[frers-list]stay with rod rigging or switch to wire ?
Courtney Thomas
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Albert,
Thanks again for one of your generous replies.
I think maybe I'll just store the rod and replace it with wire for now.
Do you know anyone who has replaced the
rod with wire, that might be helpful with advice ? My boat is the only
one, that I know, having the wing keel
which I wanted, so, anyone wanting to race would possibly not be
interested in my boat anyway, so resale is not
a significant concern and if it were resold the purchaser could take the
rod and reinstall it. By the way is there
any data concerning the wing keel's performance vis-a-vis the standard fin ?
Glad to hear the weld went fine.
I'm scratching Kevlar.
If you happen to later determine your mast paint used, please let me know.
Cordially,
Courtney
On 10/6/2012 3:05 PM, FRANCIS ALBERT wrote:
> Courtney,
> If you're not going to race the boat then wire is less expensive.
> However, since the standard on a Frers 33 was and is rod then the boat
> would loose some resale value with wire. IF the Rod has been just
> sitting not on the boat for five years then that's five years of extra
> life. You could take the rod to a rigger and have him inspect it for
> elongation. If there is none you could replace the compressed
> end piece (that's where rod mostly fails just before that compression)
> and use that rod. They will cut off a few inches of rod and do a cold
> press at the end of end effectively giving you a new end piece.
> If the welder says he can fix it it's likely it will be fine. My
> first boat had a diagonal slice in the bottom of the mast about 5
> inches long. Hit by a lawn mower blade while being stored on the
> ground at a house. The slightest pull on the mast would cause the
> slice to start to open. I had it welded and the weld was so good you
> couldn't even tell where it was. The boat sailed fine after that for
> two years, no problems.
> I would not go with Kevlar. It is way too much money. Even I don't
> have Kevlar standing rigging and I have just about the most expensive
> stuff you can put on the boat.
> Can't help you with the mast paint. I painted my mast about 5 years
> ago with an interlux one part polyurethane but to be honest I can't
> recall. I wish I could remember as it has held up like steel. Just
> go on line and look at the interlux paints you should be able to find
> one that will meet your needs.
> Good luck
> Frank Albert
> Relentless 41621
>
> --- On *Sat, 10/6/12, Courtney Thomas
> /<courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: [frers-list]stay with rod rigging or switch to wire ?
> To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
> Date: Saturday, October 6, 2012, 2:04 PM
>
> Do group members recommend any particular service to 'check out'
> their rod rigging ? I presently have
> rod but am unaware of it's history, though I'm told very little
> use but now over 5 years old. The mast's
> existence basically has been in storage on saw horses.
>
> The starboard upper spreader tip has been damaged but I'm told by
> a local welder that he can 'fix it'.
> Thoughts ?
>
> What's the consensus regarding wire, rod or kevlar ?
>
> I should add that racing is not my objective but rather extensive
> coastal cruising.
>
> What mast paint has been durable and cost competitive ?
>
> Any other suggestions and recommendations for a refurb would be
> appreciated,
>
> C.Thomas
> ccthomas01@yahoo.com
> <http://us.mc829.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ccthomas01@yahoo.com>
>
>
>
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Albert,<br>
<br>
Thanks again for one of your generous replies.<br>
<br>
I think maybe I'll just store the rod and replace it with wire for
now. Do you know anyone who has replaced the<br>
rod with wire, that might be helpful with advice ? My boat is the
only one, that I know, having the wing keel <br>
which I wanted, so, anyone wanting to race would possibly not be
interested in my boat anyway, so resale is not<br>
a significant concern and if it were resold the purchaser could take
the rod and reinstall it. By the way is there <br>
any data concerning the wing keel's performance vis-a-vis the
standard fin ?<br>
<br>
Glad to hear the weld went fine.<br>
<br>
I'm scratching Kevlar.<br>
<br>
If you happen to later determine your mast paint used, please let me
know.<br>
<br>
Cordially,<br>
<br>
Courtney<br>
<br>
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<div>Courtney,</div>
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<div>If you're not going to race the boat then wire is
less expensive. However, since the standard on a Frers
33 was and is rod then the boat would loose some resale
value with wire. IF the Rod has been just sitting not
on the boat for five years then that's five years of
extra life. You could take the rod to a rigger and have
him inspect it for elongation. If there is none
you could replace the compressed end piece (that's where
rod mostly fails just before that compression) and use
that rod. They will cut off a few inches of rod and do
a cold press at the end of end effectively giving you a
new end piece.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>If the welder says he can fix it it's likely it will
be fine. My first boat had a diagonal slice in the
bottom of the mast about 5 inches long. Hit by a lawn
mower blade while being stored on the ground at a
house. The slightest pull on the mast would cause the
slice to start to open. I had it welded and the
weld was so good you couldn't even tell where it was.
The boat sailed fine after that for two years, no
problems. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I would not go with Kevlar. It is way too much
money. Even I don't have Kevlar standing rigging and I
have just about the most expensive stuff you can put on
the boat.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Can't help you with the mast paint. I painted my
mast about 5 years ago with an interlux one part
polyurethane but to be honest I can't recall. I wish I
could remember as it has held up like steel. Just go on
line and look at the interlux paints you should be able
to find one that will meet your needs.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Good luck</div>
<div>Frank Albert</div>
<div>Relentless 41621<br>
<br>
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Subject: [<span><span><span>frers</span></span></span>-list]stay
with rod rigging or switch to wire ?<br>
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Date: Saturday, October 6, 2012, 2:04 PM<br>
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<div class="plainMail">Do group members recommend any
particular service to 'check out' their rod rigging ?
I presently have<br>
rod but am unaware of it's history, though I'm told
very little use but now over 5 years old. The mast's<br>
existence basically has been in storage on saw horses.<br>
<br>
The starboard upper spreader tip has been damaged but
I'm told by a local welder that he can 'fix it'.<br>
Thoughts ?<br>
<br>
What's the consensus regarding wire, rod or kevlar ?<br>
<br>
I should add that racing is not my objective but
rather extensive coastal cruising.<br>
<br>
What mast paint has been durable and cost competitive
?<br>
<br>
Any other suggestions and recommendations for a refurb
would be appreciated,<br>
<br>
C.Thomas<br>
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