[frers-list]removing rudder quadrant
Robert Connell
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Tue, 3 Nov 2020 18:14:04 -0500
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Mike, that front half of the quadrant May be hung up on the keyway, we have h=
ad good luck with =E2=80=9CBreak Free=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9C Kroil Oil=E2=80=
=9D, let it set for a couple of days it that does not loosen it up it may ta=
ke heat, just keep a fire extinguisher near by. Hope this helps.=20
Bob
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 3, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Hoyt, Mike <Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com> wrote:
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> Thanks Art
> =20
> Will try that as well. Had not thought about upward/downward but that mak=
es a lot of sense. Likely also heat. I do plan to reuse it.
> =20
> Last year I replaced bulkheads in two different J22s. That also was a cra=
mped space. I am familiar with weird pains/strains form that. Actually at o=
ne time thought was having chest pain and went to see Dr. Was craped hammer=
swinging J22 pain =E2=80=A6 nothing serious in the end
> =20
> Mike
> =20
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com <frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.c=
om> On Behalf Of Art Kelley
> Sent: November 3, 2020 4:18 PM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Subject: Re: [frers-list]removing rudder quadrant
> =20
> Did you try banging downward on the rim of the quadrant? Maybe up and dow=
n to break the corrosion free? Not too hard if you are trying to reuse it. O=
therwise maybe a propane torch on the quadrant near but not too close to the=
shaft?
> =20
> I remember mine was brutal, certainly involved penetrating oil, torches an=
d probably even a saw. I also had a long term shoulder strain from swinging a=
small sledge hammer in that tight space.=20
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> Art
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> On Nov 3, 2020, at 12:29 PM, Hoyt, Mike <Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com> wrote:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Hi all
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> Looking for any hints on removing quadrant from rudder post. So far I hav=
e successfully removed the bolts holding the two halves together and removed=
the aft half of quadrant from post. Forward half currently soaking in pene=
trating oil as early attempts with rubber mallet and hammer with block of wo=
od have not budged it.
> =20
> Any thoughts?
> =20
> Also any hints on removing the bearings if and when I get the rudder dropp=
ed?
> =20
> Progress is on link at bottom of www.hoytsailing.com
> =20
> Thanks
> =20
> Mike Hoyt
> Persistence
> 1987 Frers 33 #16
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e hung up on the keyway, we have had good luck with =E2=80=9CBreak Free=E2=80=
=9D and =E2=80=9C Kroil Oil=E2=80=9D, let it set for a couple of days it tha=
t does not loosen it up it may take heat, just keep a fire extinguisher near=
by. Hope this helps. <div>Bob<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" di=
r=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Nov 3, 2020, at 3:2=
3 PM, Hoyt, Mike <<a href=3D"mailto:Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com">Mike.Hoyt@imp=
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ibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Will try that as well.&nbs=
p; Had not thought about upward/downward but that makes a lot of sense. =
; Likely also heat. I do plan to reuse it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Last year I replaced bulkh=
eads in two different J22s. That also was a cramped space. I am f=
amiliar with weird pains/strains form that. Actually
at one time thought was having chest pain and went to see Dr. Was cra=
ped hammer swinging J22 pain =E2=80=A6 nothing serious in the end<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Art Kelley<br>
<b>Sent:</b> November 3, 2020 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.=
frers33.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [frers-list]removing rudder quadrant<o:p></o:p></span></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Did you try banging downward on the rim of the quadra=
nt? Maybe up and down to break the corrosion free? Not too hard i=
f you are trying to reuse it. Otherwise maybe a propane torch on the quadran=
t near but not too close to the shaft?<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I remember mine was br=
utal, certainly involved penetrating oil, torches and probably even a saw. I=
also had a long term shoulder strain from swinging a small sledge hammer in=
that tight space. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Art<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On Nov 3, 2020, at 12:=
29 PM, Hoyt, Mike <<a href=3D"mailto:Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com">Mike.Hoyt@im=
pgroup.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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ibri",sans-serif">Hi all</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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ri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Looking for any hints on removing quadrant from rudder p=
ost. So far I have successfully removed the bolts holding the two halv=
es together and removed the aft half of quadrant
from post. Forward half currently soaking in penetrating oil as early=
attempts with rubber mallet and hammer with block of wood have not budged i=
t.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Any thoughts?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Also any hints on removing the bearings if and when I g=
et the rudder dropped?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Progress is on link at bottom of
<a href=3D"http://www.hoytsailing.com">www.hoytsailing.com</a></span><o:p></=
o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Thanks</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Mike Hoyt</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">Persistence</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif">1987 Frers 33 #16</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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