[shelby research]Selby's of Tregaron

Tue, 17 Feb 2004 10:20:02 -0600

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on 2/16/04 4:39 PM, Judith A Trolinger at hoberta@hilconet.com wrote:

Hi Martha!
Lost files are no fun!

You must mean this one? I know you must be getting excited about your trip!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Judith A Trolinger [mailto:hoberta@hilconet.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:04 PM
To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com
Subject: Re: [shelby research]tregaron

Hi,
Seems like I stay swamped with other stuff!

Thanks for the great response! A Shelby Center in Tregaron sounds sounds
like a major undertaking! Just what did you have in mind for this center and
what would the board be doing?? Best place to post your idea would be on the
SHELBY GENFORUM

Map..Not on my website..Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinauer III sent a
letter stating: "While on a trip to London, I located Derlwyn (the property
owned by Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish, Dyfed, Wales on an Ordanance
Map..There is a footpath leading from Tregaron across the valley of the Afon
Teifi over a foot bridge to Derlyn...." on the map it shows Derlwyn just NW
of Tregaron

This will give you links to Tregaron, but can't say I have the old homestead
pinpointed. There may not even be any land records to pinpoint it.
http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm

Then a bit later in the year, I heard from a person, who either didn't know
what they were talking about, or was pulling my leg! Said they had been to
the library in Aberystwyth and had looked at the records..but found that
what I was told didn't match the [Shelby] christening records I finally
received from another researcher. Anyway this person said the Shelby
homestead was located precisely at the valley where the two rivers, the
Croes and the Berwyn meet, within walking distance of Tregaron.

Judy

Also to all subscribers...If you have lost your messages or just want to
check on ones you may have missed-you'll find them in the Shelby Archives by
date.
http://lists.trolinger.com/pipermail/shelby/

Judy

At 04:56 PM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote:
Hello Judy,

A little while back there was information placed on this website regarding
the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron.  I have lost my file.  I want to
visit there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have that information?

Thanks,
Martha

Dear Judy,
Although I do not have my materials "out" right now, I was in Tregaron
several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my impression
then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron. The Derlyn one is
now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse that has been torn down.
We drove to this place by passing the footpath and getting to a road that
led up to the farm. The lady who owns the farm with her husband was most
cordial, but didn't know the history of the farm. It is certainly Derlyn and
still carries that name. The other place at the meeting of the two rivers we
could see, but did not have exact enough information to find the place.
Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the river, a beautiful setting and a
prosperous farm. The other place lies in the valley, and there are quite a
few houses in the area now. The man who owns Derlyn might be a good source
of information about the farm if he was home -- I understood it had been in
his family for some length of time. Nobody that we talked to had any
recollection of the Shelbys.  There is a bed and breadfast right near the
turn off road that leads up to Derlyn -- Just past the bridge (which is old,
but was nevertheless built after our family left Wales.) It turned out to be
quite busy even in Tregaron in the summer time and also the fall. The area
is  remote and old fashioned. We heard quite a lot of Welsh spoken, and that
was interesting.

Kay Kitzmiller 

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on 2/16/04 4:39 PM, Judith A Trolinger at hoberta@hilconet.com wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Martha! 
Lost files are no fun! 
 
You must mean this one? I know you must be getting excited about your trip!=
! 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>-----Original Message----- 
From: Judith A Trolinger [mailto:hoberta@hilconet.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 6:04 PM 
To: shelby@lists.trolinger.com 
Subject: Re: [shelby research]tregaron 
 
Hi, 
Seems like I stay swamped with other stuff! 
 
Thanks for the great response! A Shelby Center in Tregaron sounds sounds li=
ke a major undertaking! Just what did you have in mind for this center and w=
hat would the board be doing?? Best place to post your idea would be on the =
SHELBY GENFORUM 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE>Map..Not on my website..Back in early 1999, B. Franklin Reinau=
er III sent a letter stating: &quot;While on a trip to London, I located Der=
lwyn (the property owned by Phillip S(h)elby in Tregaron Parish, Dyfed, Wale=
s on an Ordanance Map..There is a footpath leading from Tregaron across the =
valley of the Afon Teifi over a foot bridge to Derlyn....&quot; on the map i=
t shows Derlwyn just NW of Tregaron 
 
This will give you links to Tregaron, but can't say I have the old homestea=
d pinpointed. There may not even be any land records to pinpoint it. 
http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm 
 
Then a bit later in the year, I heard from a person, who either didn't know=
 what they were talking about, or was pulling my leg! Said they had been to =
the library in Aberystwyth and had looked at the records..but found that wha=
t I was told didn't match the [Shelby] christening records I finally receive=
d from another researcher. Anyway this person said the Shelby homestead was =
located precisely at the valley where the two rivers, the Croes and the Berw=
yn meet, within walking distance of Tregaron. 
 
Judy 
 
 
Also to all subscribers...If you have lost your messages or just want to ch=
eck on ones you may have missed-you'll find them in the Shelby Archives by d=
ate. 
http://lists.trolinger.com/pipermail/shelby/ 
 
Judy 
 
At 04:56 PM 2/9/04 -0500, you wrote: 
<BLOCKQUOTE>Hello Judy, 
 
A little while back there was information placed on this website regarding =
the landsite of Philip Selby in Tregaron. &nbsp;I have lost my file. &nbsp;I=
 want to visit there when I get to Tregaron this year. Do you have that info=
rmation? 
 
Thanks, 
Martha 
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Dear Judy, 
Although I do not have my materials &quot;out&quot; right now, I was in Tre=
garon several years ago. I visited both the sites you mentioned, and my impr=
ession then was that there were two Shelby farms near Tregaron. The Derlyn o=
ne is now a modern farm, and there was an older farmhouse that has been torn=
 down. We drove to this place by passing the footpath and getting to a road =
that led up to the farm. The lady who owns the farm with her husband was mos=
t cordial, but didn't know the history of the farm. It is certainly Derlyn a=
nd still carries that name. The other place at the meeting of the two rivers=
 we could see, but did not have exact enough information to find the place. =
Derlyn is up on a hill looking down on the river, a beautiful setting and a =
prosperous farm. The other place lies in the valley, and there are quite a f=
ew houses in the area now. The man who owns Derlyn might be a good source of=
 information about the farm if he was home -- I understood it had been in hi=
s family for some length of time. Nobody that we talked to had any recollect=
ion of the Shelbys. &nbsp;There is a bed and breadfast right near the turn o=
ff road that leads up to Derlyn -- Just past the bridge (which is old, but w=
as nevertheless built after our family left Wales.) It turned out to be quit=
e busy even in Tregaron in the summer time and also the fall. The area is &n=
bsp;remote and old fashioned. We heard quite a lot of Welsh spoken, and that=
 was interesting. 
 
Kay Kitzmiller
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