[frers-list]Sails
David Nauber
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Wed, 29 Apr 2020 13:38:53 +0000 (UTC)
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Hi Charley,
I have a North 3DL L/M #1 (black carbon) I am willing to depart with. I thi=
nk it is in good condition but I need to pull it out of the bag to confirm =
details. It was only used for weekend racing 2013-2014, Wednesday racing 20=
15-2016 and never cruised. I'll confirm a price once I have had a look, pro=
bably later today.
It has a No.6 luff rope. Most Frers 33s use a No.5, so you would probably n=
eed to have a sailmaker change that.
Let me know if it is of interest.
Regards,
Dave NauberWolverine860-301-7011
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Anyone have some not-too-abused sails that they might be willing to sell?=
=C2=A0 I am on the fence as to whether to go in the water this year because=
I don=E2=80=99t have any decent sails =C2=A0left and temporarily no budget=
for anything new.
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I could use a main and a number one jib.=C2=A0 Or a number 2.=C2=A0 Open to=
non-racing sails as well as sails cut for rollers, if they have decent sha=
pe.
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Feel free to text me or email me directly.
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Thanks guys!
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Charley Beal
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(Relentless)
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre=
rs33.com]On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:30 AM
To: 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'
Subject: [frers-list]RE: Propeller Sizing
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Persistence came with Martec Eliptical RH16DX14 P-3=C2=A0
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I swapped that out for a Flex o Fold two years ago.
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With the Martec we could get the boat up to 6.7 knots on flat water no wind=
at about 3000 RPM (WOT is 3400).
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Persistence has the oversized 3GM30F which likely makes a big difference in=
pitch and sizing.
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The Martec prop is available and has about 8 =E2=80=93 10 years on it
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Mike Hoyt
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Persistence
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Frers 33 #16
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Halifax, NS
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www.hoytsailing.com
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.co=
m>On Behalf Of Brian Higgins
Sent: March 26, 2020 11:25 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Propeller Sizing
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When running at 2900RPM (race clean & prepped bottom) in pretty flat (<1ft =
seas) water and light wind, I'm usually doing about 5.2-5.4kts, where it se=
ems like I should be doing at least 6kts at that RPM.=C2=A0 Further I=E2=80=
=99ve never found where the throttle actually stops because it reaches max =
RPM before it runs out of power (also suggesting not enough propeller).
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My prop is the same Martec 16x10 two blade folding prop that at least a cou=
ple other boats have (I definitely spied on a few of your props in the boat=
yard recently=F0=9F=98=88).=C2=A0 Does anyone have experience going to a hi=
gher pitch, something like a 12=E2=80=9D opposed to the 10=E2=80=9D?=C2=A0 =
Some generic calculations I looked up suggested a 13=E2=80=9D, and =C2=A0Ga=
ry from Martec said he too thought 10 was underpitched for the boat but sug=
gested 12 as probably the right pitch.=C2=A0 Before I send the prop off (it=
=E2=80=99s already removed for the cutlass bearing replacement), I wanted t=
o check and see if anyone has done testing and played with repitching the p=
rop.
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">I have a North 3DL L/M #1 (black carbon) I am willing to depart with. I t=
hink it is in good condition but I need to pull it out of the bag to confir=
m details. It was only used for weekend racing 2013-2014, Wednesday racing =
2015-2016 and never cruised. I'll confirm a price once I have had a look, p=
robably later today.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">It has a No.6 luff rope. Most Frers =
33s use a No.5, so you would probably need to have a sailmaker change that.=
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a-setdir=3D"false">Let me know if it is of interest.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Rega=
rds,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
data-setdir=3D"false">Dave Nauber</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fal=
se">Wolverine</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">860-301-7011</div=
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D=
;">Anyone have some not-too-abused sails that they might be willing to sell=
? I am on the fence as to whether to go in the water this year becaus=
e I don=E2=80=99t have any decent sails left and temporarily no budge=
t for
anything new.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D=
;"> </span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D=
;">I could use a main and a number one jib. Or a number 2. Open=
to non-racing sails as well as sails cut for rollers, if they have decent =
shape.</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D=
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D=
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hoyt, Mike<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 26, 2020 11:30 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'<br>
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Persist=
ence came with Martec Eliptical RH16DX14 P-3
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I swapp=
ed that out for a Flex o Fold two years ago.</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">With th=
e Martec we could get the boat up to 6.7 knots on flat water no wind at abo=
ut 3000 RPM (WOT is 3400).</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Persist=
ence has the oversized 3GM30F which likely makes a big difference in pitch =
and sizing.</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">The Mar=
tec prop is available and has about 8 =E2=80=93 10 years on it</span></p>=
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mike Ho=
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ence</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Frers 3=
3 #16</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Halifax=
, NS</span></p>=20
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Brian Higgins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> March 26, 2020 11:25 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Propeller Sizing</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal">When running at 2900RPM (rac=
e clean & prepped bottom) in pretty flat (<1ft seas) water and light=
wind, I'm usually doing about 5.2-5.4kts, where it seems like I should be =
doing at least 6kts at that RPM. Further I=E2=80=99ve never found whe=
re
the throttle actually stops because it reaches max RPM before it runs out =
of power (also suggesting not enough propeller).</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe1428a5byiv3098735743MsoNormal">My prop is the same Martec 1=
6x10 two blade folding prop that at least a couple other boats have (I defi=
nitely spied on a few of your props in the boatyard recently
<span style=3D"font-family:UI;">=F0=9F=98=88</span>). Does anyone hav=
e experience going to a higher pitch, something like a 12=E2=80=9D opposed =
to the 10=E2=80=9D? Some generic calculations I looked up suggested a=
13=E2=80=9D, and Gary from Martec said he too thought
10 was underpitched for the boat but suggested 12 as probably the right pi=
tch. Before I send the prop off (it=E2=80=99s already removed for the=
cutlass bearing replacement), I wanted to check and see if anyone has done=
testing and played with repitching the prop.</p>=20
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