[shelby research]Mindreaders?

Judith A Trolinger shelby@lists.trolinger.com
Tue, 10 Sep 2002 10:20:53 -0500


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Hi Patsy,
  Not a lot seems to be known, and have yet to really prove a connection to 
the earlier known SHELBYs.

Hope this will help..
Judy

Andrew Abraham SHELBY was born on June 13, 1868 in Tuscaloosa Co, AL. 18 
miles N of Tusc. Co  He died in 1952 in OK.

SHELBY GENFORUM: Posted by Jolea (Shelby) Kirby <lavjol@pldi.net> on Mon, 
19 Jul 1999 [have lost touch with her]
   I am looking for information about my great grandparents.  William A 
Shelby and Eliza Shelby. Believed to have lived in Tuscaloosa CO. Ala. in 
1860. My grandfather is Andrew Abraham Shelby, born 1865, married America 
Elizabeth Wilson in 1892. Some of his brothers were William J,(1833), John 
T, (1858),  Denis(1860), James E(1866) married America Elizabeth's mother, 
Lucinda Wilson June 14,1887.

 From Johnnie M Johnson- to me via email...
.....the parents of Andrew Abraham Shelby was William A. Shelby b 1835 
Plum, Tuscaloosa AL in 1850 fed census and 1870 census there....married 12 
Jan 1858  in Tuscaloosa to Eliza Alexander.
  Wm A is son of John Shelby and Martha Jones; John was born in South 
Carolina -Johnnie  <peapicker2@aol.com>

Not sure who John Shelby's parents were. But he was was born about 1796 in 
Chester Co?, SC.  He died on December 11, 1875 in Kennedale, Tuscaloosa Co, 
AL. He served in the military Betw 1812 and 1815 in SC.
Military Rec - Service Pension, War 1812- Claim #20795- Act of 9 Mar 1878; 
Cert # 13641, Tusc Co, AL Widow's Brief -filed 9 Mar 1878 this county. John 
Shelby served as a Pvt in Capt Wm Welsh's CO, Inf. of SC, from 24 Sept 1814 
to 9 Mar 1815. Admitted 4 Dec 1878, to a pension of $8. per month, from 9 
Mar 1878 Bounty Land Claim- 32017-80-55, issued 10 Apr 1878.

Affidavits Statements for Proof of Claim for a Widows Pension for Mrs 
Martha SHELBY.  State of AL, Tuscaloosa Co 26 Jun 1878 "James BROWN who 
being by one duly sworn in oath states that he was b in 1799 the 5 Jany in 
the state of SC. That he was acquainted with John SHELBY in his life time. 
that he made his acquaintance abt the yr 1812 & bef his marr to Mrs Martha 
SHELBY, who he also knew bef her marr. He knew Mrs Martha SHELBY when her 
name was Martha JONES. He saw the said John SHELBY & Martha SHELBY liv 
together as man & wife in the yr 1817"...It was in the yr 1816 or 1817 in 
the State of SC. He has known them for 45 yrs in the State of AL... He knew 
John SHELBY went to the war in the fall of 1814 & participated in the 
Battle of New Orleans, Jan 13 1815.  Signed James (X) BROWN.  Sworn to & 
subscribed bef me this 25th day of Jun 1878, W.H.H. Baker, J.P. Wit's-James 
W FROST, George DOWD

Also this day....Nancy E FROST, ...states on oath that she is a dau of John 
& Martha SHELBY; her father is dead. He died at Kennedale Tuscaloosa Co; 
her mother is now living. The age of the witness is 48yrs (b 1830). She was 
b in TN (Co not given). She knew all of her brothers & sisters. Following 
this statement is a list of her bros & sis'- as shown on the FGS

She states "All of them are dead, except herself & her brother John M, the 
oldest child, who went to Brazil after the war & has never been heard from 
since [Virginia Lake says this is wrong]. If John M is living he would be 
abt 60 yrs of age. "I have lived in Tuscaloosa Co for over 40 yrs & still 
live there...I married Jackson G. FROST in 1849 & still liv with 
him...mother of 5 ch. She & James BROWN sign with their mark's.
John M SHELBY was born in 1818 in SC?.   He's age 32 1850 b GA with family. 
According to John'
sister, Nancy E FROST, in their mother's pension appl 1878,(for father in 
war of 1812) she states that only
she & her bro, John were still living. That he went to Brazil & was never 
heard from again.
                 ii.     Abigail SHELBY was born about 1821 in SC?. She 
died before 1878 in AL?.  Affidavit, 1878
                 iii.    Mary Ann SHELBY was born about 1824 in SC?. 
Affidavit, 1878  She died before 1878 in Tuscaloosa Co?, AL.  Affidavit, 1878
                 iv.     Emeranda SHELBY was born about 1826 in SC or 
TN.  She died before 1878 in AL?. Affidavit, 1878
                 v.      Martha Jane SHELBY was born about 1828 in SC or 
TN. She died before 1878 in AL?. Affidavit, 1878
                 vi.     Nancy E SHELBY was born in 1830 in TN.  Affidavit, 
1878  She died after 1878 in AL?.
                 vii.    William A SHELBY.
                 viii.   Elijah B SHELBY was born about 1836 in Tuscaloosa 
Co, AL. He died before 1870 in AL?.  Affidavit, 1878
                 ix.     James R SHELBY was born about 1840 in Tuscaloosa 
Co, AL. Affidavit, 1878,  He died before 1878 in AL?.
                 x.      Margaret A SHELBY was born about 1846 in 
Tuscaloosa Co, AL.  Affidavit, 1878  She died before 1878 in AL?.



















At 11:33 PM 9/2/02 -0600, you wrote:
>I'm looking for any and all ancestors connected to Andrew Abraham Shelby 
>and America Elizabeth Wilson Shelby who ended up in Southwestern Oklahoma.
>Patsy

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Hi Patsy,<br>
&nbsp;Not a lot seems to be known, and have yet to really prove a
connection to the earlier known SHELBYs.<br><br>
Hope this will help..<br>
Judy<br><br>
<b>Andrew Abraham SHELBY</b> was born on June 13, 1868 in Tuscaloosa Co,
AL. 18 miles N of Tusc. Co&nbsp; He died in 1952 in OK.&nbsp; <br>
&nbsp;<br>
SHELBY GENFORUM: Posted by Jolea (Shelby) Kirby &lt;lavjol@pldi.net&gt;
on Mon, 19 Jul 1999 [have lost touch with her]<br>
&nbsp; I am looking for information about my great grandparents.&nbsp;
William A Shelby and Eliza Shelby. Believed to have lived in Tuscaloosa
CO. Ala. in 1860. My grandfather is Andrew Abraham Shelby, born 1865,
married America Elizabeth Wilson in 1892. Some of his brothers were
William J,(1833), John T, (1858),&nbsp; Denis(1860), James E(1866)
married America Elizabeth's mother, Lucinda Wilson June 14,1887.<br>
&nbsp;<br>
 From Johnnie M Johnson- to me via email...<br>
.....the parents of Andrew Abraham Shelby was William A. Shelby b 1835
Plum, Tuscaloosa AL in 1850 fed census and 1870 census there....married
12 Jan 1858&nbsp; in Tuscaloosa to Eliza Alexander.<br>
&nbsp;Wm A is son of John Shelby and Martha Jones; John was born in South
Carolina -Johnnie&nbsp; &lt;peapicker2@aol.com&gt;&nbsp; <br><br>
Not sure who John Shelby's parents were. But he was was born about 1796
in Chester Co?, SC.&nbsp; He died on December 11, 1875 in Kennedale,
Tuscaloosa Co, AL. He served in the military Betw 1812 and 1815 in
SC.&nbsp; <br>
Military Rec - Service Pension, War 1812- Claim #20795- Act of 9 Mar
1878; Cert # 13641, Tusc Co, AL Widow's Brief -filed 9 Mar 1878 this
county. John Shelby served as a Pvt in Capt Wm Welsh's CO, Inf. of SC,
from 24 Sept 1814 to 9 Mar 1815. Admitted 4 Dec 1878, to a pension of $8.
per month, from 9 Mar 1878 Bounty Land Claim- 32017-80-55, issued 10 Apr
1878.<br><br>
Affidavits Statements for Proof of Claim for a Widows Pension for Mrs
Martha SHELBY.&nbsp; State of AL, Tuscaloosa Co 26 Jun 1878 &quot;James
BROWN who being by one duly sworn in oath states that he was b in 1799
the 5 Jany in the state of SC. That he was acquainted with John SHELBY in
his life time. that he made his acquaintance abt the yr 1812 &amp; bef
his marr to Mrs Martha SHELBY, who he also knew bef her marr. He knew Mrs
Martha SHELBY when her name was Martha JONES. He saw the said John SHELBY
&amp; Martha SHELBY liv together as man &amp; wife in the yr
1817&quot;...It was in the yr 1816 or 1817 in the State of SC. He has
known them for 45 yrs in the State of AL... He knew John SHELBY went to
the war in the fall of 1814 &amp; participated in the Battle of New
Orleans, Jan 13 1815.&nbsp; Signed James (X) BROWN.&nbsp; Sworn to &amp;
subscribed bef me this 25th day of Jun 1878, W.H.H. Baker, J.P.
Wit's-James W FROST, George DOWD<br><br>
Also this day....Nancy E FROST, ...states on oath that she is a dau of
John &amp; Martha SHELBY; her father is dead. He died at Kennedale
Tuscaloosa Co; her mother is now living. The age of the witness is 48yrs
(b 1830). She was b in TN (Co not given). She knew all of her brothers
&amp; sisters. Following this statement is a list of her bros &amp; sis'-
as shown on the FGS<br><br>
She states &quot;All of them are dead, except herself &amp; her brother
John M, the oldest child, who went to Brazil after the war &amp; has
never been heard from since [Virginia Lake says this is wrong]. If John M
is living he would be abt 60 yrs of age. &quot;I have lived in Tuscaloosa
Co for over 40 yrs &amp; still live there...I married Jackson G. FROST in
1849 &amp; still liv with him...mother of 5 ch. She &amp; James BROWN
sign with their mark's.
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<dd>John M SHELBY</b> was born in 1818 in SC?.&nbsp;&nbsp; He's age 32
1850 b GA with family. According to John' 
<dd>sister, Nancy E FROST, in their mother's pension appl 1878,(for
father in war of 1812) she states that only 
<dd>she &amp; her bro, John were still living. That he went to Brazil
&amp; was never heard from again. 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>ii.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Abigail
SHELBY</b> was born about 1821 in SC?. She died before 1878 in AL?.&nbsp;
Affidavit, 1878 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>iii.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Mary
Ann SHELBY</b> was born about 1824 in SC?. Affidavit, 1878&nbsp; She died
before 1878 in Tuscaloosa Co?, AL.&nbsp; Affidavit, 1878 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>iv.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Emeranda
SHELBY</b> was born about 1826 in SC or TN.&nbsp; She died before 1878 in
AL?. Affidavit, 1878 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>v.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Martha
Jane SHELBY</b> was born about 1828 in SC or TN. She died before 1878 in
AL?. Affidavit, 1878 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>vi.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Nancy
E SHELBY</b> was born in 1830 in TN.&nbsp; Affidavit, 1878&nbsp; She died
after 1878 in AL?. 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>vii.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>William
A SHELBY.</b> 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>viii.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Elijah
B SHELBY</b> was born about 1836 in Tuscaloosa Co, AL. He died before
1870 in AL?.&nbsp; Affidavit, 1878 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>ix.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>James
R SHELBY</b> was born about 1840 in Tuscaloosa Co, AL. Affidavit,
1878,&nbsp; He died before 1878 in AL?. 
<dd><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>x.<x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><b>Margaret
A SHELBY</b> was born about 1846 in Tuscaloosa Co, AL.&nbsp; Affidavit,
1878&nbsp; She died before 1878 in AL?.<br><br>
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At 11:33 PM 9/2/02 -0600, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>I'm looking for any and all
ancestors connected to Andrew Abraham Shelby and America Elizabeth Wilson
Shelby who ended up in Southwestern Oklahoma.<br>
Patsy</blockquote></html>

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