[frers-list]Origo stove and oven
Arthur Kelley
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Wed, 27 Oct 2010 16:32:10 -0400
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Looking at the rules as spelled out in the Word doc on the site:
5.If the hot water heater (15 lbs) or fuel tank (40 lbs, @1/4 full) or oven (=
40 lbs excluding two burner stove top) have been permanently moved, removed,=
or not obtained when the boat was built, a weight equal to the item shall b=
e affixed in its intended location during all racing events.
A few important principles come out.=20
1. It does not allow that the stove can be removed, only the oven. We can di=
scuss how to handle a missing stove in another thread if necessary.=20
2. The oven is assumed to be replaceable with 40 lbs of weight.=20
3. Substituted weight must be affixed in the intended location.=20
4. Anyone want to pull out their fuel tank?
#3 means that hot water heater substitute weight for example, cannot be cons=
olidated to the bilge, but must be in the lazarette on the shelf where the h=
eater would have been. With regards to the oven I suspect it is generally ag=
reed that the weight can be placed in the space below the stove not necessar=
ily bolted to the bottom of the stove. However it should be noted that safet=
y, not only the letter of the rules suggest (require?) that the weights be a=
ffixed so that in the event of a knock down that they do not become life thr=
eatening projectiles.=20
We need to be mindful that the one design rules are designed to ensure that a=
n owner who cruises the boat can remain competitive with another boat which i=
s used exclusively for racing. It is not designed to be a strategy for remov=
ing a bunch of distributed weight and consolidating it centerline below the w=
aterline.=20
Thoughts?
Art Kelley
On Oct 27, 2010, at 9:25 AM, Neal Melanson <neal.melanson@gmail.com> wrote:
> ...lets all check the Class rules before we start on any weight saving pro=
grams. I started a fire storm years ago over PBO Backstays and Carbon Fibre=
Rudders.
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> On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Rod Stright <StrightR@eastlink.ca> wrote:=
> Anyone interested in purchasing an Origo stove and oven for the Frers 33, l=
ike new condition seldom used. Intend to replace with an Origo two burner s=
tove, would consider a trade.
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> Rod
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> Equinox
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> 902-444-0016
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div><div>Looking at the rules as spelled ou=
t in the Word doc on the site:</div><div><br><span class=3D"Apple-style-span=
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ont-style: italic; font-size: 12px; ">5.</div><span class=3D"s4" style=3D"li=
ne-height: 18px; font-style: italic; font-size: 18px; ">If the hot water hea=
ter (15 lbs) or fuel tank (40 lbs, @1/4 full) or oven (40 lbs excluding two b=
urner stove top) have been permanently moved, removed, or not obtained when t=
he boat was built, a weight equal to the item shall be affixed in its intend=
ed location during all racing events.</span></div></span><div><br></div><div=
>A few important principles come out. </div><div>1. It does not allow t=
hat the stove can be removed, only the oven. We can discuss how to handle a m=
issing stove in another thread if necessary. </div><div>2. The oven is a=
ssumed to be replaceable with 40 lbs of weight. </div><div>3. Substitut=
ed weight must be affixed in the intended location. </div><div>4. Anyon=
e want to pull out their fuel tank?</div><div><br></div><div>#3 means that h=
ot water heater substitute weight for example, cannot be consolidated to the=
bilge, but must be in the lazarette on the shelf where the heater would hav=
e been. With regards to the oven I suspect it is generally agreed that the w=
eight can be placed in the space below the stove not necessarily bolted to t=
he bottom of the stove. However it should be noted that safety, not only the=
letter of the rules suggest (require?) that the weights be affixed so that i=
n the event of a knock down that they do not become life threatening project=
iles. </div><div><br></div><div>We need to be mindful that the one desi=
gn rules are designed to ensure that an owner who cruises the boat can remai=
n competitive with another boat which is used exclusively for racing. It is n=
ot designed to be a strategy for removing a bunch of distributed weight and c=
onsolidating it centerline below the waterline. </div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Thoughts?</div><div><br></div>Art Kelley</div><div><br>On Oct 27, 2010, a=
t 9:25 AM, Neal Melanson <<a href=3D"mailto:neal.melanson@gmail.com"><a h=
ref=3D"mailto:neal.melanson@gmail.com">neal.melanson@gmail.com</a></a>> w=
rote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div>...lets al=
l check the Class rules before we start on any weight saving programs. =
I started a fire storm years ago over PBO Backstays and Carbon Fibre Rudder=
s.</div>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:12 AM, Rod Stright <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca"></a><a href=3D"mai=
lto:StrightR@eastlink.ca"><a href=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca">StrightR@e=
astlink.ca</a></a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', 'serif=
'; COLOR: #002060; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Anyone interested in purchasing an Origo=
stove and oven for the Frers 33, like new condition seldom used. Inte=
nd to replace with an Origo two burner stove, would consider a trade.</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', 'serif=
'; COLOR: #002060; FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', 'serif=
'; COLOR: #002060; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Rod</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', 'serif=
'; COLOR: #002060; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Equinox</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman', 'serif=
'; COLOR: #002060; FONT-SIZE: 12pt">902-444-0016</span></p></div></div></blo=
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