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Wendy,
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Could you follow up with Steve to see if he=92s recommending MIA and MW
Forum to teachers in Northumberland, UK?
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Thanks,
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Chris
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Hi Karen,
I don't know whether this is helpful to you or not...=20
We are currently evaluating MicroWorlds EX here in Northumberland (UK)
in the context of improving teaching and learning in Key Stage 3 (12
-15). Although I have been using Logo for many years, it has had a low
professional profile and is therefore new to the majority of colleagues
who were unaware of the possibilities which lie beyond turtle graphics.
The reception has been extremely positive with both staff and students,
and following a period of evaluation, I would like to see the tool
embedded in the ICT curriculum, especially in the higher orders of study
where students are encouraged to develop projects independently.

Initially, the learning curve for teachers can be fairly steep, but this
is because the students are absorbing the program very quickly and
always want to know "How to ..." to develop their capacity. It seems
that once sufficient capacity has been generated, pupils can begin to
create increasingly sophisticated projects which demonstrate the higher
levels of skill and understanding that we would wish to see.
In short, a very powerful tool for developing teaching and learning that
I would like to see more widely used.
Hope this helps
Steve Robson
ICT Consultant
Northumberland LEA

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From: Karen Randall <krandall@ties2.net>=20
Reply-To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
To: mwforum@lists.mathcats.com=20
Subject: [MWForum]research project help=20
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 17:05:44 -0500=20
Greetings,=20
I'm taking a three-session university course on computer applications
and teaching and chose to learn more about the history of Logo for my
required research project. I've been enjoying working through on-line
papers on the topic but have a couple questions which they don't really
answer. I'd be interested in thoughts from people in this users group.
The deadline needs to be Sunday, July 11, though, if you'd like to
influence the conclusions in my presentation!=20
I used Logo in the 1980s, then lost track of it until introduced to
MicroWorlds a couple years ago. I'm curious as to its status in the
broader educational community of today, and the status of the "give kids
the tools to figure it out" philosophy which goes with it, at least in
regards to computing. My impression is that Logo users are like the
lone Apple computer fanatic in an office of PCs. Is this accurate?=20
In your opinion, how wide-spread is the use of Logo in 2004, in whatever
format?=20
Are the typical people who put together tech integration projects and
curriculum (as opposed to people who've been using Logo for the last 20
years) at all looking at Logo as part of their toolbox?=20
Are there parts of the US and world where Logo is more solidly part of
current instruction? (I read an article which projected that in Costa
Rica 50% of students would soon be using Logo (well, as of 1988). I
wonder if it came true, and stays true?)=20
With constructivism on the backswing of its popularity pendulum and
standards/testing/accountability on the front, how hard is it for you to
keep Logo as a tool and a philosophy in your technology implementation?=20
Thank you for any comments you'd care to share.=20
Karen Randall=20
krandall@ties2.net=20
Expo Elementary=20
Saint Paul, MN=20
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Karen,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

I don't
know whether this is helpful to you or not... =
<o:p></o:p>

We are
currently evaluating MicroWorlds EX here in Northumberland (UK) in the =
context
of improving teaching and learning in Key Stage 3 (12 -15). Although I =
have
been using Logo for many years, it has had a low professional profile =
and is
therefore new to the majority of colleagues who were unaware of the
possibilities which lie beyond turtle graphics. The reception has been
extremely positive with both staff and students, and following a period =
of
evaluation, I would like to see the tool embedded in the ICT curriculum,
especially in the higher orders of study where students are encouraged =
to
develop projects independently.<o:p></o:p>

Initially, the learning curve for teachers can be fairly steep, but this =
is
because the students are absorbing the program very quickly and always =
want to
know &quot;How to ...&quot; to develop their capacity. It seems that =
once
sufficient capacity has been generated, pupils can begin to create =
increasingly
sophisticated projects which demonstrate the higher levels of skill and
understanding that we would wish to see.<o:p></o:p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>In short,
a very powerful tool for developing teaching and learning that I would =
like to
see more widely used.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Hope this
helps<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Steve
Robson<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>ICT
Consultant<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Northumberland
LEA<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><br>
&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Greetings, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

I'm taking a three-session university course on computer =
applications
and teaching and chose to learn more about the history of Logo for my =
required
research project.&nbsp;&nbsp;I've been enjoying working through on-line =
papers
on the topic but have a couple questions which they don't really
answer.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'd be interested in thoughts from people in this =
users group.&nbsp;&nbsp;The
deadline needs to be Sunday, July 11, though, if you'd like to influence =
the
conclusions in my presentation! <o:p></o:p>

I used Logo in the 1980s, then lost track of it until introduced =
to
MicroWorlds a couple years ago. I'm curious as to its status in the =
broader
educational community of today, and the status of the &quot;give kids =
the tools
to figure it out&quot; philosophy which goes with it, at least in =
regards to
computing.&nbsp;&nbsp;My impression is that Logo users are like the lone =
Apple
computer fanatic in an office of PCs.&nbsp;&nbsp;Is this accurate? =
<o:p></o:p>

In your opinion, how wide-spread is the use of Logo in 2004, in
whatever format? <o:p></o:p>

Are the typical people who put together tech integration =
projects and
curriculum (as opposed to people who've been using Logo for the last 20 =
years) at
all looking at Logo as part of their toolbox? =
<o:p></o:p>

Are there parts of the US and world where Logo is more solidly =
part of
current instruction? (I read an article which projected that in Costa =
Rica 50%
of students would soon be using Logo (well, as of 1988).&nbsp;&nbsp;I =
wonder if
it came true, and stays true?) <o:p></o:p>

With constructivism on the backswing of its popularity pendulum =
and
standards/testing/accountability on the front, how hard is it for you to =
keep
Logo as a tool and a philosophy in your technology implementation? =
<o:p></o:p>

Thank you for any comments you'd care to share. =
<o:p></o:p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Karen Randall <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>krandall@ties2.net <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Expo Elementary <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Saint Paul, MN <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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