[frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
Scott Marino
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Mon, 5 Oct 2009 10:56:37 -0700 (PDT)
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Risoluto has a pump mounted on the bulkhead wall uner the vanity in the hea=
d.=A0 The discharge is piped out the side of the boat in the area of the he=
ad via a short hose.=A0 A smaller person can reach the pump for servicing a=
nd the hose run is short for limited resistance.
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
From: FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net>
Subject: [frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com, "rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca>, "Da=
vid Nauber" <dnauber@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglo=
bal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@op=
tonline.net>
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:24 AM
The previous owners for Relentless mounted a bilge pump in the port locker =
under the port berth near the bulkhead wall of the head and just forward of=
the batteries.=A0 This works well and allows you some elbow room to replac=
e the diaphragm periodically although I never have replaced it.=A0 I bought=
a small auto pump that would fit down fairly deep in the bilge and that ha=
s worked pretty well.=A0 One thing that does affect water pump out ability =
and you see it everywhere is the tubing that is corrugated.=A0 Each little =
grove in that line slows the flow.=A0 For the best flow, and I didn't use i=
t but should have, you want a smooth walled line.
=A0
Frank Albert
Relentless
41621
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, David Nauber <dnauber@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: David Nauber <dnauber@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com, "rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca>
Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglo=
bal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@op=
tonline.net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:55 AM
Hi Rod,
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Wolverine's=A0manual bilge pump is in the same location as yours and needs =
to be repaired/replaced. If you know anyone small enough to get back there,=
let me know.
=A0
Our automatic bilge pump is mounted near the fresh water system pump on the=
starboard side aft of the engine. It's accessible from the cockpit lazeret=
te.=20
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Do I owe you any other measurements or photos for the tuning guide?=20
=A0
Regards,
=A0
Dave
--- On Sun, 10/4/09, rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca> wrote:
From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglo=
bal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "David Nauber" <dnauber@yah=
oo.com>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonline.net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:09 AM
Hi Fellow Frers 33 Sailors;
=A0
Hope you all had a great season.=A0 We've had the Tuning Guide posted for a=
few months now.=A0 I have a few minor changes to finalize it (rig measurem=
ents) so if anyone has any additional suggestions please let me know.
=A0
The second item I have relates to some problem areas relating to bilge pump=
location and operation.
The manual bilge pump is located on the port side of the cockpit just aft o=
f the wheel and discharges overboard near the waterline.=A0 Convenient loca=
tion but a long haul for the water to get overboard.=A0 I seem to be loosin=
g suction.=A0 Difficult area to get to.=A0 Has anyone experienced this prob=
lem and if so how did you rectify it?
Electric bilge pump located under the port settee with the discharge port s=
ide aft just above the manual bilge pump near the gunwhale.=A0 There is a f=
loat switch in the bilge and a strainer in the hose before it enters the pu=
mp.=A0 Either the pump is too small, not working properly or the discharge =
hose is too long.=A0 The result is that even if the bilge is full it takes =
forever to empty it using the electric bilge pump.=A0 Wondering if everyone=
has the same arrangement of if some have moved the bilge pump discharge lo=
cation closer to the pump.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
=A0
Rod Stright
Equinox
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top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Risoluto has a pump mounted on the bulkhead w=
all uner the vanity in the head. The discharge is piped out the side =
of the boat in the area of the head via a short hose. A smaller perso=
n can reach the pump for servicing and the hose run is short for limited re=
sistance.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 10/5/09, FRANCIS ALBERT <I><fxalbert@pro=
digy.net></I></B> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net>=
<BR>Subject: [frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides<BR>To: frers-lis=
t@lists.frers33.com, "rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca>, "David Nau=
ber" <dnauber@yahoo.com><BR>Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gma=
il.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <j=
im.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonline.net><BR>D=
ate: Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:24 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>The previous owners for Relentless mounted a bilge pump in the port lo=
cker under the port berth near the bulkhead wall of the head and just forwa=
rd of the batteries. This works well and allows you some elbow room t=
o replace the diaphragm periodically although I never have replaced it.&nbs=
p; I bought a small auto pump that would fit down fairly deep in the bilge =
and that has worked pretty well. One thing that does affect water pum=
p out ability and you see it everywhere is the tubing that is corrugated.&n=
bsp; Each little grove in that line slows the flow. For the best flow=
, and I didn't use it but should have, you want a smooth walled line.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Frank Albert</DIV>
<DIV>Relentless</DIV>
<DIV>41621<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 10/5/09, David <SPAN>Nauber</SPAN> <I><=
dnauber@yahoo.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: David Nauber <dnauber@yahoo.com><BR>S=
ubject: Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides<BR>To: frers-list@lists.frers33.c=
om, "rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca><BR>Cc: "Neal Melanson" <n=
eal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Ji=
m Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonl=
ine.net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net<BR>Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:55 AM=
<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Hi Rod,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Wolverine's manual bilge pump is in the same location as yours an=
d needs to be repaired/replaced. If you know anyone small enough to get bac=
k there, let me know.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Our automatic bilge pump is mounted near the fresh water system pump o=
n the starboard side aft of the engine. It's accessible from the cockpit <S=
PAN>lazerette</SPAN>. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Do I owe you any other measurements or photos for the tuning guide? </=
DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dave<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 10/4/09, rod stright <I><strightr@eastli=
nk.ca></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(=
16,16,255) 2px solid"><BR>From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca><BR=
>Subject: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides<BR>To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
<BR>Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <e=
conmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Davi=
d Nauber" <dnauber@yahoo.com>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonline.=
net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net<BR>Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:09 AM<BR>=
<BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Hi Fellow Frers 33 Sailors;</FONT></DIV=
>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Hope you all had a great season. =
We've had the Tuning Guide posted for a few months now. I have a few =
minor changes to finalize it (rig measurements) so if anyone has any additi=
onal suggestions please let me know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>The second item I have relates to some =
problem areas relating to bilge pump location and operation.</FONT></DIV>
<OL>
<LI><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>The manual bilge pump is located on the =
port side of the cockpit just aft of the wheel and discharges overboard nea=
r the waterline. Convenient location but a long haul for the water to=
get overboard. I seem to be loosing suction. Difficult area to=
get to. Has anyone experienced this problem and if so how did you re=
ctify it?</FONT></LI>
<LI><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Electric bilge pump located under the po=
rt settee with the discharge port side aft just above the manual bilge pump=
near the gunwhale. There is a float switch in the bilge and a strain=
er in the hose before it enters the pump. Either the pump is too smal=
l, not working properly or the discharge hose is too long. The result=
is that even if the bilge is full it takes forever to empty it using the e=
lectric bilge pump. Wondering if everyone has the same arrangement of=
if some have moved the bilge pump discharge location closer to the pump.</=
FONT></LI></OL>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Thanks in advance for your replies.</FO=
NT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000080 size=3D2>Rod Stright<BR>Equinox</FONT></DIV></DI=
V></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD>=
</TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>=0A=0A
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