From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Tue Jan 6 20:10:56 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (earthlink charles howell)
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 12:10:56 -0800
Subject: [shelby research]Latham's and shelby's
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Hello,
My "google search" was for < Chilton latham, Captian British army >
the second result was for, Isaac Shelby with reference to John Latham, =
who settled.....
Can you tell me where this reference is in the body of your work.
My concentration is on the Latham's of new England. From which a Thomas =
migrated to the Virginias. there was also Phenihas in the 1700 in the =
NC's.
Another researcher, on the latham chat is looking for KY latham =
relatives. I did find C. latham in one of the trees.
Thank you for your consideration of this request.
Charles Lewis Howell
Seattle, Washington
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Hello,
My "google search" was for < Chilton latham, =
Captian=20
British army >
the second result was for, Isaac Shelby with =
reference to John=20
Latham, who settled.....
Can you tell me where this reference is in the body =
of your=20
work.
My concentration is on the Latham's of new England. =
>From which=20
a Thomas migrated to the Virginias. there was also Phenihas in the =
1700 in=20
the NC's.
Another researcher, on the latham chat is looking =
for KY=20
latham relatives. I did find C. latham in one of the trees.
Thank you for your consideration of this =
request.
Charles Lewis Howell
Seattle, Washington
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Wed Jan 14 06:03:49 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (Judith A Trolinger)
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:03:49 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Latham's and shelby's
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Hi Charles,
My search was for Isaac Shelby, which in turn brought up John Latham, but
have no connection to him. You'll find him referenced here:
http://www.trolinger.com/david/shelby/shelby.htm -This just has to do with
the history of Shelby Co, TX, which was named for Isaac. It mentions "John
Latham, who settled here in 1818 when the area was still under Spanish rule"
Also, there is this site, regarding "Sapling Grove" the home place of Gov
Isaac Shelby's father, Evan Shelby:
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/squabble/land.html -Interesting information
here..Including the mention of a John Latham.
For those who may not have discovered it yet--Once you are on one of these
web site's, go to FILE and then click on FIND IN THIS PAGE -type in the
name you are looking for...You can do this with any web site, by the way.
There was a Lucretia Latham, married 1874 to E.B. "Elam Barnes" Shelby, in
Stoddard Co, MO. Have no further data on her.
Sorry I can't be of more help with this.
Judy
At 12:10 PM 1/6/04 -0800, you wrote:
>Hello,
>
>My "google search" was for < Chilton latham, Captian British army >
>
>the second result was for, Isaac Shelby with reference to John Latham, who
>settled.....
>
>Can you tell me where this reference is in the body of your work.
>
>My concentration is on the Latham's of new England. From which a Thomas
>migrated to the Virginias. there was also Phenihas in the 1700 in the NC's.
>
>Another researcher, on the latham chat is looking for KY latham relatives.
>I did find C. latham in one of the trees.
>
>
>Thank you for your consideration of this request.
>
>Charles Lewis Howell
>Seattle, Washington
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Hi Charles,
My search was for Isaac Shelby, which in turn brought up John
Latham, but have no connection to him. You'll find him referenced
here:
http://www.trolinger.com/david/shelby/shelby.htm
-This just has to do with the history of Shelby Co, TX, which was named for Isaac. It mentions "John Latham, who settled here in 1818 when the area was still under Spanish rule"
Also, there is this site, regarding "Sapling Grove" the home place of Gov Isaac Shelby's father, Evan Shelby:
http://www.tngenweb.org/tnland/squabble/land.html -Interesting information here..Including the mention of a John Latham.
For those who may not have discovered it yet--Once you are on one of these web site's, go to FILE and then click on FIND IN THIS PAGE -type in the name you are looking for...You can do this with any web site, by the way.
There was a Lucretia Latham, married 1874 to E.B. "Elam Barnes" Shelby, in Stoddard Co, MO. Have no further data on her.
Sorry I can't be of more help with this.
Judy
At 12:10 PM 1/6/04 -0800, you wrote:
Hello,
My "google search" was for < Chilton latham, Captian British army >
the second result was for, Isaac Shelby with reference to John Latham, who settled.....
Can you tell me where this reference is in the body of your work.
My concentration is on the Latham's of new England. From which a Thomas migrated to the Virginias. there was also Phenihas in the 1700 in the NC's.
Another researcher, on the latham chat is looking for KY latham relatives. I did find C. latham in one of the trees.
Thank you for your consideration of this request.
Charles Lewis Howell
Seattle, Washington
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Fri Jan 30 00:45:18 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (Alexandra Hebert-Ross)
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:45:18 -0900
Subject: [shelby research]Jinx Shelby of Arkansas ancestors
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Sat Feb 7 22:27:53 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (Judith A Trolinger)
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 16:27:53 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Jinx Shelby of Arkansas ancestors
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Hi Alexandra,
Can you please provide a bit more info?? Where and when for Jink or his
parents?
Judy
At 03:45 PM 1/29/04 -0900, you wrote:
>My name is Alexandra Hebert-Ross my mother -in-
>law is Jink Shelby's daughter
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Hi Alexandra,
Can you please provide a bit more info?? Where and when for Jink or his
parents?
Judy
At 03:45 PM 1/29/04 -0900, you wrote:
My name
is Alexandra Hebert-Ross my mother -in-
law is Jink Shelby's
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Mon Feb 9 21:56:18 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (shelby@lists.trolinger.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 16:56:18 EST
Subject: [shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron
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Hello Judy,
A little while back there was information placed on this website regarding
the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. I have lost my file. I want to visit
there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have that information?
Thanks,
Martha
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Hello Judy,
A little while back there was information placed on this website regard=
ing the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. I have lost my file.&nbs=
p; I want to visit there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have=
that information?
Thanks,
Martha
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Mon Feb 16 22:39:48 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (Judith A Trolinger)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 16:39:48 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron
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Hi Martha!
Lost files are no fun!
You must mean this one? I know you must be getting excited about your trip!!
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Judith A Trolinger [mailto:hoberta@hilconet.com]
>Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:04 PM
>To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com
>Subject: Re: [shelby research]tregaron
>
>Hi,
>Seems like I stay swamped with other stuff!
>
>Thanks for the great response! A Shelby Center in Tregaron sounds sounds
>like a major undertaking! Just what did you have in mind for this center
>and what would the board be doing?? Best place to post your idea would be
>on the SHELBY GENFORUM
>
>Map..Not on my website..Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinauer III sent
>a letter stating: "While on a trip to London, I located Derlwyn (the
>property owned by Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish, Dyfed, Wales on an
>Ordanance Map..There is a footpath leading from Tregaron across the valley
>of the Afon Teifi over a foot bridge to Derlyn...." on the map it shows
>Derlwyn just NW of Tregaron
>
>This will give you links to Tregaron, but can't say I have the old
>homestead pinpointed. There may not even be any land records to pinpoint it.
>http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm
>
>Then a bit later in the year, I heard from a person, who either didn't
>know what they were talking about, or was pulling my leg! Said they had
>been to the library in Aberystwyth and had looked at the records..but
>found that what I was told didn't match the [Shelby] christening records I
>finally received from another researcher. Anyway this person said the
>Shelby homestead was located precisely at the valley where the two rivers,
>the Croes and the Berwyn meet, within walking distance of Tregaron.
>
>Judy
Also to all subscribers...If you have lost your messages or just want to
check on ones you may have missed-you'll find them in the Shelby Archives
by date.
http://lists.trolinger.com/pipermail/shelby/
Judy
At 04:56 PM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello Judy,
>
>A little while back there was information placed on this website regarding
>the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. I have lost my file. I want to
>visit there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have that information?
>
>Thanks,
>Martha
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Hi Martha!
Lost files are no fun!
You must mean this one? I know you must be getting excited about your
trip!!
-----Original
Message-----
From: Judith A Trolinger
[mailto:hoberta@hilconet.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:04 PM
To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com
Subject: Re: [shelby research]tregaron
- Hi,
- Seems like I stay swamped with other stuff!
- Thanks for the great response! A Shelby Center in Tregaron sounds
sounds like a major undertaking! Just what did you have in mind for this
center and what would the board be doing?? Best place to post your idea
would be on the SHELBY GENFORUM
- Map..Not on my website..Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinauer
III sent a letter stating: "While on a trip to London, I located
Derlwyn (the property owned by Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish,
Dyfed, Wales on an Ordanance Map..There is a footpath leading from
Tregaron across the valley of the Afon Teifi over a foot bridge to
Derlyn...." on the map it shows Derlwyn just NW of
Tregaron
- This will give you links to Tregaron, but can't say I have the old
homestead pinpointed. There may not even be any land records to pinpoint
it.
- http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm
- Then a bit later in the year, I heard from a person, who either
didn't know what they were talking about, or was pulling my leg! Said
they had been to the library in Aberystwyth and had looked at the
records..but found that what I was told didn't match the [Shelby]
christening records I finally received from another researcher. Anyway
this person said the Shelby homestead was located precisely at the valley
where the two rivers, the Croes and the Berwyn meet, within walking
distance of Tregaron.
- Judy
Also to all subscribers...If you have lost your messages or just want to
check on ones you may have missed-you'll find them in the Shelby Archives
by date.
http://lists.trolinger.com/pipermail/shelby/
Judy
At 04:56 PM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Judy,
A little while back there was information placed on this website
regarding the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. I have lost my
file. I want to visit there when I get to Tregaron this year.
Do you have that information?
Thanks,
Martha
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Tue Feb 17 16:20:02 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (george kitzmiller)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:20:02 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron
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on 2/16/04 4:39 PM, Judith A Trolinger at hoberta@hilconet.com wrote:
Hi Martha!
Lost files are no fun!
You must mean this one? I know you must be getting excited about your trip!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Judith A Trolinger [mailto:hoberta@hilconet.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:04 PM
To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com
Subject: Re: [shelby research]tregaron
Hi,
Seems like I stay swamped with other stuff!
Thanks for the great response! A Shelby Center in Tregaron sounds sounds
like a major undertaking! Just what did you have in mind for this center and
what would the board be doing?? Best place to post your idea would be on the
SHELBY GENFORUM
Map..Not on my website..Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinauer III sent a
letter stating: "While on a trip to London, I located Derlwyn (the property
owned by Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish, Dyfed, Wales on an Ordanance
Map..There is a footpath leading from Tregaron across the valley of the Afon
Teifi over a foot bridge to Derlyn...." on the map it shows Derlwyn just NW
of Tregaron
This will give you links to Tregaron, but can't say I have the old homestead
pinpointed. There may not even be any land records to pinpoint it.
http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm
Then a bit later in the year, I heard from a person, who either didn't know
what they were talking about, or was pulling my leg! Said they had been to
the library in Aberystwyth and had looked at the records..but found that
what I was told didn't match the [Shelby] christening records I finally
received from another researcher. Anyway this person said the Shelby
homestead was located precisely at the valley where the two rivers, the
Croes and the Berwyn meet, within walking distance of Tregaron.
Judy
Also to all subscribers...If you have lost your messages or just want to
check on ones you may have missed-you'll find them in the Shelby Archives by
date.
http://lists.trolinger.com/pipermail/shelby/
Judy
At 04:56 PM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Judy,
A little while back there was information placed on this website regarding
the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. I have lost my file. I want to
visit there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have that information?
Thanks,
Martha
Dear Judy,
Although I do not have my materials "out" right now, I was in Tregaron
several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my impression
then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron. The Derlyn one is
now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse that has been torn down.
We drove to this place by passing the footpath and getting to a road that
led up to the farm. The lady who owns the farm with her husband was most
cordial, but didn't know the history of the farm. It is certainly Derlyn and
still carries that name. The other place at the meeting of the two rivers we
could see, but did not have exact enough information to find the place.
Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the river, a beautiful setting and a
prosperous farm. The other place lies in the valley, and there are quite a
few houses in the area now. The man who owns Derlyn might be a good source
of information about the farm if he was home -- I understood it had been in
his family for some length of time. Nobody that we talked to had any
recollection of the Shelbys. There is a bed and breadfast right near the
turn off road that leads up to Derlyn -- Just past the bridge (which is old,
but was nevertheless built after our family left Wales.) It turned out to be
quite busy even in Tregaron in the summer time and also the fall. The area
is remote and old fashioned. We heard quite a lot of Welsh spoken, and that
was interesting.
Kay Kitzmiller
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Re: [shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron
on 2/16/04 4:39 PM, Judith A Trolinger at hoberta@hilconet.com wrote:
Hi Martha!
Lost files are no fun!
You must mean this one? I know you must be getting excited about your trip!=
!
-----Original Message-----
From: Judith A Trolinger [mailto:hoberta@hilconet.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:04 PM
To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com
Subject: Re: [shelby research]tregaron
Hi,
Seems like I stay swamped with other stuff!
Thanks for the great response! A Shelby Center in Tregaron sounds sounds li=
ke a major undertaking! Just what did you have in mind for this center and w=
hat would the board be doing?? Best place to post your idea would be on the =
SHELBY GENFORUM
Map..Not on my website..Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinau=
er III sent a letter stating: "While on a trip to London, I located Der=
lwyn (the property owned by Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish, Dyfed, Wale=
s on an Ordanance Map..There is a footpath leading from Tregaron across the =
valley of the Afon Teifi over a foot bridge to Derlyn...." on the map i=
t shows Derlwyn just NW of Tregaron
This will give you links to Tregaron, but can't say I have the old homestea=
d pinpointed. There may not even be any land records to pinpoint it.
http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm
Then a bit later in the year, I heard from a person, who either didn't know=
what they were talking about, or was pulling my leg! Said they had been to =
the library in Aberystwyth and had looked at the records..but found that wha=
t I was told didn't match the [Shelby] christening records I finally receive=
d from another researcher. Anyway this person said the Shelby homestead was =
located precisely at the valley where the two rivers, the Croes and the Berw=
yn meet, within walking distance of Tregaron.
Judy
Also to all subscribers...If you have lost your messages or just want to ch=
eck on ones you may have missed-you'll find them in the Shelby Archives by d=
ate.
http://lists.trolinger.com/pipermail/shelby/
Judy
At 04:56 PM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Judy,
A little while back there was information placed on this website regarding =
the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. I have lost my file. I=
want to visit there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have that info=
rmation?
Thanks,
Martha
Dear Judy,
Although I do not have my materials "out" right now, I was in Tre=
garon several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my impr=
ession then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron. The Derlyn o=
ne is now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse that has been torn=
down. We drove to this place by passing the footpath and getting to a road =
that led up to the farm. The lady who owns the farm with her husband was mos=
t cordial, but didn't know the history of the farm. It is certainly Derlyn a=
nd still carries that name. The other place at the meeting of the two rivers=
we could see, but did not have exact enough information to find the place. =
Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the river, a beautiful setting and a =
prosperous farm. The other place lies in the valley, and there are quite a f=
ew houses in the area now. The man who owns Derlyn might be a good source of=
information about the farm if he was home -- I understood it had been in hi=
s family for some length of time. Nobody that we talked to had any recollect=
ion of the Shelbys. There is a bed and breadfast right near the turn o=
ff road that leads up to Derlyn -- Just past the bridge (which is old, but w=
as nevertheless built after our family left Wales.) It turned out to be quit=
e busy even in Tregaron in the summer time and also the fall. The area is &n=
bsp;remote and old fashioned. We heard quite a lot of Welsh spoken, and that=
was interesting.
Kay Kitzmiller
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Wed Feb 18 17:04:22 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (June Barker)
Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:04:22 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Evan Shelby b. 1690
Message-ID: <410-22004231817422890@earthlink.net>
Information in regard to:
EVAN SHELBY, b. 1690, Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales
Some researchers show:
d. Bef. July 18, 1751, Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales.
Other researchers show:
d. Bef. 18 Jul 1751 in Frederick Co, MD.
Which is correct and how was it determined?
Thanks,
June Barker
djune@earthlink.net
From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Thu Feb 19 16:50:39 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (Judith A Trolinger)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 10:50:39 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Evan Shelby b. 1690
In-Reply-To: <410-22004231817422890@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.0.20040219095157.009f4db0@mail.hilconet.com>
Hi June..
Thanks for sharing your question! That is what this list is intended for.
One of the disconcerting thing I'm finding, that while I certainly don't
object to people using my data-or I wouldn't be sharing :-)) -I most
certainly recognize my own research- despite how it is worded- They could
at least use it correctly.
I'm in the process of updating my Shelby home page, and adding more
data..Will keep you all posted.
So as a caution to all, be aware that any of the databases like World
Family tree [ancestry.com, Gencircles.com, Ancestral file {LDS church],
etc, etc, while good starting points..contain a lot of outdated Shelby
info. Also my info is beginning to show up in these databases, with no
credit given and/or quoted wrong.
So anytime you come across Shelby data you are in doubt about..Post your
question here-in hopes of stopping the errors before they get spread
around..I don't of course have all the answers...but someone may have....
Judy
June, whoever came up with the notion that Evan died in Wales?
A PS while I'm at it...Many of the anti-spam software programs target the
mail-lists-ours is being included now...as some of the messages are
bouncing back to me, as being disabled.
SO, if you find your favorite mail lists have suddenly stopped
appearing-check how you are filtering your email's...
Judy
==========
Evan Shelby Sr died at his home, "Maidens Choice". He died Intestate, as
sworn by his widow Catherine, and son Evan Shelby, as Administrators of his
estate, on 18 Jul 1751.
Inventories (1751-2) No. 48 T.A.S., page 332, at the Land Commissioner's office
The Inventory of Evan's estate was not very large and didn't appear to be
worth a whole lot, but shows he had several slaves. Sons, Moses & John,
signed as the nearest kin & recorded 6 Aug 1751. James Davies and Isaac
Baker signed as witnesses. The sale took place on 6 Sept 1751, to be held
at the dwelling house of Evan Shelby lately deceased...
From a few later notations, the sale did not cover all of Evan's debts, as
by 1754 Catherine and son Evan were still being sued for his debts.
It is unknown if Catherine remained on the home place and died there- Or if
she went to live with one of her children.
================
I stumbled across these 'goodies' back in the '80s, while browsing the
bookshelves in the library at Bowdain Collage in Brunswick, Maine...They
had a couple of books that had been published on the records of The Ohio
Company-interesting reading..history on this company is most likely
available on the internet now -I haven't looked-
Appendix D, p325 [book page]-19 Mar 1754-Frederick Co, MD: Docket:
George Mason & The Ohio Company, sue Catherine & Evan Shelby [Jr], Adm's
of Evan Shelby on a debt of 4 lbs 15 shillings- Item dated 3 Jul 1750..
p102 [book page]-Court Dockets show that Catherine & her son Evan Jr, were
still trying to settle Evan Sr's Estate as late as 19 Mar 1754 in Frederick
Co. "against Catherine and Evan Shelby for an old debt of the late Evan
Shelby for L14..5 due since July 3, 1750" This is the last record I have
found-to date- that mentions Catherine.
Judy
At 11:04 AM 2/18/04 -0600, you wrote:
>Information in regard to:
>EVAN SHELBY, b. 1690, Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales
>
>Some researchers show:
>d. Bef. July 18, 1751, Tregaron, Cardiganshire, Wales.
>
>Other researchers show:
>d. Bef. 18 Jul 1751 in Frederick Co, MD.
>
>Which is correct and how was it determined?
>
>Thanks,
>June Barker
>djune@earthlink.net
>
>
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From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Sun Feb 29 19:56:58 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (Judith A Trolinger)
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:56:58 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron
In-Reply-To:
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Hi Kaye,
Thanks so much for the added info! I know Martha has got to be excited
about her trip to Tregaron
Judy
>Dear Judy,
>Although I do not have my materials "out" right now, I was in Tregaron
>several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my
>impression then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron. The
>Derlyn one is now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse that has
>been torn down. We drove to this place by passing the footpath and getting
>to a road that led up to the farm. The lady who owns the farm with her
>husband was most cordial, but didn't know the history of the farm. It is
>certainly Derlyn and still carries that name. The other place at the
>meeting of the two rivers we could see, but did not have exact enough
>information to find the place. Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the
>river, a beautiful setting and a prosperous farm. The other place lies in
>the valley, and there are quite a few houses in the area now. The man who
>owns Derlyn might be a good source of information about the farm if he was
>home -- I understood it had been in his family for some length of time.
>Nobody that we talked to had any recollection of the Shelbys. There is a
>bed and breadfast right near the turn off road that leads up to Derlyn --
>Just past the bridge (which is old, but was nevertheless built after our
>family left Wales.) It turned out to be quite busy even in Tregaron in the
>summer time and also the fall. The area is remote and old fashioned. We
>heard quite a lot of Welsh spoken, and that was interesting.
>
>Kay Kitzmiller
From shelby@lists.trolinger.com Sun Feb 29 19:57:52 2004
From: shelby@lists.trolinger.com (george kitzmiller)
Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 13:57:52 -0600
Subject: [shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron
In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.9.0.20040229135514.00a1f540@mail.hilconet.com>
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on 2/29/04 1:56 PM, Judith A Trolinger at hoberta@hilconet.com wrote:
> Hi Kaye,
> Thanks so much for the added info! I know Martha has got to be excited
> about her trip to Tregaron
>
> Judy
>
>> Dear Judy,
>> Although I do not have my materials "out" right now, I was in Tregaron
>> several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my
>> impression then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron. The
>> Derlyn one is now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse that has
>> been torn down. We drove to this place by passing the footpath and getting
>> to a road that led up to the farm. The lady who owns the farm with her
>> husband was most cordial, but didn't know the history of the farm. It is
>> certainly Derlyn and still carries that name. The other place at the
>> meeting of the two rivers we could see, but did not have exact enough
>> information to find the place. Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the
>> river, a beautiful setting and a prosperous farm. The other place lies in
>> the valley, and there are quite a few houses in the area now. The man who
>> owns Derlyn might be a good source of information about the farm if he was
>> home -- I understood it had been in his family for some length of time.
>> Nobody that we talked to had any recollection of the Shelbys. There is a
>> bed and breadfast right near the turn off road that leads up to Derlyn --
>> Just past the bridge (which is old, but was nevertheless built after our
>> family left Wales.) It turned out to be quite busy even in Tregaron in the
>> summer time and also the fall. The area is remote and old fashioned. We
>> heard quite a lot of Welsh spoken, and that was interesting.
>>
>> Kay Kitzmiller
>
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Dear Judy,
It really was wonderful to be there, and I know she will love it.
Kay