[frers-list]Dodger Or Not

David Nauber frers-list@lists.frers33.com
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 Great photo set Mike. She looks beautiful.
Dave
    On Wednesday, August 5, 2020, 01:37:55 PM GMT-4, Hoyt, Mike <mike.hoyt@=
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Persistence has a dodger and a bimini.
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These are easily removed and spend little time on the boat.=C2=A0 However f=
or a delivery the dodger is great and for cruising the combination of dodge=
r and bimini is quite nice.=C2=A0 When the boat first arrived in Halifax my=
 wife took one look at the bimini and said that it had to go.=C2=A0 However=
 when we cruise the two features we like most about the boat are hot water =
and the bimini.=C2=A0 There is a connector that joins bimini to dodger for =
when at anchor in the rain.=C2=A0 We can actually sit in the cockpit and st=
ay pretty dry
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In a typical year the bimini and the dodger stay in storage in the house ex=
cept for cruising of in the dodger case for deliveries.=C2=A0 In this Covid=
 year boat are on the boat and rolled up for our Wednesday racing
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We have raced Persistence a lot over the past 7 seasons and would likely ne=
ver have purchased a doger let alone a bimini but since we have them we tak=
e the opportunity to enjoy them.=C2=A0 Especially when sitting at anchor on=
 vacation last week in hot sunny conditions the shade is very much apprecia=
ted.
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Either keep it or sell it your choice.=C2=A0 These are good things to have =
though
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There are pictures with the dodger in place at this web addresshttp://www.h=
oytsailing.com/persistence_gallery.htm
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Mike
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Persistence=20
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Halifax, NS
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www.hoytsail;ing.com
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.co=
m>On Behalf Of akelley@optonline.net
Sent: August 1, 2020 10:01 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Dodger Or Not
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John,
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I think I have heard mention of several with dodgers.=C2=A0 If I cruised I =
would look to install one since some of our deliveries have been brutal, bu=
t since all we do is race and the occasional day sail, it would only be in =
the way.
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I=E2=80=99d say, if you=E2=80=99ve got it, try it.=C2=A0 You=E2=80=99ll pro=
bably like it.=C2=A0 And if not you can always take it off again.
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Art
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Brilliant #55
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From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.co=
m>On Behalf Of John Aquino
Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2020 8:07 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Dodger Or Not
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Since we purchased Moose, we have sailed Narragansett Bay, Vineyard and Nan=
tucket Sounds. We have been very happy with this boat.
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The boat came with a dodger which has been removed. In all the Frers 33 pho=
tos, there is only one with a small dodger, =E2=80=9Caustral,=E2=80=9D hull=
 51. It appears that the consensus is no dodger is better.
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I thought to restore the dodger as the consensus beyondfrers33.com=C2=A0is =
that dodgers enhance the sailing experience.
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We rarely sail with more than 4 people, and often 2.
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Does anyone have experience on their boat with and without the dodger, to a=
ny comments to offer on why none of the boats have dodgers now?
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Thanks.
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John Aquino
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>These are easily removed and spend little time on the boat.&nbsp; However =
for a delivery the dodger is great and for cruising the combination of dodg=
er and bimini is quite nice.&nbsp; When the boat first arrived
 in Halifax my wife took one look at the bimini and said that it had to go.=
&nbsp; However when we cruise the two features we like most about the boat =
are hot water and the bimini.&nbsp; There is a connector that joins bimini =
to dodger for when at anchor in the rain.&nbsp;
 We can actually sit in the cockpit and stay pretty dry</span></p>=20
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>In a typical year the bimini and the dodger stay in storage in the house e=
xcept for cruising of in the dodger case for deliveries.&nbsp; In this Covi=
d year boat are on the boat and rolled up for our Wednesday
 racing</span></p>=20
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> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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>We have raced Persistence a lot over the past 7 seasons and would likely n=
ever have purchased a doger let alone a bimini but since we have them we ta=
ke the opportunity to enjoy them.&nbsp; Especially
 when sitting at anchor on vacation last week in hot sunny conditions the s=
hade is very much appreciated.</span></p>=20
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> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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>Either keep it or sell it your choice.&nbsp; These are good things to have=
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>There are pictures with the dodger in place at this web address
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m" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">http://www.hoytsailing.com/persistenc=
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
>Mike</span></p>=20
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ists.frers33.com &lt;frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>akelley@optonline.net<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> August 1, 2020 10:01 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [frers-list]Dodger Or Not</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">I think I have heard mention of several with dodgers.&nbsp;=
 If I cruised I would look to install one since some of our deliveries have=
 been brutal, but since all we do is race and the occasional day sail, it w=
ould only be
 in the way.</span></p>=20
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 lang=3D"EN-US"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">I=E2=80=99d say, if you=E2=80=99ve got it, try it.&nbsp; Yo=
u=E2=80=99ll probably like it.&nbsp; And if not you can always take it off =
again.</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">Art</span></p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Aquino<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, August 01, 2020 8:07 AM<br clear=3D"none">
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">Since we purchased Moose, we have sailed Narragansett Bay, =
Vineyard and Nantucket Sounds. We have been very happy with this boat.</spa=
n></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">The boat came with a dodger which has been removed. In all =
the Frers 33 photos, there is only one with a small dodger, =E2=80=9Caustra=
l,=E2=80=9D hull 51. It appears that the consensus is no dodger is better.<=
/span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">I thought to restore the dodger as the consensus beyond
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://frers33.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">frers33.com</a>&nbsp;is that dodgers enhance the sailing experience.<=
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
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<p class=3D"ydpbf48b51yiv6451381798ydp939335c7yiv4220641187MsoNormal"><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US">Does anyone have experience on their boat with and without =
the dodger, to any comments to offer on why none of the boats have dodgers =
now?</span></p>=20
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