[frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
rod stright
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Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:26:33 -0300
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Thanks Scott, that sounds like the way I'll go.
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From: Scott Marino
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com ; rod stright ; David Nauber
Cc: Neal Melanson ; Mark Dixon ; Jim Mormile ; Arthur Kelley
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
Risoluto has a pump mounted on the bulkhead wall uner the vanity in the head. The discharge is piped out the side of the boat in the area of the head via a short hose. A smaller person can reach the pump for servicing and the hose run is short for limited resistance.
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
From: FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net>
Subject: [frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com, "rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca>, "David Nauber" <dnauber@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonline.net>
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:24 AM
The previous owners for Relentless mounted a bilge pump in the port locker under the port berth near the bulkhead wall of the head and just forward of the batteries. This works well and allows you some elbow room to replace the diaphragm periodically although I never have replaced it. I bought a small auto pump that would fit down fairly deep in the bilge and that has worked pretty well. One thing that does affect water pump out ability and you see it everywhere is the tubing that is corrugated. Each little grove in that line slows the flow. For the best flow, and I didn't use it but should have, you want a smooth walled line.
Frank Albert
Relentless
41621
--- On Mon, 10/5/09, David Nauber <dnauber@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: David Nauber <dnauber@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com, "rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca>
Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonline.net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net
Date: Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:55 AM
Hi Rod,
Wolverine's manual bilge pump is in the same location as yours and needs to be repaired/replaced. If you know anyone small enough to get back there, let me know.
Our automatic bilge pump is mounted near the fresh water system pump on the starboard side aft of the engine. It's accessible from the cockpit lazerette.
Do I owe you any other measurements or photos for the tuning guide?
Regards,
Dave
--- On Sun, 10/4/09, rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca> wrote:
From: rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca>
Subject: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Cc: "Neal Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon" <econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile" <jim.mormile@snet.net>, "David Nauber" <dnauber@yahoo.com>, "Arthur Kelley" <akelley@optonline.net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net
Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:09 AM
Hi Fellow Frers 33 Sailors;
Hope you all had a great season. We've had the Tuning Guide posted for a few months now. I have a few minor changes to finalize it (rig measurements) so if anyone has any additional suggestions please let me know.
The second item I have relates to some problem areas relating to bilge pump location and operation.
1.. The manual bilge pump is located on the port side of the cockpit just aft of the wheel and discharges overboard near the waterline. Convenient location but a long haul for the water to get overboard. I seem to be loosing suction. Difficult area to get to. Has anyone experienced this problem and if so how did you rectify it?
2.. Electric bilge pump located under the port settee with the discharge port side aft just above the manual bilge pump near the gunwhale. There is a float switch in the bilge and a strainer in the hose before it enters the pump. Either the pump is too small, not working properly or the discharge hose is too long. The result is that even if the bilge is full it takes forever to empty it using the electric bilge pump. Wondering if everyone has the same arrangement of if some have moved the bilge pump discharge location closer to the pump.
Thanks in advance for your replies.
Rod Stright
Equinox
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Thanks Scott, that sounds like the way I'll
go.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=scottamarino@yahoo.com href="mailto:scottamarino@yahoo.com">Scott
Marino</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=frers-list@lists.frers33.com
href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</A> ;
<A title=strightr@eastlink.ca href="mailto:strightr@eastlink.ca">rod
stright</A> ; <A title=dnauber@yahoo.com href="mailto:dnauber@yahoo.com">David
Nauber</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=neal.melanson@gmail.com
href="mailto:neal.melanson@gmail.com">Neal Melanson</A> ; <A
title=econmar@sbcglobal.net href="mailto:econmar@sbcglobal.net">Mark Dixon</A>
; <A title=jim.mormile@snet.net href="mailto:jim.mormile@snet.net">Jim
Mormile</A> ; <A title=akelley@optonline.net
href="mailto:akelley@optonline.net">Arthur Kelley</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps
and Tuning Guides</DIV>
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<TD vAlign=top>Risoluto has a pump mounted on the bulkhead wall uner the
vanity in the head. The discharge is piped out the side of the
boat in the area of the head via a short hose. A smaller person
can reach the pump for servicing and the hose run is short for limited
resistance.<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 10/5/09, FRANCIS ALBERT <I><<A
href="mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.net">fxalbert@prodigy.net</A>></I></B>
wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
FRANCIS ALBERT <<A
href="mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.net">fxalbert@prodigy.net</A>><BR>Subject:
[frers-list]Re: Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</A>,
"rod stright" <<A
href="mailto:strightr@eastlink.ca">strightr@eastlink.ca</A>>,
"David Nauber" <<A
href="mailto:dnauber@yahoo.com">dnauber@yahoo.com</A>><BR>Cc: "Neal
Melanson" <<A
href="mailto:neal.melanson@gmail.com">neal.melanson@gmail.com</A>>,
"Mark Dixon" <<A
href="mailto:econmar@sbcglobal.net">econmar@sbcglobal.net</A>>,
"Jim Mormile" <<A
href="mailto:jim.mormile@snet.net">jim.mormile@snet.net</A>>,
"Arthur Kelley" <<A
href="mailto:akelley@optonline.net">akelley@optonline.net</A>><BR>Date:
Monday, October 5, 2009, 10:24 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>The previous owners for Relentless mounted a bilge pump in
the port locker under the port berth near the bulkhead wall of
the head and just forward of the batteries. This works
well and allows you some elbow room to replace the diaphragm
periodically although I never have replaced it. I bought a
small auto pump that would fit down fairly deep in the bilge and
that has worked pretty well. One thing that does affect
water pump out ability and you see it everywhere is the tubing
that is corrugated. Each little grove in that line slows
the flow. For the best flow, and I didn't use it but
should have, you want a smooth walled line.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Frank Albert</DIV>
<DIV>Relentless</DIV>
<DIV>41621<BR><BR>--- On <B>Mon, 10/5/09, David
<SPAN>Nauber</SPAN> <I><dnauber@yahoo.com></I></B>
wrote:<BR></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
David Nauber <dnauber@yahoo.com><BR>Subject: Re: Bilge
Pumps and Tuning Guides<BR>To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com,
"rod stright" <strightr@eastlink.ca><BR>Cc: "Neal
Melanson" <neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon"
<econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile"
<jim.mormile@snet.net>, "Arthur Kelley"
<akelley@optonline.net>, fxalbert@prodigy.net<BR>Date:
Monday, October 5, 2009, 8:55 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV>Hi Rod,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Wolverine's manual bilge pump is in the same
location as yours and needs to be repaired/replaced. If
you know anyone small enough to get back there, let me
know.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Our automatic bilge pump is mounted near the fresh
water system pump on the starboard side aft of the
engine. It's accessible from the cockpit
<SPAN>lazerette</SPAN>. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Do I owe you any other measurements or photos for
the tuning guide? </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Dave<BR><BR>--- On <B>Sun, 10/4/09, rod stright
<I><strightr@eastlink.ca></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From:
rod stright <strightr@eastlink.ca><BR>Subject:
Bilge Pumps and Tuning Guides<BR>To:
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<BR>Cc: "Neal Melanson"
<neal.melanson@gmail.com>, "Mark Dixon"
<econmar@sbcglobal.net>, "Jim Mormile"
<jim.mormile@snet.net>, "David Nauber"
<dnauber@yahoo.com>, "Arthur Kelley"
<akelley@optonline.net>,
fxalbert@prodigy.net<BR>Date: Sunday, October 4, 2009,
7:09 AM<BR><BR>
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<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Hi Fellow Frers 33
Sailors;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Hope you all had a
great season. We've had the Tuning Guide posted
for a few months now. I have a few minor changes
to finalize it (rig measurements) so if anyone has any
additional suggestions please let me
know.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>The second item I have
relates to some problem areas relating to bilge pump
location and operation.</FONT></DIV>
<OL>
<LI><FONT color=#000080 size=2>The manual bilge pump
is located on the port side of the cockpit just aft
of the wheel and discharges overboard near the
waterline. Convenient location but a long haul
for the water to get overboard. I seem to be
loosing suction. Difficult area to get
to. Has anyone experienced this problem and if
so how did you rectify it?</FONT>
<LI><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Electric bilge pump
located under the port settee with the discharge
port side aft just above the manual bilge pump near
the gunwhale. There is a float switch in the
bilge and a strainer in the hose before it enters
the pump. Either the pump is too small, not
working properly or the discharge hose is too
long. The result is that even if the bilge is
full it takes forever to empty it using the electric
bilge pump. Wondering if everyone has the same
arrangement of if some have moved the bilge pump
discharge location closer to the
pump.</FONT></LI></OL>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Thanks in advance for
your replies.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#000080 size=2>Rod
Stright<BR>Equinox</FONT></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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