[frers-list]ECSA class rating
Scott Marino
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:19:03 -0800 (PST)
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Don't sail here, it's worse...=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=
=0AFrom: FRANCIS ALBERT <fxalbert@prodigy.net>=0ATo: frers-list@lists.frers=
33.com =0ASent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 5:15 PM=0ASubject: Re: [frers-li=
st]ECSA class rating=0A=0AEdgar,=0A=0APHRF of the Chesapeake rates the Frer=
s 33 at 114 which is a difficult rating to sail to.=A0 I do okay but we sai=
l the=A0heck out of that boat and the crew work is impeccable.=0A=A0 =0A=0A=
Thanks,=0AFrank Albert=0ARELENTLESS--- On Tue, 11/20/12, Edgar Smith <edgar=
@geomatrixproductions.com> wrote:=0A=0A>From: Edgar Smith <edgar@geomatrixp=
roductions.com>=0A>Subject: [frers-list]ECSA class rating=0A>To: frers-list=
@lists.frers33.com=0A>Date: Tuesday, November 20, 2012, 11:10 AM=0A>=0A>=0A=
>The ECSA is reviewing the ratings of a number of boats at their next meeti=
ng on January 22, 2013. I'm told that this is a fairly routine review of bo=
ats/classes that have done well in the previous season, but the review can =
sometimes result in an adjustment of up to 3 seconds/mile for the class.=A0=
I believe that the Frers 33 is fairly rated in Eastern Long Island Sound at=
108/129 and=A0plan to go to the meeting to present evidence to support thi=
s and insure we don't get an unwarranted negative rating adjustment.=A0 =0A=
>The Frers 33 has done well in the results, but if you look at the boats in=
our division who raced more than 2 or more races in 2011, (21 boats) the F=
rers 33s are well distributed across the group 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 21.=A0I thin=
k this shows mainly that there are far more Frers 33s racing and doing more=
races than any other boat type in Div 1. The same story holds for the ECSA=
overall results at 2, 18, 41, 47, 75, 108, 116. In overall standings boats=
in the class average 58th among 116 boats racing 2 or more races, exactly =
in the 50th percentile. This compares with other competitive boats with bet=
ter averages such as the=A0J-27 with an average finish 52nd,=A0the Tripp 36=
average finish 55th,=A0the Evelyn 32-2 with and average finish of 57th.=A0=
=0A>I'm also working on a graph of two years of races in Pachyderm vs. the =
two previous two years in our J-29 Wasabi using the recorded results for th=
e Branford summer series. I think this should be an objective way of separa=
ting out all other factors to compare the ratings of the the J-29 Frac vs t=
he Frers 33. The J-29 fractional rating is not under review. At first look,=
I think I can show that our performance against others in nearly 30 races =
in each boat remained unchanged, suggesting the ratings were commensurate. =
=A0(In fact, if anything the Frers 33 rating is a little tougher)=0A>I'd li=
ke to collect other supporting data such as IRC ratings, PHRF ratings in ot=
her regions and any other ideas for presenting our case from the fleet.=A0=
=0A>Edgar Smith=0A>Pachyderm
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<DIV>Edgar,</DIV>
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<DIV>PHRF of the Chesapeake rates the Frers 33 at 114 which is a difficult =
rating to sail to. I do okay but we sail the heck out of that bo=
at and the crew work is impeccable.</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks,</DIV>
<DIV>Frank Albert</DIV>
<DIV>RELENTLESS<WBR><WBR>--- On <B>Tue, 11/20/12, Edgar Smith <I><edgar@=
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<DIV>The ECSA is reviewing the ratings of a number of boats at their next m=
eeting on January 22, 2013. I'm told that this is a fairly routine review o=
f boats/classes that have done well in the previous season, but the review =
can sometimes result in an adjustment of up to 3 seconds/mile for the class=
. I believe that the Frers 33 is fairly rated in Eastern Long Island S=
ound at 108/129 and plan to go to the meeting to present evidence to s=
upport this and insure we don't get an unwarranted negative rating adjustme=
nt. =20
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<DIV>The Frers 33 has done well in the results, but if you look at the boat=
s in our division who raced more than 2 or more races in 2011, (21 boats) t=
he Frers 33s are well distributed across the group 1, 2, 6, 9, 13, 21. =
;I think this shows mainly that there are far more Frers 33s racing and doi=
ng more races than any other boat type in Div 1. The same story holds for t=
he ECSA overall results at 2, 18, 41, 47, 75, 108, 116. In overall standing=
s boats in the class average 58th among 116 boats racing 2 or more races, e=
xactly in the 50th percentile. This compares with other competitive boats w=
ith better averages such as the J-27 with an average finish 52nd, =
;the Tripp 36 average finish 55th, the Evelyn 32-2 with and average fi=
nish of 57th. </DIV>
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<DIV><WBR></DIV>
<DIV>I'm also working on a graph of two years of races in Pachyderm vs. the=
two previous two years in our J-29 Wasabi using the recorded results for t=
he Branford summer series. I think this should be an objective way of separ=
ating out all other factors to compare the ratings of the the J-29 Frac vs =
the Frers 33. The J-29 fractional rating is not under review. At first look=
, I think I can show that our performance against others in nearly 30 races=
in each boat remained unchanged, suggesting the ratings were commensurate.=
(In fact, if anything the Frers 33 rating is a little tougher)</DIV>
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<DIV>I'd like to collect other supporting data such as IRC ratings, PHRF ra=
tings in other regions and any other ideas for presenting our case from the=
fleet. </DIV>
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<DIV>Edgar Smith</DIV>
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