[frers-list]rudder-steering setup

[Keith Bradley]

Courtney,
I just Igot done working on my rudder. The rudder shaft was suffering 
form electrolysis and water got into the rudder and it started to  de 
laminate.  I exposed the damage on the rudder shaft and had it welded. 
Then I cut the de laminated area out and found black slime that used to 
be foam.  then I ground all the bad foam out.  Any cracks I found in the 
foam I opened up and filled with west system.  Then I filled the voids 
with 16 oz urithan foam from   US Composites.  Then roughed out the 
shape using templets I made from the other side of the rudder.  After 
that I vacumbaged the glass and west system to seal it up.  Then i did a 
final fairing witch was not as good as I hoped for.

To get the rudder out take the steering quadrant off the shaft. Then 
lift up on the rudder and pull the bolt that holds it in place. Make 
shore you have enough clearance to get the rudder out you may have to 
tip the boat up to clear the shaft or park it over a ditch.  Be very 
careful if you are tipping the boat on jack stands.

I Will email you later.

Keith Bradley
Avalon

  On 10/7/2012 12:45 PM, ARTHUR KELLEY wrote:
> Courtney,
>
> My boat (#55) was shipped with a wheel, but converted at some point to 
> a tiller.  I converted back to a wheel, but instead used an Edson CDi 
> system, with no cables, etc.  Can't help you with pictures there.  I 
> may still have some p[arts around although I sold the pedestal 
> assembly.  I think I may still have a one year old radial (mounts on 
> the rudder post) if you need parts.  If you decide instead to switch 
> to a CDi system, I have a spare tiller arm that Edson made a small 
> (correctbale) mistake on.
>
> Not knowing the condition of everything, if the rudder bearings 
> (actually Teflon sleeve bearings or bushings) are missing or badly 
> worn check out the two articles in the FAQ pages of the web site.
>
> I have never seen the inside of the rudder so can't speak to the 
> construction.  Mine was 117 poundes when I removed it so if yours is 
> lighter let me know, mine might be wet!  If there are cracks in the 
> top, my opinion (not a professional here) is to open the cracks a 
> little (perhaps a Dremel tool with a small, ball shaped grinder tip) 
> and with the rudder standing vertially, work epoxy into the cracks.  I 
> would rough sand the entire rudder top and spread epxoy across the 
> entire top so you don't end up with little plugs cracking out.  
> Perhaps others have better ideas.
>
> There is a good article here about rebuilding a rudder. 
> http://www.westsystem.com/ss/rebuilding-a-rudder/  I assume the Freres 
> 33 rudder is of similar construction.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:30 AM, Courtney Thomas wrote:
>
>> Ahoy !
>>
>> Does anyone have pictures and/or a descriptive narrative of the 
>> proper installation of the rudder and steering setup. Pictures and 
>> parts description of the setup below the cockpit of the rudder stock, 
>> quadrant, etc... are especially needed now.
>>
>> I previously requested information regarding proper disposition of 
>> cracks around the entry point of the stock into the rudder but have 
>> received nothing.
>>
>> Is the rudder for the last boats manufactured actually made of 
>> nothing but polyglass and foam ? If no, what and how then, please ?
>>
>> I'm starting to redeploy #54 which was 'dismantled' and idle for 
>> years and now needing good info to put 'er back together, not only 
>> the rudder-steering setup but the entire boat. Even the keel was 
>> removed.
>>
>> All advice and suggestions are appreciated, especially including 
>> pictures and parts sources.
>>
>> Cordially,
>> C.Thomas
>> ccthomas01@yahoo.com
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