[frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #161 - 1 msg

Albert, Francis X CIV SEA 01 frers-list@lists.frers33.com
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Hey Frank,
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I purchased SEACORD in 2002 and had it trucked to the Chesapeake Bay =
area.   I had my mast step rebuilt last year but my damage was minimal =
and what I had noticed was the cabin floor compressing and developing =
cracks in the sidewall near the floor as that transverse stringer =
started to sag about a 16th of an inch.  They removed some damp wood and =
replaced that with vacuum bagged fiberglass stuff.  The reglassed the =
entire area and I have noticed no new problems in all of last year.
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Frank Albert =20
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Robert,
I have one of the two Frers 33's that are currently sailing in the =
Chicago area. Regards to your questions,=20
1. The main problem seems to be with the area under the mast step. There =
is wood in there which runs from an area just forward of the aft end of =
the v berth to the transverse stringer just aft of the main bulkhead. If =
water has gotten into that area (and at this age of boats you can assume =
there is at least some intrusion on all of the boats) the area becomes =
spongy and the mast can pump, or the boat will flex along the transverse =
stringer. Look for a boat that has already had this work done. For more =
information you can contact Crowleys Yacht Yard as they did the work on =
my boat (Pepperke 2.0) and another boat that has since shipped out to =
Salt Lake City (Impetuous)=20
2. No electrical problems, at least as far as my boat
3. I have a tiller boat and I would guess that all you'd have to do =
would be to remove the quadrant hardware and attach a rudder cap to the =
top of the rudder post. I would assume that its the emergency rudder on =
the wheel boats and might be the same as the tiller boats. Schaeffer =
made the rudder cap on our boat.=20
4. The keel hull design is a bit strange and if a signidicant amount of =
water has gotten into the area of the mast step, it can migrate into the =
keel root. The boat has a keel root which extends some 8 to 12 inches =
below the hull. The keel bolts extend down this far and attache the keel =
to the root. Then the keel is encased in a fiberglass sock and the shape =
is faired into the sock. In fact the eliptical trailing edge on the keel =
is hollow in some areas.  If the keel root has been degraded due to the =
water intrusion, them the root has to be rebuilt from the inside as well =
as the outside. This was done to my boat and Crowleys can fill you in on =
the details.=20
If you have any other questions you can contact me directly at =
fwitt1@comcast.net. I can also put you in touch with the other Chicago =
owner who sails Mystified. There may be another boat in Waukegan, =
although I don't know the name, there was another in Hammond named =
Seacord, and yet another in Michigan City named The Fearless Frog, but =
these boats are all inactive from what we can see.  It would be nice to =
get another Frers into competition in Chicago.=20
=20
Frank Wittosch
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span class=3DEmailStyle19><font size=3D2 =
color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>He=
y Frank,<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I
purchased SEACORD in 2002 and had it trucked to the Chesapeake Bay =
area.<span
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>I had my mast step =
rebuilt last
year but my damage was minimal and what I had noticed was the cabin =
floor
compressing and developing cracks in the sidewall near the floor as that =
transverse
stringer started to sag about a 16th of an inch.<span =
style=3D"mso-spacerun:
yes">&nbsp; </span>They removed some damp wood and replaced that with =
vacuum bagged
fiberglass stuff.<span style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </span>The =
reglassed
the entire area and I have noticed no new problems in all of last =
year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></span></p>

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ank
Albert <span style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
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<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [frers-list]Re:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I have one of the two Frers 33's =
that are
currently sailing in the Chicago area. Regards to your questions, =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>1. The main problem seems to be =
with the
area under the mast step. There is wood in there which runs from an area =
just
forward of the aft end of the v berth to the transverse stringer just =
aft of
the main bulkhead. If water has gotten into that area (and at this age =
of boats
you can assume there is at least some intrusion on all of the boats) the =
area
becomes spongy and the mast can pump, or the boat will flex along the
transverse stringer. Look for a boat that has already had this work =
done. For
more information you can contact Crowleys Yacht Yard as they did the =
work on my
boat (Pepperke 2.0) and another boat that has since&nbsp;shipped out to =
Salt
Lake City (Impetuous)&nbsp;</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>2. No electrical problems, at =
least as far
as my boat</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>3. I have a tiller boat and I =
would guess
that all you'd have to do would be to remove the quadrant hardware and =
attach a
rudder cap to the top of the rudder post. I would assume that its the =
emergency
rudder on the wheel boats and might be the same as the tiller boats. =
Schaeffer
made the rudder cap on our boat. </span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>4. The keel hull design is a bit =
strange
and if a signidicant amount of water has gotten into the area of the =
mast step,
it can migrate into the keel root. The boat has a keel root which =
extends some
8 to 12 inches below the hull. The keel bolts extend down this far and =
attache
the keel to the root. Then the keel is encased in a fiberglass sock and =
the
shape is faired into the sock. In fact the eliptical trailing edge on =
the keel
is hollow in some areas.&nbsp; If the keel root has been degraded due to =
the
water intrusion, them the root has to be rebuilt from the inside as well =
as the
outside. This was done to my boat and Crowleys can fill you in on the =
details. </span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>If you have any other questions =
you can
contact me directly at <a =
href=3D"mailto:fwitt1@comcast.net">fwitt1@comcast.net</a>.
I can also put you in touch with the other Chicago owner who sails =
Mystified.
There may be another boat in Waukegan, although I don't know the name, =
there
was another in Hammond named Seacord, and yet another in Michigan City =
named
The Fearless Frog, but these boats are all inactive from what we can =
see.&nbsp;
It would be nice to get another Frers into competition in Chicago. =
</span></font><font
color=3Dblack><span =
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font><=
/p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font><font =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
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&gt; Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 06: 02:02 -0600 <br>
&gt; From: &quot;Stephen, Robert&quot; <RSTEPHEN@WEBERSTEPHEN.COM><br>
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&gt; I am currently interested in purchasing a frers 33. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =3D20 <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 1) Can anyone update me as to where any specific coring issues in =
<br>
&gt; hull or the deck area that might be consistent with most of these =
boats? <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 2) If I wanted to change out the wheel steering to a tiller is <br>
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&gt; 3) Any questionable electrical to look for? <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; 4) Any concern on the design as it relates to the keel to hull <br>
&gt; design or attachment. Separate from a bad grounding. <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =3D20 <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; =3D20 <br>
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&gt; =3D20 <br>
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