[frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and sanitation hose
Neal Melanson
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Wed, 4 Apr 2012 18:09:57 -0400
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Hi Frank, can you shoot some pictures for us of that installation? Much
appreciated.
Neal
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote=
:
> Ed,
>
> First your going to need really, really good hose. I recommend Trident
> Premium Sanitation Hose (Black) from Defender Marine. It's not cheap at
> $7.99 a foot but there is no (NONE) smell from this hose. I've had it no=
w
> on the boat for 5 years, no problems. Next you're going to want a thick
> walled rigid plastic tank. You buy a flexible tank and it will stink and
> you will be sorry. Someone suggested a stainless steel tank once. You b=
uy
> that and you're boat will eventually be filled with waste water. Nothing
> but acid is more corrosive than human waste. It will eat right through S=
S
> but has no affect on plastic. I located my tank forward on the port side=
.
> Everything from the head is pumped directly into the tank. From the tank
> there is a Y valve which allows a pump out or overboard discharge if you'=
re
> offshore.
>
> My tank is smallish may be 20 maybe 15 gallons but it was the biggest tan=
k
> that would fit up front.
>
> I think the hose wound up costing me somewhere near $350. But when I
> sleep in the V-birth just 3 inches from that stuff and don't smell anythi=
ng
> bad I know it was one of the better boat investments.
>
> Good luck.
> Frank Albert 41621
>
> --- On *Wed, 4/4/12, William Thompson <foredeck@videotron.ca>* wrote:
>
>
> From: William Thompson <foredeck@videotron.ca>
> Subject: Re: [frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and
> sanitation hose
> To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2012, 12:28 PM
>
> Ed,
>
> Been poking into some of the same issues. Check out the Raritan site for
> tanks, and really good odor control info.
>
> Bill Thompson
> d'Ad lib
> Montreal
>
> William Thompson
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 2012-04-04, at 12:09 PM, "Bruton, Tom (GECAS)" <Tom.Bruton@gecas.com<h=
ttp://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DTom.Bruton@gecas.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Having similar problems with the bladder holding tank on my Frers 36,
> any good feedback would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Many thanks
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> *From:* frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com<http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com=
/mc/compose?to=3Dfrers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com>[mailto:
> frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed Putnam
> *Sent:* Monday, March 05, 2012 2:15 PM
> *To:* frers-list@lists.frers33.com<http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/comp=
ose?to=3Dfrers-list@lists.frers33.com>
> *Subject:* [frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and
> sanitation hose
>
>
>
> 1) I am looking to replace the original bladder water tank, with a
> rigid tank, moving it to the starboard side. Does anyone know of a good
> source for a good fitting tank? I would like to have it as far aft and lo=
w
> as possible, with a capacity of about 20 =96 30 gallons.
>
>
>
> 2) I=92m also in the process of trying to fix/improve the holding
> tank/plumbing set up. Trying to eliminate the potential for future odor
> problems. The current set up is not original. Does anyone have the origin=
al
> layout of the tank & plumbing for it? I=92ve seen the set up on Moose, cu=
stom
> tanks and clean. Only problem everything is forward, not exactly where I
> want the weight.
>
>
>
> From what I have read the air vent from the tank is not suppose to exceed
> 5 to 6 feet. I have removed the macerator pump as it was not functioning
> and inhibited getting to the shut off valve for the seacock, and removed
> the hoses which I could readily get to.
>
> Removing the remaining hoses are going to be a real chore as the tank was
> placed just above the seacock, so it is extremely difficult to remove the
> hose attached to it.
>
>
>
> My goal is to try to minimize the total amount of hose and above all no
> odor.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Ed Putnam
>
>
>
>
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Neal Melanson
89 Central St.
Rowley Ma. 01969
978 948 7189
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<div>Hi Frank, can you shoot some pictures for us of that installation?=A0 =
Much appreciated.</div><div>=A0</div><div>Neal<br><br></div><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote">On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 4:50 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT <span dir=3D"ltr=
"><<a href=3D"mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.net">fxalbert@prodigy.net</a>><=
/span> wrote:<br>
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color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid" class=
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<td style=3D"font:inherit;font-size-adjust:inherit;font-stretch:inherit" va=
lign=3D"top"><div>Ed,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>First your going to need really, really good hose.=A0 I recommend Trid=
ent Premium Sanitation Hose (Black) from Defender Marine.=A0 It's not c=
heap at $7.99 a foot but there is no (NONE)=A0smell from this hose.=A0 I=
9;ve had it now on the boat for 5 years, no problems.=A0 Next you're go=
ing to want a thick walled rigid plastic tank.=A0 You buy a flexible tank a=
nd=A0it=A0will stink and you will be sorry.=A0 Someone suggested a stainles=
s steel tank once.=A0 You buy that and you're boat will eventually be f=
illed with waste water.=A0 Nothing but acid is more corrosive than human wa=
ste.=A0 It will eat right through SS but has no affect on plastic.=A0 I loc=
ated my tank forward on the port side.=A0 Everything from the head is pumpe=
d directly into the tank.=A0 From the tank there is a Y valve which allows =
a pump out or overboard discharge if you're offshore.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>My tank is smallish may be 20 maybe 15 gallons but it was the biggest =
tank that would fit up front.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0 I think the hose wound up costing me somewhere near $350.=A0 But w=
hen I sleep in the V-birth just=A03 inches from that stuff and don't sm=
ell anything bad=A0I know it was one of the better boat=A0investments.</div=
>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Good luck.=A0 <br>Frank Albert 41621</div>
<div><br>--- On <b>Wed, 4/4/12, William Thompson <i><<a href=3D"mailto:f=
oredeck@videotron.ca" target=3D"_blank">foredeck@videotron.ca</a>></i></=
b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left-color:rgb=
(16,16,255);border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid"><br>From: Willia=
m Thompson <<a href=3D"mailto:foredeck@videotron.ca" target=3D"_blank">f=
oredeck@videotron.ca</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [<span>frers</span>-list]suggestions for replacing water tank =
and sanitation hose<br>To: "<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33=
.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a>" <<a href=
=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list@lists=
.frers33.com</a>><br>
Date: Wednesday, April 4, 2012, 12:28 PM<br><br>
<div>
<div>
<div>Ed,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Been p<span>oking into some of the same issues. Check out the Raritan =
site for tanks, and really good odor control info.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>Bill Thompson=A0</div>
<div>d'Ad lib=A0</div>
<div>Montreal<br><br>William Thompson=20
<div>Sent from my iPad</div></div>
<div><br>On 2012-04-04, at 12:09 PM, "Bruton, Tom (GECAS)" <<a=
href=3D"http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3DTom.Bruton@gecas.co=
m" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Tom.Bruton@gecas.com</a>> wrote:<b=
r><br>
</div>
<div></div>
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<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">Having similar probl=
ems with the bladder holding tank on my Frers 36, any good feedback would b=
e greatly appreciated.</span></p></div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">Many thanks</span></=
p></div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">Tom</span></p></bloc=
kquote></div>
<p><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:11pt">=A0</span></p></div>
<div>
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order-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentColor currentColor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
>
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10pt"> <a href=3D"http://us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfrers-l=
ist-admin@lists.frers33.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-=
admin@lists.frers33.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@list=
s.frers33.com" target=3D"_blank">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>] <b=
>On Behalf Of </b>Ed Putnam<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 05, 2012 2:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"http:/=
/us.mc811.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dfrers-list@lists.frers33.com" rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br><b>Subj=
ect:</b> [frers-list]suggestions for replacing water tank and sanitation ho=
se</span></p>
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<p>=A0
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:0.5in"><span>1)<=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span><span>I am looki=
ng to replace the original bladder water tank, with a rigid tank, moving it=
to the starboard side. Does anyone know of a good source for a good fittin=
g tank? I would like to have it as far aft and low as possible, with a capa=
city of about 20 =96 30 gallons.</span><span></span></p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin-left:0.25in"><span>=A0</span></p></div>
<p style=3D"margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0pt;margin-left:0.5in"><span>2)<=
/span><span style=3D"font-size:7pt">=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 </span><span>I=92m also=
in the process of trying to fix/improve the holding tank/plumbing set up. =
Trying to eliminate the potential for future odor problems. The current set=
up is not original. Does anyone have the original layout of the tank &=
plumbing for it? I=92ve seen the set up on Moose, custom tanks and clean. =
Only problem everything is forward, not exactly where I want the weight.</s=
pan><span></span>
<p><span>=A0</span>
<p><span>From what I have read the air vent from the tank is not suppose to=
exceed 5 to 6 feet. I have removed the macerator pump as it was not functi=
oning and inhibited getting to the shut off valve for the seacock, and remo=
ved the hoses which I could readily get to.</span><span></span>
<p><span>Removing the remaining hoses are going to be a real chore as the t=
ank was placed just above the seacock, so it is extremely difficult to remo=
ve the hose attached to it. </span><span></span>
<p><span>=A0</span>
<p><span>My goal is to try to minimize the total amount of hose and above a=
ll no odor.</span><span></span>
<p><span>=A0</span>
<p><span>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.</span><span></span>
<p><span>=A0</span>
<p><span>Thanks</span><span></span>
<p><span>Ed Putnam</span><span></span>
<p style=3D"line-height:13pt;margin-bottom:10pt"><span>=A0</span></p><p></p=
><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><=
/p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></p></blockquote></td></tr>
</tbody></table></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><div>Ne=
al Melanson</div><div>89 Central St.</div><div>Rowley Ma. 01969</div><div>=
=A0</div><div>978 948 7189</div><br>
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