[MWForum]books
Harvey Bornfield
mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
Tue, 09 Mar 2004 11:04:47 -0700
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To Karen, Wendi, Ray,
I e-mailed Sharon Yoder yesterday regarding her MW tutorials; They are
alive and well, and available at www.skyiespublishing.com.........
warm regards,
Harvey
At 11:53 AM 3/8/2004, you wrote:
>I have a few remarks on the matter of MW books:
>
>1) From what I understand, after the early versions of MW, LCSI made the
>decision to focus on software itself rather than on printed manuals and
>supplementary resources. Sharon Yoder (not affiliated with LCSI) wrote
>several books on MW 2.0 which are now out of print. I bought them but did
>not find them as helpful as LCSI's early print materials.
>
>2) I believe I've read recently that LCSI has recently produced a book on
>MicroWorlds EX, but I can find no mention of it on their site or anywhere
>else. Perhaps it is still in production. (Also, MW EX comes with more
>helpful resources built into the software, including tutorials and
>projects.)
>
>3) After Jim Muller wrote "The Great Logo Adventure" (which focused on
>MSWLogo but much of it is applicable to all versions of Logo), he mentioned
>on the LogoForum list that in the future he would stick to electronic
>distribution of Logo writings. And his book did become available for free,
>electronically, a year or two after it was published. I think part of his
>reasoning for shying away from print resources in the future is that it
>takes so long to bring a book to market and by then one wishes to make
>changes. As Ray points out, state-of-the-art computer software and related
>information is typically distributed through the Internet, and I'm sure that
>the main reasons are the ease of distribution and the ease of updating
>information.
>
>4) I agree that sometimes print materials are the easiest to use and to
>refer to, although perhaps that's only because we are all still adjusting to
>the world of electronic information. But I found it a huge help, years ago
>in the days of MW 1.0 and the first MW 2.0 for Mac, to refer to the print
>resources packaged with the software, including step-by-step projects.
>(Prior to that, I valued the old Logowriter activity cards.) I believe that
>some of these resources were included electronically in later versions on
>the CD but I don't think they are any more. I wonder if LCSI might consider
>placing some of these early MW resources in downloadable version on their
>website.
>
>5) I'd like to remind you that OpenWorld Learning has been developing a
>collection of online MW resources at the MicroWorlds in Action site -
>http://mia.openworldlearning.org. The project folders there guide users
>through building related projects of increasing complexity. The
>"educational context" materials in the Resources area give some background
>on the "Logo philosophy" and ideas on using MW in a constructivist computer
>lab. We would welcome your input and contribution of ideas, articles, "how
>do I" tips, etc., as we continue to build this online MW resource.
>
>Wendy Petti
>OWL's MicroWorlds in Action
>http://mia.openworldlearning.org
>Math Cats
>http://www.mathcats.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com
> > [mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com]On Behalf Of Ray Catzel
> > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:05 PM
> > To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com
> > Subject: RE: [MWForum]books
> >
> >
> > I believe the best resources for MicroWorlds is via the Internet - and why
> > not, since that is the medium through which any state of the art computer
> > software will distribute and publish information.
> > --------Ray Catzel
>
>
>
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To Karen, Wendi, Ray,<br><br>
I e-mailed Sharon Yoder yesterday regarding her MW tutorials; They are
alive and well, and available at
<a href=3D"http://www.skyiespublishing.com/"=
eudora=3D"autourl">www.skyiespublishing.com</a>.........<br><br>
warm regards,<br>
Harvey <br><br>
<br><br>
At 11:53 AM 3/8/2004, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite>I have a few remarks on the matter
of MW books:<br><br>
1) From what I understand, after the early versions of MW, LCSI made
the<br>
decision to focus on software itself rather than on printed manuals
and<br>
supplementary resources. Sharon Yoder (not affiliated with LCSI)
wrote<br>
several books on MW 2.0 which are now out of print. I bought them
but did<br>
not find them as helpful as LCSI's early print materials.<br><br>
2) I believe I've read recently that LCSI has recently produced a book
on<br>
MicroWorlds EX, but I can find no mention of it on their site or
anywhere<br>
else. Perhaps it is still in production. (Also, MW EX comes
with more<br>
helpful resources built into the software, including tutorials and<br>
projects.)<br><br>
3) After Jim Muller wrote "The Great Logo Adventure" (which
focused on<br>
MSWLogo but much of it is applicable to all versions of Logo), he
mentioned<br>
on the LogoForum list that in the future he would stick to
electronic<br>
distribution of Logo writings. And his book did become available
for free,<br>
electronically, a year or two after it was published. I think part
of his<br>
reasoning for shying away from print resources in the future is that
it<br>
takes so long to bring a book to market and by then one wishes to
make<br>
changes. As Ray points out, state-of-the-art computer software and
related<br>
information is typically distributed through the Internet, and I'm sure
that<br>
the main reasons are the ease of distribution and the ease of
updating<br>
information.<br><br>
4) I agree that sometimes print materials are the easiest to use and
to<br>
refer to, although perhaps that's only because we are all still adjusting
to<br>
the world of electronic information. But I found it a huge help,
years ago<br>
in the days of MW 1.0 and the first MW 2.0 for Mac, to refer to the
print<br>
resources packaged with the software, including step-by-step
projects.<br>
(Prior to that, I valued the old Logowriter activity cards.) I
believe that<br>
some of these resources were included electronically in later versions
on<br>
the CD but I don't think they are any more. I wonder if LCSI might
consider<br>
placing some of these early MW resources in downloadable version on
their<br>
website.<br><br>
5) I'd like to remind you that OpenWorld Learning has been developing
a<br>
collection of online MW resources at the MicroWorlds in Action site
-<br>
<a href=3D"http://mia.openworldlearning.org.=A0/" eudora=3D"autourl">http://=
mia.openworldlearning.org.
</a> The project folders there guide users<br>
through building related projects of increasing complexity.
The<br>
"educational context" materials in the Resources area give some
background<br>
on the "Logo philosophy" and ideas on using MW in a
constructivist computer<br>
lab. We would welcome your input and contribution of ideas,
articles, "how<br>
do I" tips, etc., as we continue to build this online MW
resource.<br><br>
Wendy Petti<br>
OWL's MicroWorlds in Action<br>
<a href=3D"http://mia.openworldlearning.org/"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://mia.openworldlearning.org</a><br>
Math Cats<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.mathcats.com/"=
eudora=3D"autourl">http://www.mathcats.com</a><br><br>
<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com<br>
>
[<a href=3D"mailto:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com" eudora=3D"autourl">mail=
to:mwforum-admin@lists.mathcats.com</a>]On
Behalf Of Ray Catzel<br>
> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 6:05 PM<br>
> To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com<br>
> Subject: RE: [MWForum]books<br>
><br>
><br>
> I believe the best resources for MicroWorlds is via the Internet -
and why<br>
> not, since that is the medium through which any state of the art
computer<br>
> software will distribute and publish information.<br>
> --------Ray Catzel<br><br>
<br><br>
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