[frers-list]Frers 38

[Courtney Thomas]

Mark,

Thank you for your careful reply.

Not being familiar with rod rigging, how do I know if its OK or needs 
replacing ? I know I can ask but that still leaves me in the dark and 
unsatisfied  :-)  Besides, there are no other boats with rod
rigging where I am hauled, its uncommon down here, and I might be taking 
advice from someone who has a hidden agenda, as in sales  :-)

On page 6 of 7 of the 1990 Carroll Marine Sales Brochure and Spec Sheet, 
which is on the frers33 website, wing keel is listed as 4' 11" and the 
draft as 6' 3", which I assume means that the wing keel
was an option and reduced the draft by 16", which appealed to me in that 
my primary intended sail area is the Caribbean, though I must say I'm a 
bit dismayed at the prospect of being the only wing
pilot  :-)

Anyway, if you could provide the referenced "keel offsets", I'd be most 
grateful as I may decide to later go that route, if not now.

Cordially,

Courtney


On 8/19/2011 5:42 PM, Mark Dixon wrote:
> Hi Courtney. To chime in with what others have stated, I wouldn't 
> alter the rig in any way (dimensionally or structurally). The rig is 
> not an overpowering rig to begin with, and the area of positive 
> stability bears this out at @ 112 degrees (a stiff boat is @125* where 
> a tender boat will be @ 100*). Change down sail size when you 
> constantly carry more than 18 degrees of heel.  Furthermore, the boat 
> wasn't designed to have the chain plates farther out than they are 
> now. Becaus doing so could place loads from the rig out to places 
> where the hull was not designed to take them (remember, all loads in a 
> sailboat are designed to be transmitted to the hull in a specific 
> fashion. Without proper engineering it may cause a failure in some 
> area you didn't expect.) Also, unless the rod rigging shows obvious 
> signs of corrosion, don't change it. In general, rod rigging tends to 
> suffer less from corrosion than wire rigging because there are fewer 
> places for salt to accumulate and cracks to hide.
> I don't believe the Frers 33 ever had a factory option for a wing keel 
> (there is no evidence of this in over 6500 boat dimensions cataloged 
> for any of the racing databases past or present or in any factory info.)
> If there was a wing, it was an after market version that was 
> installed. It would be relatively easy to get keel offsets to have a 
> replacement made up.
> Regarding the rudder, it has enough authority to handle the boat in 
> almost any situation except a spinnaker  oscillation broach (but then 
> most boats won't handle that either). Any handling question will have 
> more to do with the hull's canoe body (a quasi IMS design (read a 
> slightly pinched stern). It does not carry the hips as far aft as post 
> IMS designs but it's way better than any boat with the old IOR pinched 
> stern.
> In short, don't re-invent the wheel. Just put air in the tire and let 
> it do what it was designed to do.
> Regards, Mark
>
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