[frers-list]Main sail area and rudder slop
Arthur Kelley
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Fri, 27 Feb 2009 12:13:14 -0500
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I can't tell from the diagram posted on the web site what information is sp=
ecified on the sail plan. Class rules unfortunately refer to "original spec=
" for everything rather than explicitly stating.
I am rated with the following I=3D45, J=3D13.33, P=3D39.12, E=3D15.12
Double check the E or foot length for a typo.
The class does not specify a sail area so you are free to experiment with r=
oach. But you are limited by the requirement for a fixed backstay as origin=
ally designed. Like Dick, my 3DL Main is a pain to tack in light winds so d=
on't go too far with roach. I'll try to look up more specs tonight.
Dropping the rudder isn't too much trouble as long as the bolts at the head=
and radial aren't frozen. I had to drill things out, but you may be more f=
ortunate. Now I can drop it inside of about 15 mins!
Good luck,
Art
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From: Richard Saunders <rhsaund@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 11:07 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Main sail area and rudder slop
Hi Carl,=20
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My racing main is 321 sq.ft. with 1 full length top batten.=A0 My dacron cr=
uising main is 305 sq.ft. with 2=A0full length top battens.=A0 The roach on=
both hit the backstay and often annoyingly hang up in light=A0wind conditi=
ons. =A0 I have had no experience with the replacing rudder bearings, yet.=
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Dick Saunders
Out of Reach,=A0 Hull #18
From: Carl Gish <carlgish@yahoo.com>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 10:25:31 AM
Subject: [frers-list]Main sail area and rudder slop
Two questions for the esteemed Frers fleet
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1) I'm getting a new main made and I'm wondering what the most appropriate =
cut us. I've got one qoute for a 290 sqft sail that has minimal roach etc a=
nd another for a 320 Sq ft sail. I saw no main sail area requirement in the=
Is there a class requirement in the class association rules and regulation=
s. What size sail do most boats carry? the measurements I am using are=A0 =
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I: 45.00
J: 13.48
P: 39.10
E: 13.10
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2) Rudder slop - I've got a fair amoint and I've checked out the extensive =
reading provided by a couple people on changing rudder bearings on the site=
but before I take on what seems like a pretty daunting task I was wonderin=
g (hoping is perhaps a better expression) if there was a relatively lightwe=
ight way to check the beadring/drop the rudder?=20
=A0
Thanks in advance for any quidance/advice
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Regards
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Carl
Pressure Drop=20
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I can't tell from the diagram posted on the web site what information is sp=
ecified on the sail plan. Class rules unfortunately refer to "original spec=
" for everything rather than explicitly stating.<br><br>I am rated with the=
following I=3D45, J=3D13.33, P=3D39.12, E=3D15.12<br><br>Double check the =
E or foot length for a typo.<br><br>The class does not specify a sail area =
so you are free to experiment with roach. But you are limited by the requir=
ement for a fixed backstay as originally designed. Like Dick, my 3DL Main i=
s a pain to tack in light winds so don't go too far with roach. I'll try to=
look up more specs tonight.<br><br>Dropping the rudder isn't too much trou=
ble as long as the bolts at the head and radial aren't frozen. I had to dri=
ll things out, but you may be more fortunate. Now I can drop it inside of a=
bout 15 mins!<br><br>Good luck,<br>Art<br></span><br><br><hr><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma; font-weight:bold">From: </span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma; font-weight:normal;">Richard Saun=
ders <rhsaund@yahoo.com></span><br><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font=
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ght:normal;">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</span><br><span style=3D"font-siz=
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in sail area and rudder slop</span><br><br><div style=3D"font-family:tahoma=
, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div><font color=3D"#000000">Hi Ca=
rl, </font></div><div> </div><div><font color=3D"#000000">My racing ma=
in is 321 sq.ft. with 1 full length top batten. My dacron cruising ma=
in is 305 sq.ft. with 2 full length top battens. The roach on bo=
th hit the backstay and often annoyingly hang up in light wind conditi=
ons. I have had no experience with the replacing rudder bearings, ye=
t. </font></div><div><font color=3D"#000000"></font> </div><div>=
<font color=3D"#000000">Dick Saunders</font></div><div><font color=3D"#0000=
00">Out of Reach, Hull #18<br></font></div><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 1=
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From:</span></b> Carl Gish <carlgish@yahoo.com><br><b><span style=3D"=
FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</span></b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br><b><span =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, February 27, 2009 10:2=
5:31 AM<br><b><span style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</span></b> [frers-=
list]Main sail area and rudder slop<br></font><br><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE: =
12pt; COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><div>Two q=
uestions for the esteemed Frers fleet</div><div> </div><div>1) I'm get=
ting a new main made and I'm wondering what the most appropriate cut us. I'=
ve got one qoute for a 290 sqft sail that has minimal roach etc and another=
for a 320 Sq ft sail. I saw no main sail area requirement in the Is there =
a class requirement in the class association rules and regulations. What si=
ze sail do most boats carry? the measurements I am using are <font fa=
ce=3D"TimesNewRoman,Bold" size=3D"5"><font face=3D"TimesNewRoman,Bold" size=
=3D"5"> <p align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2"><strong>I: 45.00</strong></font>=
</p><p align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2"><strong>J: 13.48</strong></font></p>=
<p align=3D"left"><font size=3D"2"><strong>P: 39.10</strong></font></p><p><=
font size=3D"2"><strong>E: 13.10</strong></font></p><p> </p><p><font s=
ize=3D"3">2) Rudder slop - I've got a fair amoint and I've checked out the =
extensive reading provided by a couple people on changing rudder bearings o=
n the site but before I take on what seems like a pretty daunting task I wa=
s wondering (hoping is perhaps a better expression) if there was a relative=
ly lightweight way to check the beadring/drop the rudder? </font></p><p><fo=
nt size=3D"3"></font> </p><p><font size=3D"3">Thanks in advance for an=
y quidance/advice</font></p><p><font size=3D"3"></font> </p><p><font s=
ize=3D"3">Regards</font></p><p><font size=3D"3"></font> </p><p><font s=
ize=3D"3">Carl</font></p><p><font size=3D"3">Pressure Drop </font></p></fon=
t></font></div><div> </div><div> </div></div></div></div></div></=
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