[frers-list]ECSA class rating
William Thompson
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:31:32 -0500
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I race at 114 in Montreal, with a keel shortened to 5'8" and a bulb making an additional 180 lb over the original keel weight. The St Lawrence Valley Yacht Racing Assoc. said they were giving me 3 sec. a mile over the 111 they would have assigned unmodified.
William Thompson
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On 2012-11-20, at 5:15 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> Edgar,
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> PHRF of the Chesapeake rates the Frers 33 at 114 which is a difficult rating to sail to. I do okay but we sail the heck out of that boat and the crew work is impeccable.
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> Thanks,
> Frank Albert
> RELENTLESS
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> --- On Tue, 11/20/12, Edgar Smith <edgar@geomatrixproductions.com> wrote:
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> From: Edgar Smith <edgar@geomatrixproductions.com>
> Subject: [frers-list]ECSA class rating
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 11:10 AM
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> The ECSA is reviewing the ratings of a number of boats at their next meeting on January 22, 2013. I'm told that this is a fairly routine review of boats/classes that have done well in the previous season, but the review can sometimes result in an adjustment of up to 3 seconds/mile for the class. I believe that the Frers 33 is fairly rated in Eastern Long Island Sound at 108/129 and plan to go to the meeting to present evidence to support this and insure we don't get an unwarranted negative rating adjustment.
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> The Frers 33 has done well in the results, but if you look at the boats in our division who raced more than 2 or more races in 2011, (21 boats) the Frers 33s are well distributed across the group 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 21. I think this shows mainly that there are far more Frers 33s racing and doing more races than any other boat type in Div 1. The same story holds for the ECSA overall results at 2, 18, 41, 47, 75, 108, 116. In overall standings boats in the class average 58th among 116 boats racing 2 or more races, exactly in the 50th percentile. This compares with other competitive boats with better averages such as the J-27 with an average finish 52nd, the Tripp 36 average finish 55th, the Evelyn 32-2 with and average finish of 57th.
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> I'm also working on a graph of two years of races in Pachyderm vs. the two previous two years in our J-29 Wasabi using the recorded results for the Branford summer series. I think this should be an objective way of separating out all other factors to compare the ratings of the the J-29 Frac vs the Frers 33. The J-29 fractional rating is not under review. At first look, I think I can show that our performance against others in nearly 30 races in each boat remained unchanged, suggesting the ratings were commensurate. (In fact, if anything the Frers 33 rating is a little tougher)
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> I'd like to collect other supporting data such as IRC ratings, PHRF ratings in other regions and any other ideas for presenting our case from the fleet.
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> Edgar Smith
> Pachyderm
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I race at 114 in Montreal, with a keel shortened to 5'8" and a bulb making an additional 180 lb over the original keel weight. The St Lawrence Valley Yacht Racing Assoc. said they were giving me 3 sec. a mile over the 111 they would have assigned unmodified.<br><br>William Thompson<div>Sent from my iPad</div></div><div><br>On 2012-11-20, at 5:15 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT <<a href="mailto:fxalbert@prodigy.net">fxalbert@prodigy.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;"><div>Edgar,</div>
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<div>PHRF of the Chesapeake rates the Frers 33 at 114 which is a difficult rating to sail to. I do okay but we sail the heck out of that boat and the crew work is impeccable.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Frank Albert</div>
<div>RELENTLESS<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 11/20/12, Edgar Smith <i><<a href="mailto:edgar@geomatrixproductions.com">edgar@geomatrixproductions.com</a>></i></b> wrote:<br></div>
<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><br>From: Edgar Smith <<a href="mailto:edgar@geomatrixproductions.com">edgar@geomatrixproductions.com</a>><br>Subject: [<span>frers</span>-list]ECSA class rating<br>To: <a href="mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 11:10 AM<br><br>
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<div>The ECSA is reviewing the ratings of a number of boats at their next meeting on January 22, 2013. I'm told that this is a fairly routine review of boats/classes that have done well in the previous season, but the review can sometimes result in an adjustment of up to 3 seconds/mile for the class. I believe that the Frers 33 is fairly rated in Eastern Long Island Sound at 108/129 and plan to go to the meeting to present evidence to support this and insure we don't get an unwarranted negative rating adjustment.
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<div>The Frers 33 has done well in the results, but if you look at the boats in our division who raced more than 2 or more races in 2011, (21 boats) the Frers 33s are well distributed across the group 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 21. I think this shows mainly that there are far more Frers 33s racing and doing more races than any other boat type in Div 1. The same story holds for the ECSA overall results at 2, 18, 41, 47, 75, 108, 116. In overall standings boats in the class average 58th among 116 boats racing 2 or more races, exactly in the 50th percentile. This compares with other competitive boats with better averages such as the J-27 with an average finish 52nd, the Tripp 36 average finish 55th, the Evelyn 32-2 with and average finish of 57th. </div>
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<div>I'm also working on a graph of two years of races in Pachyderm vs. the two previous two years in our J-29 Wasabi using the recorded results for the Branford summer series. I think this should be an objective way of separating out all other factors to compare the ratings of the the J-29 Frac vs the Frers 33. The J-29 fractional rating is not under review. At first look, I think I can show that our performance against others in nearly 30 races in each boat remained unchanged, suggesting the ratings were commensurate. (In fact, if anything the Frers 33 rating is a little tougher)</div>
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<div>I'd like to collect other supporting data such as IRC ratings, PHRF ratings in other regions and any other ideas for presenting our case from the fleet. </div>
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