[frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.
FRANCIS ALBERT
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Fri, 26 Aug 2011 20:35:25 -0700 (PDT)
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You can weld aluminum with a torch however the proper way to weld aluminum =
that, will be under stress is with a TIG welding machine using inert gas (A=
rgon is the preferred gas) and an aluminum welding rod.=A0 They have been u=
sing this method for 70 years welding pressure vessels.=A0 If you know what=
you're doing it's evey bit as strong as the original.=A0=20
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From: rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us <rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: [frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.
To: "xFrers Owners" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 8:04 PM
>I'm no expert, but you have to be careful about torch welding tempered
aluminum. The heat can anneal (soften) the local heated area. This could
lead to failure under load. I think your best option is to contact
hallspars.com....the original manufacturer. May have a spare they want to
get rid of.
Frank,
>
> Thanks once again for the help.
>
> Unfortunately the tip was chewed up. I have a new replacement part cost
> of $400 from a local rigger. Having never bought a spreader I don't know
> if that's market competitive or if the vendor is critical.
>
> What vendors would you patronize for this item and what would you look
> for to determine if this fix is all it should be ? Is there any warranty
> or guaranty that should be sought or any vendor to avoid ?
>
> Any caveats regarding the installation ?
>
> Cordially,
>
> Courtney
>
> On 8/26/2011 3:49 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
>> Courtney,
>> Depends.=A0 The spreader has mostly a compression load on it from the
>> mast and the attachments at the deck.=A0 I don't recall but I'm guessing
>> they're aluminum.=A0 You can get aluminum welded.=A0 I actually had the
>> same thing with my first boat only they hit the base of the mast and
>> took a big slice out of it with the lawnmower blade.=A0 I had it welded
>> and you couldn't even see where the weld or the gash was.=A0 It was fine
>> for the life of that boat.
>> If it's just a slice out of the spreader you can get that fixed.=A0 If
>> the tip of the spreader has been destroyed then you're going to need a
>> new spreader.=A0 I wouldn't change the size of the spreaders (ones
>> chewed up at the end so just make a new end only shorter and then
>> match the other side).=A0 I think that would change the load patterns
>> and could be dangerous.
>> I'd find a place that can do aluminum welding and then take it in to
>> them and see what they say, or to a rigger.
>> Frank
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, Courtney Thomas
>> /<courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0From: Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Subject: [frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 9:33 AM
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0My recently acquired Frers33 has a spreader that was hit by =
the
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0previous owner's lawnmower blades while stored in his back y=
ard,
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0which chewed up one end.
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Can this be reliably repaired and if so by whom, and if not =
where
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0can a least cost replacement be had ?
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Appreciatively,
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0C.Thomas
>>
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0-- "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power=
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>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is t=
o
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0liberate the world."
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0Abraham Lincoln
>>
>>=A0 =A0=A0=A0"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force!=
Like
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<DIV>You can weld aluminum with a torch however the proper way to weld alum=
inum that, will be under stress is with a TIG welding machine using inert g=
as (Argon is the preferred gas) and an aluminum welding rod. They hav=
e been using this method for 70 years welding pressure vessels. If yo=
u know what you're doing it's evey bit as strong as the original. </D=
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s <I><rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us <rames@suffolk.l=
ib.ny.us><BR>Subject: Re: [frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.=
<BR>To: "xFrers Owners" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com><BR>Date: Frida=
y, August 26, 2011, 8:04 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV class=3DplainMail>>I'm no expert, but you have to be careful about =
torch welding tempered<BR>aluminum. The heat can anneal (soften) the local =
heated area. This could<BR>lead to failure under load. I think your best op=
tion is to contact<BR>hallspars.com....the original manufacturer. May have =
a spare they want to<BR>get rid of.<BR><BR><BR>Frank,<BR>><BR>> Thank=
s once again for the help.<BR>><BR>> Unfortunately the tip was chewed=
up. I have a new replacement part cost<BR>> of $400 from a local rigger=
. Having never bought a spreader I don't know<BR>> if that's market comp=
etitive or if the vendor is critical.<BR>><BR>> What vendors would yo=
u patronize for this item and what would you look<BR>> for to determine =
if this fix is all it should be ? Is there any warranty<BR>> or guaranty=
that should be sought or any vendor to avoid ?<BR>><BR>> Any caveats=
regarding the installation ?<BR>><BR>>
Cordially,<BR>><BR>> Courtney<BR>><BR>> On 8/26/2011 3:49 PM, =
FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:<BR>>> Courtney,<BR>>> Depends. The =
spreader has mostly a compression load on it from the<BR>>> mast and =
the attachments at the deck. I don't recall but I'm guessing<BR>>&=
gt; they're aluminum. You can get aluminum welded. I actually h=
ad the<BR>>> same thing with my first boat only they hit the base of =
the mast and<BR>>> took a big slice out of it with the lawnmower blad=
e. I had it welded<BR>>> and you couldn't even see where the we=
ld or the gash was. It was fine<BR>>> for the life of that boat=
.<BR>>> If it's just a slice out of the spreader you can get that fix=
ed. If<BR>>> the tip of the spreader has been destroyed then yo=
u're going to need a<BR>>> new spreader. I wouldn't change the =
size of the spreaders (ones<BR>>> chewed up at the end so just
make a new end only shorter and then<BR>>> match the other side).&nb=
sp; I think that would change the load patterns<BR>>> and could be da=
ngerous.<BR>>> I'd find a place that can do aluminum welding and then=
take it in to<BR>>> them and see what they say, or to a rigger.<BR>&=
gt;> Frank<BR>>><BR>>> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, Courtney Thomas=
<BR>>> /<<A href=3D"http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=
=3Dcourtneycthomas@bellsouth.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:courtneycthomas@bellsou=
th.net">courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net</A>>/* wrote:<BR>>><BR>>&=
gt;<BR>>> From: Courtney Thomas <<A href=
=3D"http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dcourtneycthomas@bellsout=
h.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net">courtneycthomas@bel=
lsouth.net</A>><BR>>> Subject: [frers-list=
]Replacement or repair of spreader.<BR>>> To:=
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.frers33.com</A><BR>>> Date: Friday, August 2=
6, 2011, 9:33 AM<BR>>><BR>>> My recentl=
y acquired Frers33 has a spreader that was hit by the<BR>>> &nb=
sp; previous owner's lawnmower blades while stored in his back y=
ard,<BR>>> which chewed up one end.<BR>>&g=
t;<BR>>> Can this be reliably repaired and if=
so by whom, and if not where<BR>>> can a lea=
st cost replacement be had ?<BR>>><BR>>> &nbs=
p;Appreciatively,<BR>>><BR>>> C.Thomas<=
BR>>><BR>>><BR>>> -- "Any people =
anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have<BR>>>
the right to rise up, and shake off the existing g=
overnment, and<BR>>> form a new one that suit=
s them better.This is a most valuable - a<BR>>> &nb=
sp;most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to<BR>>>=
; liberate the world."<BR>>><BR>>> =
; Abraham Lincoln<BR>>><BR>>> &nb=
sp; "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force! Like<=
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earful master."<BR>>><BR>>> George Wash=
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