[frers-list]RE: Dripless Stuffing Box

Arnold Lesser frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Mon, 24 May 2021 23:40:21 -0400


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I had a drip less system consisting of a rubber bellows against a stainless r=
ing put in by the yard worked great for years but last season when I was lau=
nched it was leaking=20
Owner of the yard told me to use sand paper or a rag to clean the interface.=
 It never happened for the rest of the season. =20
Then this year when I was launched I started the engine and this time I had s=
ignificant water pouring in from there again wiping the interface stopped th=
e problem. But to be honest I am nervous every time I go out
May be a maintenance problem but very disconcerting
Sent from my iPhone

> On May 24, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Brian Higgins <brian@sailingit.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I did the rather painful job of repacking the stuffing box this spring, I c=
an 2nd the fact it=E2=80=99s not easy to fit in there.   I too would love to=
 go to a dripless, but it=E2=80=99s so difficult to reach stuff I=E2=80=99m n=
ot sure how to physically get it done.
> =20
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> =20
> From: Charles S. Beal
> Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 3:35 PM
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Subject: [frers-list]Dripless Stuffing Box
> =20
> Has anyone gone to a Dripless Stuffing Box?  My height and steadily increa=
sing size (as well as limited flexibility) make it hard for me to get to it t=
o make adjustments and, despite fairly regular adjustments to the box (with h=
elp), I seem to have a fairly steady leak, much of which makes it to the flo=
orboards, particularly if I am not on the boat for a few days.  I would like=
 to have a dryer alternative.
> =20
> If anyone has done it, what brand or model did you use and how much of a p=
roject was it?  Are you happy you did it?  Any cautionary tales or warnings?=

> =20
> Thanks in advance.
> =20
> Charley Beal
> Relentless
> =20
> From: frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fr=
ers33.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike
> Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 12:43 PM
> To: 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'
> Subject: [frers-list]Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF
> =20
> =20
> This was from another group a few years ago.  I also recall something abou=
t Johnson pumps
> =20
> Hope this helps.
> =20
> Mike
> =20
> From: CnC-List <cnc-list-bounces@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Matthew Schlan=
ger via CnC-List
> Sent: July 26, 2017 12:26 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Matthew Schlanger <matt@blackhammer.com>
> Subject: Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF
> =20
> Thank you for all who responded.=20
> FYI
> =20
> As my current mechanic does not have confidence that the repair is a good i=
dea, I am opting to buy a new pump.
> =20
> I used this suggested link for source (thank you):
> http://www.depcopump.com/
> I spoke to Jim who was really helpful.
> =20
> It seems I have a Yanmar #721575-42702 pump on the boat
> This means the boat was marinized in the states and their price was simila=
r - $528
> But there is also a Yanmar #128397-42500 pump for boats that were marinize=
d in Europe. - $242
> Jim says they are interchangeable - I opt to save the $300.
> I think this is why many of you say they spent less. You might have had th=
e other pump or substituted for it.
> The two pumps have different Impellers - the less expensive one I think ha=
s a split shaft.
> Interesting I think I noticed Joel had both kinds of impellers on the boat=
.
> =20
> I will send the old pump out for repair and either keep it as a back up or=
 sell one.
> =20
> Thanks again.
> =20
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C&C 35 Mk3
> Nyack, NY
> =20
> On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:57 PM, ahycrace via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>=
 wrote:
> =20
> Fix the pump if possible=20
> =20
> Gary Kolc "Liberty"
> =20
> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
> =20
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Date: 7/25/17 11:45 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: Matthew Schlanger <matt@blackhammer.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF
> =20
> I was wondering if anyone knew of sources for replacement water pumps for m=
y Yanmar 3GMF.
> It=E2=80=99s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacem=
ent!
>=20
> Are there reasonable alternatives?
>=20
> Thanks
>=20
>=20
> Matthew Schlanger
> The Office
> C&C 35 MKIII
>=20
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utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I had a drip less system consisting of a ru=
bber bellows against a stainless ring put in by the yard worked great for ye=
ars but last season when I was launched it was leaking&nbsp;<div>Owner of th=
e yard told me to use sand paper or a rag to clean the interface. It never h=
appened for the rest of the season. &nbsp;<br>Then this year when I was laun=
ched I started the engine and this time I had significant water pouring in f=
rom there again wiping the interface stopped the problem. But to be honest I=
 am nervous every time I go out</div><div>May be a maintenance problem but v=
ery disconcerting<br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 24, 2021, at 3:57 PM, Brian Higgins=
 &lt;brian@sailingit.com&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I did the rather painful job of repacking the stuffin=
g box this spring, I can 2<sup>nd</sup> the fact it=E2=80=99s not easy to fi=
t in there.&nbsp;&nbsp; I too would love to go to a dripless, but it=E2=80=99=
s so difficult to reach stuff I=E2=80=99m not sure how to physically
 get it done.</p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:cbeal@beallawllc.com">Charles S. Beal</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Monday, May 24, 2021 3:35 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.=
frers33.com</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[frers-list]Dripless Stuffing Box</p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Has anyone gone to a Dr=
ipless Stuffing Box?&nbsp; My height and steadily increasing size (as well a=
s limited flexibility) make it hard for me to get to it to make adjustments a=
nd, despite fairly regular adjustments
 to the box (with help), I seem to have a fairly steady leak, much of which m=
akes it to the floorboards, particularly if I am not on the boat for a few d=
ays.&nbsp; I would like to have a dryer alternative.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">If anyone has done it, w=
hat brand or model did you use and how much of a project was it?&nbsp; Are y=
ou happy you did it?&nbsp; Any cautionary tales or warnings?<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks in advance.<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Charley Beal<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Relentless<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span=
></p>
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in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;=
Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,sans-serif"> frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com [=
mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Hoyt, Mike<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 21, 2021 12:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'frers-list@lists.frers33.com'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF<o:p></o:p></span></p>=

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">This was from another group a fe=
w years ago.&nbsp; I also recall something about Johnson pumps
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Hope this helps.<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> CnC-List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnc-list-=
bounces@cnc-list.com">cnc-list-bounces@cnc-list.com</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matthew Schlanger via CnC-List<br>
<b>Sent:</b> July 26, 2017 12:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com">cnc-list@cnc-list.com</a=
><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Matthew Schlanger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:matt@blackhammer.com">mat=
t@blackhammer.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: Stus-List Water pump for Yanmar 3GMF<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Thank you for all who responded.=
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">FYI<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">As my current mechanic does not h=
ave confidence that the repair is a good idea, I am opting to buy a new pump=
.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I used this suggested link for s=
ource (thank you):<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><a href=3D"http://www.depcopump.=
com/">http://www.depcopump.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I spoke to Jim who was really he=
lpful.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">It seems I have a Yanmar #721575=
-42702 pump on the boat<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">This means the boat was marinize=
d in the states and their price was similar - $528<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">But there is also a Yanmar #1283=
97-42500 pump for boats that were marinized in Europe. - $242<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Jim says they are interchangeabl=
e - I opt to save the $300.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I think this is why many of you s=
ay they spent less. You might have had the other pump or substituted for it.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">The two pumps have different Imp=
ellers - the less expensive one I think has a split shaft.<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Interesting I think I noticed Jo=
el had both kinds of impellers on the boat.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I will send the old pump out for=
 repair and either keep it as a back up or sell one.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Thanks again.<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Matthew Schlanger<br>
The Office<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">C&amp;C 35 Mk3<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Nyack, NY<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">On Jul 25, 2017, at 4:57 PM, ahy=
crace via CnC-List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com">cnc-list@cnc=
-list.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Fix the pump if possible&nbsp;<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Gary Kolc "Liberty"<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">From: Matthew Schlanger via CnC-=
List &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com">cnc-list@cnc-list.com</a>&=
gt;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Date: 7/25/17 11:45 AM (GMT-05:0=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">To: <a href=3D"mailto:cnc-list@c=
nc-list.com">
cnc-list@cnc-list.com</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Cc: Matthew Schlanger &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:matt@blackhammer.com">matt@blackhammer.com</a>&gt;
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">Subject: Stus-List Water pump fo=
r Yanmar 3GMF
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-CA">I was wondering if anyone knew o=
f sources for replacement water pumps for my Yanmar 3GMF.<br>
It=E2=80=99s leaking and Yanmar wants $549 for an official Yanmar replacemen=
t!<br>
<br>
Are there reasonable alternatives?<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
<br>
Matthew Schlanger<br>
The Office<br>
C&amp;C 35 MKIII<br>
<br>
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