[frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #911 - 1 msg
David Ward
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Your yard is either incompetent or ripping you off. I changed mine last year using these simple instructions (shown below). No rudder removal. Only special tool required is a hub puller. Other than bearing, cost less than 5$
http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/replacing_a_cutlass
David Ward
dlwisme@aol.com
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From: John Rimel <jrimel@mtnpress.com>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 22:40:56 -0700
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Martin,=20
For what it=92s worth, Whistler spent part of her life sailing the =
salt-free waters of Flathead Lake in Montana. She=92s been in Seattle =
for a while, but she hasn=92t always been a saltwater boat. She was very =
well regarded on Flathead and I suspect she=92s still in great shape. =
That said, I suspect an inspection of the rudder and the rudder post is =
not a bad idea.=20
Best of luck with her, she=92s one of the good ones!=20
John Rimel
Missoula, MT=20
> On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:43 PM, mart=EDn contal <martin06@contal.ca> =
wrote:
>=20
> Mike, I thought you were serious about it: Basically using a line to =
pull
> and bend the shaft on its way out so as to negotiate the rudder!=20
>=20
> Thanks,
> Martin
>=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
> [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
> Sent: February-04-16 9:01 AM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Subject: RE: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice
>=20
> Just reread my last post. Was a bit tongue in cheek. We accidentally
> caught a line and the resulting repairs had the strut removed and =
during
> that cutlass bearing and shaft replacement (due to wear)
>=20
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax
>=20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
> [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:18 PM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Subject: RE: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice
>=20
> Wrap a line around prop and bend strut. That way while you are paying
> someone to remove strut to fix it everything is easy. Also super =
expensive.
> Never had to remove rudder
>=20
> The downside was that only was cutlass bearing worn but so was shaft =
at same
> place. New shift was $1200 CAD.
>=20
> Mike
> Persistence
> Halifax, NS
> ________________________________________
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com
> [frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] on behalf of Arthur Kelley
> [akelley@optonline.net]
> Sent: February 3, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Subject: Re: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice
>=20
> My yard wanted to cut and replace the shaft, but similar price.
>=20
> I replaced mine myself without removing the shaft. Cost me about $50 I
> think. This is the professional tool to do the job. =
http://www.strutpro.com/
>=20
> If you poke about on the Internet there are plans to build the tool
> yourself. It's nothing more than a couple of plates, one with a 1" =
hole
> (remove prop anyway) and the other with a 1" slot to slide over the =
leading
> side. A couple of hefty threaded rods and a sleeve, which is the =
trickiest
> part to size. Here is a video =
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#
>=20
> Another club member needed to do the same job and he's a machinist. I
> provided the plans, threaded rods and nuts and he made the plates and =
sleeve
> (collet) out of scraps.
>=20
> 2 set screws on one side, don't remember which, came out easily but I =
was
> prepared for the worst.
>=20
> I think it only took me an hour or two.
>=20
> Art
>=20
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 5:43 PM, mart=EDn contal
> <martin06@contal.ca<mailto:martin06@contal.ca>> wrote:
>=20
> Hi everyone, I'm re-posting this message since I've been having some =
issues
> with my frers-list registration. Hope it'll work now:
>=20
> My surveyor indicated that I need to replace the cutlass bearing and =
the
> shipyard where "austral" currently stays is quoting me the following:
>=20
> "Remove rudder to remove shaft, pull prop and shaft and replace =
cutlass
> bearing:12 hrs of labour US$1,276 total ".
> I'm told that they cannot remove the shaft without removing the =
rudder.
>=20
> Knowing that my rudder seems to be OK and having read the many posts =
about
> rudder bearing issues, etc. I rather leave it undisturbed. So, I've =
gone
> through all the frers-list archives since 2004 to this date, as well =
as the
> FAQs in search of tips. Seems to me that it shouldn't be necessary to =
remove
> the rudder at all.
>=20
> If anyone who went through this work could share some advice and =
experience
> it'll be much appreciated! (I need to confirm go/no-go by next week).
>=20
> Martin
>=20
>=20
> martin contal
> : : austral
> ottawa, canada
> 613 286 7189
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class=3D"">Martin, <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">For what it=92s worth, Whistler spent part of her life =
sailing the salt-free waters of Flathead Lake in Montana. She=92s been =
in Seattle for a while, but she hasn=92t always been a saltwater boat. =
She was very well regarded on Flathead and I suspect she=92s still in =
great shape. That said, I suspect an inspection of the rudder and the =
rudder post is not a bad idea. </div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best of luck with her, she=92s one of =
the good ones! </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
apple-content-edited=3D"true" class=3D"">
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class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D"">John Rimel</div><div style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =
class=3D"">Missoula, MT </div></div><div class=3D""><br =
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:43 PM, mart=EDn contal <<a =
href=3D"mailto:martin06@contal.ca" class=3D"">martin06@contal.ca</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">Mike, =
I thought you were serious about it: Basically using a line to pull<br =
class=3D"">and bend the shaft on its way out so as to negotiate the =
rudder! <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Martin<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =
class=3D"">From: <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D"">[<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] On Behalf Of =
Hoyt, Mike<br class=3D"">Sent: February-04-16 9:01 AM<br class=3D"">To: =
<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D"">Subject: RE: =
[frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Just reread my last post. Was a bit tongue in cheek. =
We accidentally<br class=3D"">caught a line and the resulting =
repairs had the strut removed and during<br class=3D"">that cutlass =
bearing and shaft replacement (due to wear)<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Mike<br class=3D"">Persistence<br class=3D"">Halifax<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: =
<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D"">[<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] On Behalf Of =
Hoyt, Mike<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:18 PM<br =
class=3D"">To: <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D"">Subject: RE: =
[frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Wrap a line around prop and bend strut. That way while you =
are paying<br class=3D"">someone to remove strut to fix it everything is =
easy. Also super expensive.<br class=3D"">Never had to remove rudder<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The downside was that only was cutlass bearing =
worn but so was shaft at same<br class=3D"">place. New shift was $1200 =
CAD.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Mike<br class=3D"">Persistence<br =
class=3D"">Halifax, NS<br =
class=3D"">________________________________________<br class=3D"">From: =
<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D"">[<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] on behalf of Arthur =
Kelley<br class=3D"">[<a href=3D"mailto:akelley@optonline.net" =
class=3D"">akelley@optonline.net</a>]<br class=3D"">Sent: February 3, =
2016 7:55 PM<br class=3D"">To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" =
class=3D"">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =
[frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">My yard wanted to cut and replace the shaft, but similar =
price.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I replaced mine myself without =
removing the shaft. Cost me about $50 I<br class=3D"">think. This is the =
professional tool to do the job. <a href=3D"http://www.strutpro.com/" =
class=3D"">http://www.strutpro.com/</a><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If =
you poke about on the Internet there are plans to build the tool<br =
class=3D"">yourself. It's nothing more than a couple of plates, =
one with a 1" hole<br class=3D"">(remove prop anyway) and the other with =
a 1" slot to slide over the leading<br class=3D"">side. A couple of =
hefty threaded rods and a sleeve, which is the trickiest<br =
class=3D"">part to size. Here is a video <a =
href=3D"https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#" =
class=3D"">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#</a><br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Another club member needed to do the same job =
and he's a machinist. I<br class=3D"">provided the plans, threaded rods =
and nuts and he made the plates and sleeve<br class=3D"">(collet) out of =
scraps.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">2 set screws on one side, don't =
remember which, came out easily but I was<br class=3D"">prepared for the =
worst.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I think it only took me an hour or =
two.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Art<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On =
Feb 3, 2016, at 5:43 PM, mart=EDn contal<br class=3D""><<a =
href=3D"mailto:martin06@contal.ca" class=3D"">martin06@contal.ca</a><<a=
href=3D"mailto:martin06@contal.ca" =
class=3D"">mailto:martin06@contal.ca</a>>> wrote:<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Hi everyone, I'm re-posting this message since I've been =
having some issues<br class=3D"">with my frers-list registration. Hope =
it'll work now:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">My surveyor indicated that =
I need to replace the cutlass bearing and the<br class=3D"">shipyard =
where "austral" currently stays is quoting me the following:<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">"Remove rudder to remove shaft, pull prop and =
shaft and replace cutlass<br class=3D"">bearing:12 hrs of labour =
US$1,276 total ".<br class=3D"">I'm told that they cannot remove the =
shaft without removing the rudder.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Knowing =
that my rudder seems to be OK and having read the many posts about<br =
class=3D"">rudder bearing issues, etc. I rather leave it undisturbed. =
So, I've gone<br class=3D"">through all the frers-list archives since =
2004 to this date, as well as the<br class=3D"">FAQs in search of tips. =
Seems to me that it shouldn't be necessary to remove<br class=3D"">the =
rudder at all.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If anyone who went through =
this work could share some advice and experience<br class=3D"">it'll be =
much appreciated! (I need to confirm go/no-go by next week).<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Martin<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">martin contal<br class=3D"">: : austral<br class=3D"">ottawa, =
canada<br class=3D"">613 286 7189<br =
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<font color='black' size='3' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Y<font size="3">our yard is either incompetent or ripping you off. I changed mine last year using these simple instructions (shown below). No rudder removal. Only special tool required is a hub puller. Other than bearing, cost less than 5$ </font>
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<font size="3">http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/replacing_a_cutlass<br>
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<div style="clear:both">David Ward<br>
dlwisme@aol.com<br>
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1. Re: Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice (John Rimel)<br>
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From: John Rimel <<a href="mailto:jrimel@mtnpress.com">jrimel@mtnpress.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br>
Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2016 22:40:56 -0700<br>
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Martin,=20<br>
<br>
For what it=92s worth, Whistler spent part of her life sailing the =<br>
salt-free waters of Flathead Lake in Montana. She=92s been in Seattle =<br>
for a while, but she hasn=92t always been a saltwater boat. She was very =<br>
well regarded on Flathead and I suspect she=92s still in great shape. =<br>
That said, I suspect an inspection of the rudder and the rudder post is =<br>
not a bad idea.=20<br>
<br>
Best of luck with her, she=92s one of the good ones!=20<br>
<br>
John Rimel<br>
Missoula, MT=20<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
> On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:43 PM, mart=EDn contal <<a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca">martin06@contal.ca</a>> =<br>
wrote:<br>
>=20<br>
> Mike, I thought you were serious about it: Basically using a line to =<br>
pull<br>
> and bend the shaft on its way out so as to negotiate the rudder!=20<br>
>=20<br>
> Thanks,<br>
> Martin<br>
>=20<br>
>=20<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike<br>
> Sent: February-04-16 9:01 AM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
> Subject: RE: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br>
>=20<br>
> Just reread my last post. Was a bit tongue in cheek. We accidentally<br>
> caught a line and the resulting repairs had the strut removed and =<br>
during<br>
> that cutlass bearing and shaft replacement (due to wear)<br>
>=20<br>
> Mike<br>
> Persistence<br>
> Halifax<br>
>=20<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:18 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
> Subject: RE: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br>
>=20<br>
> Wrap a line around prop and bend strut. That way while you are paying<br>
> someone to remove strut to fix it everything is easy. Also super =<br>
expensive.<br>
> Never had to remove rudder<br>
>=20<br>
> The downside was that only was cutlass bearing worn but so was shaft =<br>
at same<br>
> place. New shift was $1200 CAD.<br>
>=20<br>
> Mike<br>
> Persistence<br>
> Halifax, NS<br>
> ________________________________________<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] on behalf of Arthur Kelley<br>
> [<a href="mailto:akelley@optonline.net">akelley@optonline.net</a>]<br>
> Sent: February 3, 2016 7:55 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br>
>=20<br>
> My yard wanted to cut and replace the shaft, but similar price.<br>
>=20<br>
> I replaced mine myself without removing the shaft. Cost me about $50 I<br>
> think. This is the professional tool to do the job. =<br>
<a href="http://www.strutpro.com/" target="_blank">http://www.strutpro.com/</a><br>
>=20<br>
> If you poke about on the Internet there are plans to build the tool<br>
> yourself. It's nothing more than a couple of plates, one with a 1" =<br>
hole<br>
> (remove prop anyway) and the other with a 1" slot to slide over the =<br>
leading<br>
> side. A couple of hefty threaded rods and a sleeve, which is the =<br>
trickiest<br>
> part to size. Here is a video =<br>
<a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#</a><br>
>=20<br>
> Another club member needed to do the same job and he's a machinist. I<br>
> provided the plans, threaded rods and nuts and he made the plates and =<br>
sleeve<br>
> (collet) out of scraps.<br>
>=20<br>
> 2 set screws on one side, don't remember which, came out easily but I =<br>
was<br>
> prepared for the worst.<br>
>=20<br>
> I think it only took me an hour or two.<br>
>=20<br>
> Art<br>
>=20<br>
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 5:43 PM, mart=EDn contal<br>
> <<a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca">martin06@contal.ca</a><<a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca?">mailto:martin06@contal.ca</a>>> wrote:<br>
>=20<br>
> Hi everyone, I'm re-posting this message since I've been having some =<br>
issues<br>
> with my frers-list registration. Hope it'll work now:<br>
>=20<br>
> My surveyor indicated that I need to replace the cutlass bearing and =<br>
the<br>
> shipyard where "austral" currently stays is quoting me the following:<br>
>=20<br>
> "Remove rudder to remove shaft, pull prop and shaft and replace =<br>
cutlass<br>
> bearing:12 hrs of labour US$1,276 total ".<br>
> I'm told that they cannot remove the shaft without removing the =<br>
rudder.<br>
>=20<br>
> Knowing that my rudder seems to be OK and having read the many posts =<br>
about<br>
> rudder bearing issues, etc. I rather leave it undisturbed. So, I've =<br>
gone<br>
> through all the frers-list archives since 2004 to this date, as well =<br>
as the<br>
> FAQs in search of tips. Seems to me that it shouldn't be necessary to =<br>
remove<br>
> the rudder at all.<br>
>=20<br>
> If anyone who went through this work could share some advice and =<br>
experience<br>
> it'll be much appreciated! (I need to confirm go/no-go by next week).<br>
>=20<br>
> Martin<br>
>=20<br>
>=20<br>
> martin contal<br>
> : : austral<br>
> ottawa, canada<br>
> 613 286 7189<br>
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class=3D"">Martin,&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =<br>
class=3D"">For what it=92s worth, Whistler spent part of her life =<br>
sailing the salt-free waters of Flathead Lake in Montana. She=92s been =<br>
in Seattle for a while, but she hasn=92t always been a saltwater boat. =<br>
She was very well regarded on Flathead and I suspect she=92s still in =<br>
great shape. That said, I suspect an inspection of the rudder and the =<br>
rudder post is not a bad idea.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Best of luck with her, she=92s one of =<br>
the good ones!&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =<br>
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class=3D"">John Rimel</div><div style=3D"orphans: 2; widows: 2;" =<br>
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<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =<br>
class=3D"">On Feb 4, 2016, at 7:43 PM, mart=EDn contal &lt;<a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca"?">mailto:martin06@contal.ca"</a> class=3D""><a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca">martin06@contal.ca</a></a>&gt; =<br>
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">Mike, =<br>
I thought you were serious about it: Basically using a line to pull<br =<br>
class=3D"">and bend the shaft on its way out so as to negotiate the =<br>
rudder! <br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Martin<br =<br>
class=3D""><br class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br =<br>
class=3D"">From: <a href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a></a><br class=3D"">[<a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a</a>>] On Behalf Of =<br>
Hoyt, Mike<br class=3D"">Sent: February-04-16 9:01 AM<br class=3D"">To: =<br>
<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a></a><br class=3D"">Subject: RE: =<br>
[frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D"">Just reread my last post. &nbsp;Was a bit tongue in cheek. =<br>
&nbsp;We accidentally<br class=3D"">caught a line and the resulting =<br>
repairs had the strut removed and during<br class=3D"">that cutlass =<br>
bearing and shaft replacement (due to wear)<br class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D"">Mike<br class=3D"">Persistence<br class=3D"">Halifax<br =<br>
class=3D""><br class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: =<br>
<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a></a><br class=3D"">[<a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a</a>>] On Behalf Of =<br>
Hoyt, Mike<br class=3D"">Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2016 8:18 PM<br =<br>
class=3D"">To: <a href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a></a><br class=3D"">Subject: RE: =<br>
[frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D"">Wrap a line around prop and bend strut. That way while you =<br>
are paying<br class=3D"">someone to remove strut to fix it everything is =<br>
easy. Also super expensive.<br class=3D"">Never had to remove rudder<br =<br>
class=3D""><br class=3D"">The downside was that only was cutlass bearing =<br>
worn but so was shaft at same<br class=3D"">place. New shift was $1200 =<br>
CAD.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Mike<br class=3D"">Persistence<br =<br>
class=3D"">Halifax, NS<br =<br>
class=3D"">________________________________________<br class=3D"">From: =<br>
<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a></a><br class=3D"">[<a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a></a>] on behalf of Arthur =<br>
Kelley<br class=3D"">[<a href=3D"<a href="mailto:akelley@optonline.net"?">mailto:akelley@optonline.net"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:akelley@optonline.net">akelley@optonline.net</a></a>]<br class=3D"">Sent: February 3, =<br>
2016 7:55 PM<br class=3D"">To: <a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"?">mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a></a><br class=3D"">Subject: Re: =<br>
[frers-list]Cutlass Bearing Replacement Advice<br class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D"">My yard wanted to cut and replace the shaft, but similar =<br>
price.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I replaced mine myself without =<br>
removing the shaft. Cost me about $50 I<br class=3D"">think. This is the =<br>
professional tool to do the job. <a href=3D"<a href="http://www.strutpro.com/" target="_blank">http://www.strutpro.com/</a>" =<br>
class=3D""><a href="http://www.strutpro.com/</a><br" target="_blank">http://www.strutpro.com/</a><br</a> class=3D""><br class=3D"">If =<br>
you poke about on the Internet there are plans to build the tool<br =<br>
class=3D"">yourself. &nbsp;It's nothing more than a couple of plates, =<br>
one with a 1" hole<br class=3D"">(remove prop anyway) and the other with =<br>
a 1" slot to slide over the leading<br class=3D"">side. A couple of =<br>
hefty threaded rods and a sleeve, which is the trickiest<br =<br>
class=3D"">part to size. Here is a video <a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#</a>" =<br>
class=3D""><a href="https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#</a><br" target="_blank">https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3DGZQHLvUUyuE#</a><br</a> =<br>
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Another club member needed to do the same job =<br>
and he's a machinist. I<br class=3D"">provided the plans, threaded rods =<br>
and nuts and he made the plates and sleeve<br class=3D"">(collet) out of =<br>
scraps.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">2 set screws on one side, don't =<br>
remember which, came out easily but I was<br class=3D"">prepared for the =<br>
worst.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">I think it only took me an hour or =<br>
two.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Art<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On =<br>
Feb 3, 2016, at 5:43 PM, mart=EDn contal<br class=3D"">&lt;<a =<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca"?">mailto:martin06@contal.ca"</a> class=3D""><a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca">martin06@contal.ca</a></a>&lt;<a=<br>
href=3D"<a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca"?">mailto:martin06@contal.ca"</a> =<br>
class=3D""><a href="mailto:martin06@contal.ca</a>>>?">mailto:martin06@contal.ca</a>&gt;&gt</a>; wrote:<br class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D"">Hi everyone, I'm re-posting this message since I've been =<br>
having some issues<br class=3D"">with my frers-list registration. Hope =<br>
it'll work now:<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">My surveyor indicated that =<br>
I need to replace the cutlass bearing and the<br class=3D"">shipyard =<br>
where "austral" currently stays is quoting me the following:<br =<br>
class=3D""><br class=3D"">"Remove rudder to remove shaft, pull prop and =<br>
shaft and replace cutlass<br class=3D"">bearing:12 hrs of labour =<br>
US$1,276 total ".<br class=3D"">I'm told that they cannot remove the =<br>
shaft without removing the rudder.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Knowing =<br>
that my rudder seems to be OK and having read the many posts about<br =<br>
class=3D"">rudder bearing issues, etc. I rather leave it undisturbed. =<br>
So, I've gone<br class=3D"">through all the frers-list archives since =<br>
2004 to this date, as well as the<br class=3D"">FAQs in search of tips. =<br>
Seems to me that it shouldn't be necessary to remove<br class=3D"">the =<br>
rudder at all.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">If anyone who went through =<br>
this work could share some advice and experience<br class=3D"">it'll be =<br>
much appreciated! (I need to confirm go/no-go by next week).<br =<br>
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Martin<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =<br>
class=3D"">martin contal<br class=3D"">: : austral<br class=3D"">ottawa, =<br>
canada<br class=3D"">613 286 7189<br =<br>
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