[frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.
Courtney Thomas
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Thank you Frank.
The boat is in St.Augustine, Fl., near Jacksonville, so I'm sure there's
a competent TIG welder in that area, but I'd sure want to know that
they know what they're doin' as I don't want that rig on my head :-)
so, will probably buy a new one, if I can find one for a sane price.
Courtney
On 8/26/2011 11:35 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
> You can weld aluminum with a torch however the proper way to weld
> aluminum that, will be under stress is with a TIG welding machine
> using inert gas (Argon is the preferred gas) and an aluminum welding
> rod. They have been using this method for 70 years welding pressure
> vessels. If you know what you're doing it's evey bit as strong as the
> original.
> FXA
>
> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us
> /<rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us <rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
> Subject: Re: [frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.
> To: "xFrers Owners" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 8:04 PM
>
> >I'm no expert, but you have to be careful about torch welding
> tempered
> aluminum. The heat can anneal (soften) the local heated area. This
> could
> lead to failure under load. I think your best option is to contact
> hallspars.com....the original manufacturer. May have a spare they
> want to
> get rid of.
>
>
> Frank,
> >
> > Thanks once again for the help.
> >
> > Unfortunately the tip was chewed up. I have a new replacement
> part cost
> > of $400 from a local rigger. Having never bought a spreader I
> don't know
> > if that's market competitive or if the vendor is critical.
> >
> > What vendors would you patronize for this item and what would
> you look
> > for to determine if this fix is all it should be ? Is there any
> warranty
> > or guaranty that should be sought or any vendor to avoid ?
> >
> > Any caveats regarding the installation ?
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > Courtney
> >
> > On 8/26/2011 3:49 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
> >> Courtney,
> >> Depends. The spreader has mostly a compression load on it from the
> >> mast and the attachments at the deck. I don't recall but I'm
> guessing
> >> they're aluminum. You can get aluminum welded. I actually had the
> >> same thing with my first boat only they hit the base of the
> mast and
> >> took a big slice out of it with the lawnmower blade. I had it
> welded
> >> and you couldn't even see where the weld or the gash was. It
> was fine
> >> for the life of that boat.
> >> If it's just a slice out of the spreader you can get that
> fixed. If
> >> the tip of the spreader has been destroyed then you're going to
> need a
> >> new spreader. I wouldn't change the size of the spreaders (ones
> >> chewed up at the end so just make a new end only shorter and then
> >> match the other side). I think that would change the load patterns
> >> and could be dangerous.
> >> I'd find a place that can do aluminum welding and then take it
> in to
> >> them and see what they say, or to a rigger.
> >> Frank
> >>
> >> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, Courtney Thomas
> >> /<courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net
> <http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>>/*
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net
> <http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>>
> >> Subject: [frers-list]Replacement or repair of spreader.
> >> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> <http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> >> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 9:33 AM
> >>
> >> My recently acquired Frers33 has a spreader that was hit by the
> >> previous owner's lawnmower blades while stored in his back
> yard,
> >> which chewed up one end.
> >>
> >> Can this be reliably repaired and if so by whom, and if not
> where
> >> can a least cost replacement be had ?
> >>
> >> Appreciatively,
> >>
> >> C.Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >> -- "Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the
> power, have
> >> the right to rise up, and shake off the existing
> government, and
> >> form a new one that suits them better.This is a most
> valuable - a
> >> most sacred right - a right, which we hope and believe, is to
> >> liberate the world."
> >>
> >> Abraham Lincoln
> >>
> >> "Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is
> force! Like
> >> fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
> >>
> >> George Washington
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Thank you Frank.<br>
<br>
The boat is in St.Augustine, Fl., near Jacksonville, so I'm sure
there's a competent TIG welder in that area, but I'd sure want to
know that<br>
they know what they're doin' as I don't want that rig on my head
:-) so, will probably buy a new one, if I can find one for a sane
price.<br>
<br>
Courtney<br>
<br>
On 8/26/2011 11:35 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
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<div>You can weld aluminum with a torch however the proper
way to weld aluminum that, will be under stress is with
a TIG welding machine using inert gas (Argon is the
preferred gas) and an aluminum welding rod. They have
been using this method for 70 years welding pressure
vessels. If you know what you're doing it's evey bit as
strong as the original. </div>
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<div><span>FXA</span><br>
<br>
--- On <b>Fri, 8/26/11, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us">rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us</a> <i><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us"><rames@suffolk.lib.ny.us></a></i></b>
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Subject: Re: [frers-list]Replacement or repair of
spreader.<br>
To: "xFrers Owners" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com"><frers-list@lists.frers33.com></a><br>
Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 8:04 PM<br>
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<div class="plainMail">>I'm no expert, but you have
to be careful about torch welding tempered<br>
aluminum. The heat can anneal (soften) the local
heated area. This could<br>
lead to failure under load. I think your best option
is to contact<br>
hallspars.com....the original manufacturer. May have a
spare they want to<br>
get rid of.<br>
<br>
<br>
Frank,<br>
><br>
> Thanks once again for the help.<br>
><br>
> Unfortunately the tip was chewed up. I have a new
replacement part cost<br>
> of $400 from a local rigger. Having never bought
a spreader I don't know<br>
> if that's market competitive or if the vendor is
critical.<br>
><br>
> What vendors would you patronize for this item
and what would you look<br>
> for to determine if this fix is all it should be
? Is there any warranty<br>
> or guaranty that should be sought or any vendor
to avoid ?<br>
><br>
> Any caveats regarding the installation ?<br>
><br>
> Cordially,<br>
><br>
> Courtney<br>
><br>
> On 8/26/2011 3:49 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:<br>
>> Courtney,<br>
>> Depends. The spreader has mostly a
compression load on it from the<br>
>> mast and the attachments at the deck. I
don't recall but I'm guessing<br>
>> they're aluminum. You can get aluminum
welded. I actually had the<br>
>> same thing with my first boat only they hit
the base of the mast and<br>
>> took a big slice out of it with the lawnmower
blade. I had it welded<br>
>> and you couldn't even see where the weld or
the gash was. It was fine<br>
>> for the life of that boat.<br>
>> If it's just a slice out of the spreader you
can get that fixed. If<br>
>> the tip of the spreader has been destroyed
then you're going to need a<br>
>> new spreader. I wouldn't change the size of
the spreaders (ones<br>
>> chewed up at the end so just make a new end
only shorter and then<br>
>> match the other side). I think that would
change the load patterns<br>
>> and could be dangerous.<br>
>> I'd find a place that can do aluminum welding
and then take it in to<br>
>> them and see what they say, or to a rigger.<br>
>> Frank<br>
>><br>
>> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, Courtney Thomas<br>
>> /<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>><br>
>><br>
>> From: Courtney Thomas <<a
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>> Subject: [frers-list]Replacement or
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>> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 9:33 AM<br>
>><br>
>> My recently acquired Frers33 has a
spreader that was hit by the<br>
>> previous owner's lawnmower blades while
stored in his back yard,<br>
>> which chewed up one end.<br>
>><br>
>> Can this be reliably repaired and if so
by whom, and if not where<br>
>> can a least cost replacement be had ?<br>
>><br>
>> Appreciatively,<br>
>><br>
>> C.Thomas<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> -- "Any people anywhere, being inclined
and having the power, have<br>
>> the right to rise up, and shake off the
existing government, and<br>
>> form a new one that suits them
better.This is a most valuable - a<br>
>> most sacred right - a right, which we
hope and believe, is to<br>
>> liberate the world."<br>
>><br>
>> Abraham Lincoln<br>
>><br>
>> "Government is not reason; it is not
eloquence; it is force! Like<br>
>> fire, it is a dangerous servant and a
fearful master."<br>
>><br>
>> George Washington<br>
>>
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