[frers-list]Dodger Or Not
Gina Stone
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Wed, 5 Aug 2020 13:47:06 -0400
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Mike,
Just curious do you have a photo with the Bimini open?=20
I priced one out a few years ago, and the company that estimated it came =
up with a bimini that was going to be only about a foot and a half wide, =
and it would have had a clearance of about 5 feet from the cockpit =
floor=E2=80=A6.not very useful.
If the Bimini on Persistence is larger and higher that that I=E2=80=99d =
like to see about getting one for Frequent Flyer.
Thank you,
Gina Stone
Frequent Flyer
> On Aug 5, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Hoyt, Mike <Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com> wrote:
>=20
> Persistence has a dodger and a bimini.
> =20
> These are easily removed and spend little time on the boat. However =
for a delivery the dodger is great and for cruising the combination of =
dodger and bimini is quite nice. When the boat first arrived in Halifax =
my wife took one look at the bimini and said that it had to go. However =
when we cruise the two features we like most about the boat are hot =
water and the bimini. There is a connector that joins bimini to dodger =
for when at anchor in the rain. We can actually sit in the cockpit and =
stay pretty dry
> =20
> In a typical year the bimini and the dodger stay in storage in the =
house except for cruising of in the dodger case for deliveries. In this =
Covid year boat are on the boat and rolled up for our Wednesday racing
> =20
> We have raced Persistence a lot over the past 7 seasons and would =
likely never have purchased a doger let alone a bimini but since we have =
them we take the opportunity to enjoy them. Especially when sitting at =
anchor on vacation last week in hot sunny conditions the shade is very =
much appreciated.
> =20
> Either keep it or sell it your choice. These are good things to have =
though
> =20
> There are pictures with the dodger in place at this web address =
http://www.hoytsailing.com/persistence_gallery.htm =
<http://www.hoytsailing.com/persistence_gallery.htm>
> =20
> Mike
> Persistence=20
> Halifax, NS
> www.hoytsail;ing.com <http://www.hoytsail;ing.com/>
> =20
> =20
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
<mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com> =
<frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
<mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com>> On Behalf Of =
akelley@optonline.net <mailto:akelley@optonline.net>
> Sent: August 1, 2020 10:01 AM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com <mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> Subject: RE: [frers-list]Dodger Or Not
> =20
> John,
> =20
> I think I have heard mention of several with dodgers. If I cruised I =
would look to install one since some of our deliveries have been brutal, =
but since all we do is race and the occasional day sail, it would only =
be in the way.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99d say, if you=E2=80=99ve got it, try it. You=E2=80=99ll =
probably like it. And if not you can always take it off again.
> =20
> Art
> Brilliant #55
> =20
> =20
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
<mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com> =
<frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
<mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com>> On Behalf Of John Aquino
> Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 8:07 AM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com <mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> Subject: [frers-list]Dodger Or Not
> =20
> Since we purchased Moose, we have sailed Narragansett Bay, Vineyard =
and Nantucket Sounds. We have been very happy with this boat.
> =20
> The boat came with a dodger which has been removed. In all the Frers =
33 photos, there is only one with a small dodger, =E2=80=9Caustral,=E2=80=9D=
hull 51. It appears that the consensus is no dodger is better.
> =20
> I thought to restore the dodger as the consensus beyond frers33.com =
<http://frers33.com/> is that dodgers enhance the sailing experience.
> =20
> We rarely sail with more than 4 people, and often 2.
> =20
> Does anyone have experience on their boat with and without the dodger, =
to any comments to offer on why none of the boats have dodgers now?
> =20
> Thanks.
> =20
> John Aquino
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Mike,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Just =
curious do you have a photo with the Bimini open? </div><div =
class=3D"">I priced one out a few years ago, and the company that =
estimated it came up with a bimini that was going to be only about a =
foot and a half wide, and it would have had a clearance of about 5 feet =
from the cockpit floor=E2=80=A6.not very useful.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">If the Bimini on Persistence is larger =
and higher that that I=E2=80=99d like to see about getting one for =
Frequent Flyer.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thank you,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Gina Stone</div><div class=3D""><i class=3D"">Frequent =
Flyer</i></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D""><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug =
5, 2020, at 1:37 PM, Hoyt, Mike <<a =
href=3D"mailto:Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com" =
class=3D"">Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: Times-Roman; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">Persistence has a dodger and a bimini.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">These are easily removed and spend little =
time on the boat. However for a delivery the dodger is great and =
for cruising the combination of dodger and bimini is quite nice. =
When the boat first arrived in Halifax my wife took one look at the =
bimini and said that it had to go. However when we cruise the two =
features we like most about the boat are hot water and the bimini. =
There is a connector that joins bimini to dodger for when at anchor in =
the rain. We can actually sit in the cockpit and stay pretty =
dry<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span class=3D"">In a typical year the =
bimini and the dodger stay in storage in the house except for cruising =
of in the dodger case for deliveries. In this Covid year boat are =
on the boat and rolled up for our Wednesday racing<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">We have raced Persistence a lot over the =
past 7 seasons and would likely never have purchased a doger let alone a =
bimini but since we have them we take the opportunity to enjoy =
them. Especially when sitting at anchor on vacation last week in =
hot sunny conditions the shade is very much appreciated.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">Either keep it or sell it your choice. =
These are good things to have though<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">There are pictures with the dodger in place =
at this web address<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"http://www.hoytsailing.com/persistence_gallery.htm" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://www.hoytsailing.com/persistence_gallery.htm</a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"">Mike<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span class=3D"">Persistence<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">Halifax, NS<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://www.hoytsail;ing.com/" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">www.hoytsail;ing.com</a><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
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font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a =
href=3D"mailto:akelley@optonline.net" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">akelley@optonline.net</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>August 1, 2020 10:01 AM<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [frers-list]Dodger Or =
Not<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">John,<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I think =
I have heard mention of several with dodgers. If I cruised I would =
look to install one since some of our deliveries have been brutal, but =
since all we do is race and the occasional day sail, it would only be in =
the way.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99d say, if you=E2=80=99=
ve got it, try it. You=E2=80=99ll probably like it. And if =
not you can always take it off again.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Art<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Brilliant #55<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>John Aquino<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Saturday, August 01, 2020 =
8:07 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[frers-list]Dodger Or =
Not<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Since we purchased Moose, we =
have sailed Narragansett Bay, Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds. We have =
been very happy with this boat.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">The boat came with a dodger which has been removed. In all =
the Frers 33 photos, there is only one with a small dodger, =
=E2=80=9Caustral,=E2=80=9D hull 51. It appears that the consensus is no =
dodger is better.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">I thought to restore the dodger as the consensus beyond<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"http://frers33.com/" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: =
underline;" class=3D"">frers33.com</a> is that dodgers enhance the =
sailing experience.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">We rarely sail with more than 4 people, and often 2.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Does =
anyone have experience on their boat with and without the dodger, to any =
comments to offer on why none of the boats have dodgers now?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Thanks.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">John =
Aquino</span></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></body></html>=
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