[frers-list]Frers33 Offshore Capable ?
Arthur Kelley
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Wed, 11 May 2011 18:43:52 -0400
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That was 30-35 kt wind outside Buzzard's Bay. Double reefed main and #3. Th=
at was my delivery first day after buying the boat. 8' waves much more commo=
n on my various deliveries home from Newport.=20
Art Kelley
On May 11, 2011, at 7:36 AM, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
> Art,
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> What were the winds in those 10 foot waves?
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> Thanks,
> Frank Albert
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> --- On Tue, 5/10/11, Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net> wrote:
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> From: Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net>
> Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frers33 Offshore Capable ?
> To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2011, 10:54 PM
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> For a definitive answer you might reach out to Barrry Carrol who is still a=
ctive after selling the boat building business. I have always thought of the=
boat more for coastal racing/cruising but with nothing to back that up. The=
construction is moderately light. The phrase "reef early" comes to mind. I'=
ve done 10'+ waves with reefed main and #3 and clearly survived but don't kn=
ow the limits.=20
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> Art Kelley
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> On May 10, 2011, at 8:42 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> > I've raced the Frere 33 extensively for the last 5 years over 500 miles a=
nd I would say this is NOT an offshore boat. It has to little freeboard and i=
s much to tender of a boat. I've sailed the boat once in gale force winds an=
d it was a constant effort to maintain control. Don't take this boat offshor=
e.
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> > On Tue May 10th, 2011 4:47 PM EDT Courtney Thomas wrote:
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> >> Ahoy !
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> >> How suitable are the Frers33s for offshore work ? Transoceanic ?
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> >> Are there any subscribers who've actually used one for bluewater
> >> cruising and if so:
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> >> 1) how was it specifically outfitted for the voyage ?
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> >> 2) what would you do differently if repeated ?
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> >> 3) structurally adequate and if not, how would you alter ?
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> >> 4) unalterable deficiencies ?
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> >> 5) what passages were made ?
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> >> Appreciatively,
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> >> Courtney Thomas
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<html><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>That was 30-35 kt wind outside Buzzard'=
s Bay. Double reefed main and #3. That was my delivery first day after=
buying the boat. 8' waves much more common on my various deliveries home fr=
om Newport. <br><br>Art Kelley</div><div><br>On May 11, 2011, at 7:36 A=
M, FRANCIS ALBERT <<a href=3D"mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.net">fxalbert@prodi=
gy.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div=
><table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0"><tbody><tr><td vali=
gn=3D"top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><div>Art,</div>
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<div>What were the winds in those 10 foot waves?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Frank Albert<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 5/10/11, Arthur Kelley <i><<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:akelley@optonline.net">akelley@optonline.net</a>></i></b> wro=
te:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5p=
x; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From: Arthur Kelley <<a href=3D"mailto:akelley@o=
ptonline.net">akelley@optonline.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [frers-list]Frer=
s33 Offshore Capable ?<br>To: "<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.co=
m">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a>" <<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.=
frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a>><br>Date: Tuesday, May 10, 2=
011, 10:54 PM<br><br>
<div class=3D"plainMail">For a definitive answer you might reach out to Barr=
ry Carrol who is still active after selling the boat building business. I ha=
ve always thought of the boat more for coastal racing/cruising but with noth=
ing to back that up. The construction is moderately light. The phrase "reef e=
arly" comes to mind. I've done 10'+ waves with reefed main and #3 and clearl=
y survived but don't know the limits. <br><br>Art Kelley<br><br>On May 10, 2=
011, at 8:42 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT <<a href=3D"http://us.mc829.mail.yahoo.co=
m/mc/compose?to=3Dfxalbert@prodigy.net" ymailto=3D"mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.n=
et"><a href=3D"mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.net">fxalbert@prodigy.net</a></a>>=
wrote:<br><br>> I've raced the Frere 33 extensively for the last 5 years=
over 500 miles and I would say this is NOT an offshore boat. It has to litt=
le freeboard and is much to tender of a boat. I've sailed the boat once in g=
ale force winds and it was a constant effort to maintain control. Don't take=
this boat offshore.<br>>
<br>> On Tue May 10th, 2011 4:47 PM EDT Courtney Thomas wrote:<br>> <=
br>>> Ahoy !<br>>> <br>>> How suitable are the Frers33s fo=
r offshore work ? Transoceanic ?<br>>> <br>>> Are there any subs=
cribers who've actually used one for bluewater<br>>> cruising and if s=
o:<br>>> <br>>> 1) how was it specifically outfitted for the voy=
age ?<br>>> <br>>> 2) what would you do differently if repeated ?=
<br>>> <br>>> 3) structurally adequate and if not, how would you=
alter ?<br>>> <br>>> 4) unalterable deficiencies ?<br>>> <=
br>>> 5) what passages were made ?<br>>> <br>>> Appreciati=
vely,<br>>> <br>>> Courtney Thomas<br>>> <br>>> <br>=
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