From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Thu Aug 5 21:34:16 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (TOM PECK) Date: Thu, 05 Aug 2004 21:34:16 +0100 Subject: [WED]Millards, Onondaga NY, 1873 Onwards + Wedmore, Somerset Message-ID:
Hi All,
Just a quick note to say thanks for some very fast replies to my first posting.
 
For Mel Lader, the only Davis connection found so far was that Albert MILLARD married Mary Ann DAVIS in June 1866. Mary Ann's mother was Maria MORRIS, believed to have married Isaac Davis, a thatcher by trade. They had two other children, Sarah and Giles. Sarah almost certainly went on to marry George THAYER, who became the "uncle" referred to in my first posting. So Mel, if this ties in with anything in your line we need to have a chat.
 
Regards,
Tom Peck.
From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sun Aug 8 19:36:39 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Melvin Lader) Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:36:39 -0400 Subject: [WED]Abel Millard Message-ID: <20040808183902.VSDI8791.lakermmtao06.cox.net@[192.168.1.201]> I found the following pasted inside the back cover of my grandfather's Bible. Abel Millard and his wife Mary were residents of Spafford, Onondaga Co., NY, where my ancestors also lived. The Millards in the area were mostly from Wedmore, and I suspect Abel was from there as well. Somewhere in my records, I also have Abel and Mary's immigration date if anyone should need it. Just let me know. In affectionate Remembrance of ABEL MILLARD who died October 20, 1885, aged 40 years. Dear Abel is gone; bow sad and lonely, Though on angel's wings he fled, And evening's zephyrs sighing, Sadly whisper, Abel is dead. The messenger came unexpected, And took him so quickly away, Making my home so lonely; It seems I no longer can stay. Take comfort, stricken Mary For your dear husband weep no more Though in the tomb we have laid him; Yet Christ laid there before. Mel Lader Alexandria, VA From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Wed Aug 18 14:10:21 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Liz=20Jones?=) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:10:21 +0100 (BST) Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Message-ID: <20040818131021.62274.qmail@web86002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-635963654-1092834621=:61448 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi everyone! I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday looking at the records of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly Society". The names listed are all female and detail the loan of a bag, numbered 1, 2 or 3, which was loaned to the named woman for on average about a month, and then returned. Dates of loan and return are listed, as is the condition the bag was returned in - clean, not clean, etc. There is also a record of monies paid, usually around 2s.The catalogue entry says it is "also used as account book of a maternity club with articles lent for lying-in" - presumably this is the bag referred to. Does anyone know what the bag would have contained? Many thanks Liz www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman in Devon) --0-635963654-1092834621=:61448 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi everyone!
 
I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday looking at the records of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly Society". The names listed are all female and detail the loan of a bag, numbered 1, 2 or 3, which was loaned to the named woman for on average about a month, and then returned. Dates of loan and return are listed, as is the condition the bag was returned in - clean, not clean, etc. There is also a record of monies paid, usually around 2s.The catalogue entry says it is "also used as account book of a maternity club with articles lent for lying-in" - presumably this is the bag referred to. Does anyone know what the bag would have contained? 
 
Many thanks
Liz


www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman in Devon)
--0-635963654-1092834621=:61448-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Wed Aug 18 14:28:40 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Stephen and Susan Baines) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 14:28:40 +0100 Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? References: <20040818131021.62274.qmail@web86002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000f01c48527$48740bc0$ffd96751@r235000042> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C4852F.A85ADA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you read Flora Thompson's "Lark Rise to Candleford", it tells you = all about the maternity bag. It contained basic things needed following = the birth of a baby. It would be on loan for a given time, by which = time things could be procured for the baby (which would have grown out = of the smallest things anyway) When so many babies didn't make is past a few weeks, and people were so = hard up, it meant that precious resources weren't used for what could = turn out to be a futile purpose. Susan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Liz Jones=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Hi everyone! I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday looking at the records = of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly Society". The names = listed are all female and detail the loan of a bag, numbered 1, 2 or 3, = which was loaned to the named woman for on average about a month, and = then returned. Dates of loan and return are listed, as is the condition = the bag was returned in - clean, not clean, etc. There is also a record = of monies paid, usually around 2s.The catalogue entry says it is "also = used as account book of a maternity club with articles lent for = lying-in" - presumably this is the bag referred to. Does anyone know = what the bag would have contained?=20 Many thanks Liz www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, = Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman = in Devon) ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C4852F.A85ADA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you read Flora Thompson's =  "Lark Rise to=20 Candleford", it tells you all about the maternity bag.  It = contained basic=20 things needed following the birth of a baby.  It would be on loan = for a=20 given time, by which time things could be procured for the baby (which = would=20 have grown out of the smallest things anyway)
 
When so many babies didn't make is past = a few=20 weeks, and people were so hard up, it meant that precious resources = weren't used=20 for what could turn out to be a futile purpose.
 
Susan
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Liz Jones
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org =
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, = 2004 2:10=20 PM
Subject: [WED]Maternity = bag?

Hi everyone!
 
I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday = looking at=20 the records of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly=20 Society". The names listed are all female and detail the loan = of a=20 bag, numbered 1, 2 or 3, which was loaned to the named woman for on = average=20 about a month, and then returned. Dates of loan and return are listed, = as is=20 the condition the bag was returned in - clean, not clean, etc. There = is also a=20 record of monies paid, usually around 2s.The catalogue entry says it = is "also used as account book of a maternity club with articles = lent for=20 lying-in" - presumably this is the bag referred to. Does anyone know = what the=20 bag would have contained? 
 
Many=20 thanks
Liz


www.lizweb.net - = Researching Fisher=20 in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are = villages in Somerset) and Willsman in = Devon)
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C4852F.A85ADA20-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Wed Aug 18 16:40:00 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?Liz=20Jones?=) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:40:00 +0100 (BST) Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? In-Reply-To: <000f01c48527$48740bc0$ffd96751@r235000042> Message-ID: <20040818154000.86409.qmail@web86003.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> --0-1762529830-1092843600=:85913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Many thanks for this, will get hold of the book and find out more! Cheers Liz Stephen and Susan Baines wrote: If you read Flora Thompson's "Lark Rise to Candleford", it tells you all about the maternity bag. It contained basic things needed following the birth of a baby. It would be on loan for a given time, by which time things could be procured for the baby (which would have grown out of the smallest things anyway) When so many babies didn't make is past a few weeks, and people were so hard up, it meant that precious resources weren't used for what could turn out to be a futile purpose. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: Liz Jones To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Hi everyone! I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday looking at the records of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly Society". The names listed are all female and detail the loan of a bag, numbered 1, 2 or 3, which was loaned to the named woman for on average about a month, and then returned. Dates of loan and return are listed, as is the condition the bag was returned in - clean, not clean, etc. There is also a record of monies paid, usually around 2s.The catalogue entry says it is "also used as account book of a maternity club with articles lent for lying-in" - presumably this is the bag referred to. Does anyone know what the bag would have contained? Many thanks Liz www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman in Devon) www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman in Devon) --0-1762529830-1092843600=:85913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Many thanks for this, will get hold of the book and find out more!
Cheers
Liz

Stephen and Susan Baines <suesteph.baines@virgin.net> wrote:
If you read Flora Thompson's  "Lark Rise to Candleford", it tells you all about the maternity bag.  It contained basic things needed following the birth of a baby.  It would be on loan for a given time, by which time things could be procured for the baby (which would have grown out of the smallest things anyway)
 
When so many babies didn't make is past a few weeks, and people were so hard up, it meant that precious resources weren't used for what could turn out to be a futile purpose.
 
Susan
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Liz Jones
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:10 PM
Subject: [WED]Maternity bag?

Hi everyone!
 
I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday looking at the records of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly Society". The names listed are all female and detail the loan of a bag, numbered 1, 2 or 3, which was loaned to the named woman for on average about a month, and then returned. Dates of loan and return are listed, as is the condition the bag was returned in - clean, not clean, etc. There is also a record of monies paid, usually around 2s.The catalogue entry says it is "also used as account book of a maternity club with articles lent for lying-in" - presumably this is the bag referred to. Does anyone know what the bag would have contained? 
 
Many thanks
Liz


www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman in Devon)


www.lizweb.net - Researching Fisher in Wedmore, Denman in North Curry, Thomas in Minehead/Dunster (all are villages in Somerset) and Willsman in Devon)
--0-1762529830-1092843600=:85913-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Wed Aug 18 21:25:02 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Howard Fear) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 21:25:02 +0100 Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? References: <20040818131021.62274.qmail@web86002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000f01c48527$48740bc0$ffd96751@r235000042> Message-ID: <000001c4856b$d07f3910$33ceae51@Cybercom> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C48569.D277BFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I belive "The friendly society" reffers to the Quaker movement. H Fear = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcut=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D From: Liz Jones=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Hi everyone! I was at the Somerset Record Office yesterday looking at the records = of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly Society". The names = listed are all female and detail the loan of a bag,=20 = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcut=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D) ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C48569.D277BFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I belive "The friendly society" reffers = to the=20 Quaker movement.
 
H Fear
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcut=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D
From: Liz Jones
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org =
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, = 2004 2:10=20 PM
Subject: [WED]Maternity = bag?

Hi everyone!
 
I was at the Somerset Record Office = yesterday looking=20 at the records of what is catalogued as the records of a "?Friendly=20 Society". The names listed are all female and detail the loan = of a=20 bag,
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dcut=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D)
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C48569.D277BFA0-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Wed Aug 18 23:35:22 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Mary Jackes) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:35:22 -0600 Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? References: <20040818131021.62274.qmail@web86002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000f01c48527$48740bc0$ffd96751@r235000042> <000001c4856b$d07f3910$33ceae51@Cybercom> Message-ID: <001b01c48573$a64b6a30$6401a8c0@Toshiba> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C48541.5B9582F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not the Quakers, I suspect. There's something Anglican called The Girls = Friendly Society, but that wasn't formed until the 1870s. However, = there are still more general Friendly Societies in the UK and Australia = and so on - self-help organizations going back to the 1830s or some = such. I belive "The friendly society" reffers to the Quaker movement. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C48541.5B9582F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not the Quakers, I suspect.  = There's something=20 Anglican called The Girls Friendly Society, but that wasn't formed until = the=20 1870s.  However,  there are still more = general Friendly=20 Societies in the UK and Australia and so on - self-help organizations = going back=20 to the 1830s or some such.
 
I belive "The friendly society" = reffers to the=20 Quaker movement.
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C48541.5B9582F0-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Thu Aug 19 08:31:47 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:31:47 EDT Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Message-ID: <8a.1295aa7c.2e55b163@aol.com> In a message dated 18/08/2004 22:40:26 GMT Daylight Time, fearhoward@fearhoward.plus.com writes: I believe "The friendly society" refers to the Quaker movement. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the Quakers are known as 'The Society of Friends'. Friendly societies are mutual organisations providing a wide range of savings, assurance, insurance and healthcare products, see http://www.afs.org.uk/ Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Thu Aug 19 08:33:41 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 03:33:41 EDT Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Message-ID: <15c.3c4960d1.2e55b1d5@aol.com> -------------------------------1092900821 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Friendly societies are mutual aid organisations designed to help people protect themselves against hardship. The idea of friendly societies goes back at least as far as the seventeenth century. They were seen as a solution to the problems people and their families knew they would face should they fall ill or die leaving their children or spouse with limited resources. The friendly societies movement grew as new towns and industries developed in the nineteenth century and people found it difficult to rely on village communities. State provision for the poor included the threat of the workhouse. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.org -------------------------------1092900821 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Friendly societies are mutual aid organisations de= signed=20 to help people protect themselves against hardship. The idea of friendly=20 societies goes back at least as far as the seventeenth century. They were se= en=20 as a solution to the problems people and their families knew they would face= =20 should they fall ill or die leaving their children or spouse with limited=20 resources. The friendly societies movement grew as new towns and industries=20 developed in the nineteenth century and people found it difficult to rely on= =20 village communities. State provision for the poor included the threat of the= =20 workhouse.
 
Regards Stan=20 Mapstone
www.mapstone.org
 -------------------------------1092900821-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Thu Aug 19 14:37:45 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 09:37:45 EDT Subject: [WED]Maternity bag? Message-ID: <68.430e9e91.2e560729@aol.com> -------------------------------1092922665 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "The Religious Society of Friends," was a group that was commonly referred to as Quakers here in New York State. -------------------------------1092922665 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "The Religious Society of Friends," was a group that was commonly referre= d to as Quakers here in New York State.    -------------------------------1092922665-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sat Aug 21 18:26:58 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Stan Castle) Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 18:26:58 +0100 Subject: [WED]A friend or colleague thought this may be of interest to you. Message-ID: <121700424.1093109179447.JavaMail.root@websrvr> http://www.1837online.com Have you all seen this site?