[frers-list]Checkstays and Mainsheet traveller
Rod Stright
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Thu, 14 May 2015 14:37:03 -0300
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
Sent: May-14-15 1:20 PM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Checkstays and Mainsheet traveller
Checkstays
These are new to us since we have always had boats with swept back spreaders
and fractional rigs.
How do people tend to use these on the Frers 33? Do you leave them off
completely in lighter wind or use them anyway for better pointing?
Has anyone moved the attachment point further forward on the toerail? A
suggestion yesterday was that we could move them forward to an area near the
primaries and let the jib trimmers run them. Also suggested that a longer
and lighter line thru the blocks would allow us to keep them in this
position downwind by letting off a lot of line. Add to this a strong bungee
to pull the block forward to near the shrouds when fully eased. Currently
we have heavy thick line and we attach at aft end of toerail and then detach
and run checkstays forward to middle stanchion base for downwind.
Mainsheet traveler.
The attached photo shows the traveler system on persistence. Cam cleats at
right angle to ends of track with line pulling on a horizontal plane at seat
level. Am finding that cannot be adjusted while sitting on the coaming
because difficult to cleat from that angle and the angles for pulling
traveler to high side are not ideal. Works best when standing in the
cockpit which seems wrong. A simple (but not free) solution would be to add
the windward sheeting adaptor to the car. Other thoughts?
Boat
The Frers 30 seems very forgiving on the helm in that it does not have a
narrow groove upwind. We have found that with good sailors aboard the boat
is very easy to sail and is not as difficult to dial in as many other boats
that race. Really enjoying the boat and love that it is a hotel inside to
boot!
Note that we have applied to register the boat in Canada under the name
Persistence. They have approved Persistence V so this will make it easier
to keep track of this boat's history and future ..
Mike
Persistence
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hoyt, =
Mike<br><b>Sent:</b> May-14-15 1:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Checkstays =
and Mainsheet traveller<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
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>These are new to us since we have always had boats with swept back =
spreaders and fractional rigs. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>How do people tend to use these on the Frers 33? Do you leave =
them off completely in lighter wind or use them anyway for better =
pointing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Has anyone moved the attachment point further forward on the =
toerail? A suggestion yesterday was that we could move them =
forward to an area near the primaries and let the jib trimmers run =
them. Also suggested that a longer and lighter line thru the =
blocks would allow us to keep them in this position downwind by letting =
off a lot of line. Add to this a strong bungee to pull the block =
forward to near the shrouds when fully eased. Currently we have =
heavy thick line and we attach at aft end of toerail and then detach and =
run checkstays forward to middle stanchion base for downwind. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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>Mainsheet traveler.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>The attached photo shows the traveler system on =
persistence. Cam cleats at right angle to ends of track with line =
pulling on a horizontal plane at seat level. Am finding that =
cannot be adjusted while sitting on the coaming because difficult to =
cleat from that angle and the angles for pulling traveler to high side =
are not ideal. Works best when standing in the cockpit which seems =
wrong. A simple (but not free) solution would be to add the =
windward sheeting adaptor to the car. Other =
thoughts?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>The Frers 30 seems very forgiving on the helm in that it does not have =
a narrow groove upwind. We have found that with good sailors =
aboard the boat is very easy to sail and is not as difficult to dial in =
as many other boats that race. Really enjoying the boat and love =
that it is a hotel inside to boot! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
>Note that we have applied to register the boat in Canada under the name =
Persistence. They have approved Persistence V so this will make it =
easier to keep track of this boat’s history and future =
….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'=
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>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
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>Persistence<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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