3D =C2=A0are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stret= ch at=3D =C2=A0the lowest price. =C2=A0Anyone have any info on what they are using a= nd why. =C2=A0I=3D =C2=A0know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = still=3D =C2=A0believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) tha= t you=3D =C2=A0can end for end. Regards Rod Equinox ________________________________ This email is intended solely for use by its addressee, and may contain con= =3D fidential or legally privileged information. If you receive this message in= =3D =C2=A0error, please immediately email a reply to advise the sender of the e= rror =3D and delete this email and any attachments. Thank you. Weber-Stephen Product= =3D s LLC --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_ Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Annapolis sailing = perf=3D ormance (ASP) has lots of nice options for halyards and sheets. They someti= =3D mes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers 36 and have bought all mai= =3D n, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.

Nice people and ni= cer =3D work

Bob Stephen=

From: frers-= =3D list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM
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Hi Guys,

Planning on replacing some h= =3D alyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. There are a lot of products = =3D out there and of course I want the lowest stretch at the lowest =C2=A0price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why.&nbs= p; I =3D know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I still = =3D believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that you = =3D can end for end.

Regards

Rod

Equinox

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Thanks Bob

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For everyone out there racing the Tyla= ska shackles also won't snag on the life lines and open as you try to = raise the spinnaker. That used to be a problem that the Tylaska shack= les resolved.

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Subject: RE: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs
= To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Tuesday, March 19, 2013, 9:54 AM<= BR>

Thanks Michael,

That=E2=80=99s a great offer a= nd an excellent outline for a Frers 33 racing package halyard plan. =

Do you use the topping lift as= originally supplied with the boat? If so, any recommendations for that? We= have removed ours and use the centerline halyard as a topping lift. It can= serve as an extra halyard in a pinch if need be. Also, for the headsail ha= lyards we use Tylaska shackles which can be opened and closed with one hand= . The foredeck appreciates that.

Regards,

Dave
Wolverine

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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.co= m [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Michael A= rgyelan
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM
To: frers= -list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list diges= t, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs

Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an ex= pert. I'm new to the Frers 33 but I own a charter/lesson company and = I also run the Ship's Store at Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an ex= pert in running rigging, splicing, shackles, etc. I'm excited about t= his conversation!

On the business end of things, any orders= for rigging placed with me will get free shipping and I'll price match APS= , mauripro, West M*&%$&, or otherwise.

On the fun side, I have some cool recomme= ndations if you're interested in a full set of halyards. For the deba= te on whether to strip or not to strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal = I beef up to 3/8 as it takes the most loads (for the most part) and keep co= mpletely covered. The jib hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 = size. For spin hals, I keep the cover at the shackle end (I splice everythi= ng, no knots) for about 2 feet that way the cover is there for chafe whilst= the kite is up. I then strip "x" amount of cover so that the non cov= ered part of the hal is in the mast when fully hoisted. Of course, le= ss cover =3D less weight and when aloft, can make a big difference.

I definitely add stopper balls to my spin= hals, fyi. I will also strip out the tail of the halyard as it takes= no load (that's pretty picky and me just being a big splice nerd). If you'= re worried about having exposed core to the sun, wind, etc when not out rac= ing, I sky my halyards and use some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenge= r lined and send the spin hals up to the stopper balls that way no core is = exposed to direct sunlight and will last longer.

In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE = fan of Vectran cores for main and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/sp= ectra for spin hals. The little extra stretch from spectra is perfect= for spin hals. In terms of what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage= . Samson Warpspeed is great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray = to quickly whereas Yale holds up longer. Yale Crystalyne is the Vectr= an core and Maxibraid Plus is the Spectra core offering from them. Of= course there are vectran or spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just abou= t every manufacturer (think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all= vectran).

Well, I think I've nerded out enough for = one morning! My rig is unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if a= nyone has questions. You can email me at mma@crowleys.com or michael@gosailingchicago.com. Here is a link to wha= t we have online for cordage (we may have more in the physical store - incl= uding different color offerings, etc) http://store.crowleys.com/serv= let/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCordage= =3D1

Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write a= bout this stuff just to help out - not a sales pitch. I just love thi= s stuff.

Cheers,

Michael

s.v. Mystify

Chicago, IL

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Message: 1
From: = Rod Stright <StrightR@eastlink.ca>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.c= om
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300
Subject: [frers-list]Fre= rs 33 Sheets and Halyards
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Planning on replacing some halya= rds (main and jib) and genoa sheets. There
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know so= me racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I still
beli= eve in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that you
can end for= end.

Regards

Rod

Equinox

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To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 = Sheets and Halyards
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000
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= Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for halyards a= =3D
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nd have = bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.
Nice people and n= icer work
Bob Stephen

From: frers-l= ist-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@li= sts.fre=3D
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Hi Guys,

Planning on replacing some halyards (main = and jib) and genoa sheets. There=3D
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Regards
RodEquinox

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--1944329922-460690687-1363702976=:24751-- From frers-list@lists.frers33.com Tue Mar 19 19:45:07 2013 From: frers-list@lists.frers33.com (Michael Argyelan) Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 13:45:07 -0500 Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #623 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <20130319135601.3B06E61CEB@mailman.siteprotect.com> References: <20130319135601.3B06E61CEB@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: --e89a8f83a5c524c28f04d84b8142 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I do use the topper as supplied. I use spectra/dyneema lines for that too. I thought about using the center line hal as the topper but decided I like having it used for what it's supposed to be there for. As far as shackles are concerned, every hal/topper shackle we have on Mystify is a Tylaska T5 (5,000lb breaking strength). A couple of nice points about these are that they can be opened under load with a fid (and a lot of gusto) and nothing tends to get caught on them. I think snap shackles are just begging to get caught on something and open at the wrong time (not to mention they typically don't handle high loads without getting really big in size). I make my own soft shackles out of dyneema (NER Endura) and use those on the kite sheets. I use the T5's on the guys and then I really like the low load non swiveling Equiplite shackles for the jib sheets. I also highly, highly recommend checking out Yale PhD. racing cordage - so light - so strong. I use Maffioli Swiftcord for my gross and fine tune on the main sheet system. For light air sheets I have Marlow Excel Pro (like 5mm) for the really light stuff. For the light stuff on the kite we go to sheets only as I have the last 4' of my kite sheets stripped and use the soft shackles so I don't really need to carry a 2nd pair of light sheets. Not sure what I've left out.... Cheers, Michael > Thanks Michael, > =20 > That's a great offer and an excellent outline for a Frers 33 racing = > package halyard plan.=20 > =20 > Do you use the topping lift as originally supplied with the boat? If so, = > any recommendations for that? We have removed ours and use the = > centerline halyard as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard = > in a pinch if need be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska = > shackles which can be opened and closed with one hand. The foredeck = > appreciates that. > =20 > Regards, > =20 > Dave > Wolverine > =20 > David Nauber > President > Class=E9 > > C: 860-301-7011 | classeaudio.com > B&W Group Canada | 5070 Fran=E7ois Cusson | Lachine | QC | H8T 1B3 > Follow Bowers & Wilkins on: facebook.com/bowerswilkins | = > twitter.com/bowers_wilkins | youtube.com/bowerswilkins > > This email message is confidential and for use by the addressee only. = > Publication of its contents in whole or in part in any medium (including = > electronic means such as e-mail and web-sites) is expressly forbidden = > without prior written consent. B&W Group Ltd does not accept = > responsibility for any changes made to this message after it was sent. = > The views expressed in this document are that of the individual and may = > not necessarily constitute or imply its endorsement or recommendation by = > B&W Group Ltd.=20 > =20 > From:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com = > [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Michael = > Argyelan > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs > =20 > Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. I'm new to the Frers 33 = > but I own a charter/lesson company and I also run the Ship's Store at = > Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running rigging, = > splicing, shackles, etc. I'm excited about this conversation! > =20 > On the business end of things, any orders for rigging placed with me = > will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West M*&%$&, = > or otherwise. > =20 > On the fun side, I have some cool recommendations if you're interested = > in a full set of halyards. For the debate on whether to strip or not to = > strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as it takes = > the most loads (for the most part) and keep completely covered. The jib = > hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I = > keep the cover at the shackle end (I splice everything, no knots) for = > about 2 feet that way the cover is there for chafe whilst the kite is = > up. I then strip "x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of = > the hal is in the mast when fully hoisted. Of course, less cover =3D = > less weight and when aloft, can make a big difference.=20 > =20 > I definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, fyi. I will also strip = > out the tail of the halyard as it takes no load (that's pretty picky and = > me just being a big splice nerd). If you're worried about having exposed = > core to the sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my halyards and = > use some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the = > spin hals up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct = > sunlight and will last longer. > =20 > In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of Vectran cores for main = > and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for spin hals. The = > little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin hals. In terms of = > what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. Samson Warpspeed is = > great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly whereas Yale = > holds up longer. Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and Maxibraid Plus = > is the Spectra core offering from them. Of course there are vectran or = > spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufacturer = > (think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all vectran).=20 > =20 > Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one morning! My rig is = > unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone has questions. You = > can email me at mma@crowleys.comor michael@gosailingchicago.com. Here = > is a link to what we have online for cordage (we may have more in the = > physical store - including different color offerings, etc) = > http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Ca= > tegories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D1 > =20 > =20 > Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this stuff just to help = > out - not a sales pitch. I just love this stuff. > =20 > Cheers, > =20 > =20 > Michael > s.v. Mystify > Chicago, IL > =20 > =20 > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 12:03 AM, = > wrote: > Send frers-list mailing list submissions to > frers-list@lists.frers33.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.frers33.com/mailman/listinfo/frers-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > frers-list-request@lists.frers33.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of frers-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright) > 2. RE: Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Stephen, Robert) > 3. Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright) > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: Rod Stright > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300 > Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards > Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi Guys, > > > > Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. = > There > are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch = > at > the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. = > I > know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = > still > believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that = > you > can end for end. > > > > Regards > > Rod > > Equinox > > > > > > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > xmlns:o=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =3D > xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D > xmlns:m=3D3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =3D > xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D > charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> Word 12 =3D > (filtered medium)"> link=3D3Dblue =3D > vlink=3D3Dpurple>

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od=3D > y> > ------=3D_NextPart_000_0042_01CE23B9.EE5D7FF0-- > > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Stephen, Robert" > To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" > Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000 > Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > > --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for = > halyards a=3D > nd sheets. They sometimes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers = > 36 a=3D > nd have bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them. > Nice people and nicer work > Bob Stephen > > From: = > frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre=3D > rs33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards > > Hi Guys, > > Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. = > There=3D > are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch = > at=3D > the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. = > I=3D > know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = > still=3D > believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that = > you=3D > can end for end. > > Regards > Rod > Equinox > > > > ________________________________ > > > This email is intended solely for use by its addressee, and may contain = > con=3D > fidential or legally privileged information. If you receive this message = > in=3D > error, please immediately email a reply to advise the sender of the = > error =3D > and delete this email and any attachments. Thank you. Weber-Stephen = > Product=3D > s LLC > > > --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_ > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3D3Dus-ascii"=3D > > > > > >

Annapolis = > sailing perf=3D > ormance (ASP) has lots of nice options for halyards and sheets. They = > someti=3D > mes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers 36 and have bought all = > mai=3D > n, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.

Nice people and = > nicer =3D > work

Bob = > Stephen

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> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards

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style=3D3D"font-family:"Aria=3D > l","sans-serif"; color:#0000CC">Planning on replacing = > some h=3D > alyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. There are a lot of = > products =3D > out there and of course I want the lowest stretch at the lowest > price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. = > I =3D > know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I = > still =3D > believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that = > you =3D > can end for end.

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> > > > --_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_-- > > -- __--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: Rod Stright > To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:15:43 -0300 > Subject: [frers-list]Sheets and Halyards > Reply-To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_00DE_01CE23F3.D7853720 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Thanks Bob > > > > > > > ------=3D_NextPart_000_00DE_01CE23F3.D7853720 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > xmlns:o=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" =3D > xmlns:w=3D3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =3D > xmlns:m=3D3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" =3D > xmlns=3D3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40"> http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D > charset=3D3Dus-ascii"> Word 12 =3D > (filtered medium)"> link=3D3Dblue =3D > vlink=3D3Dpurple>

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