[frers-list]My unique keel on hull #54

[Courtney Thomas]

On 12/12/2013 7:13 AM, Arthur Kelley wrote:
> Courtney,
>
> Any photos?  I think it would be marvelous to document the differences. Perhaps an all-inclusive shot showing rudder and keel then close-ups of each.
>
> I haven't done all the math but if your rudder is 55" and your draft is 4'11" (59") I think the rudder is "just right". You don't want a rudder deeper than your keel because bad things may happen in a grounding.
>
> Art
>
>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>
>> First, thanks to all who've responded to my attempts at sorting out what I've got here in hull #54   :-)
>>
>> Rudder Concerns
>> ______________________________________________________________________________________________
>> #54's RUDDER's length is 55" which apparently is 5" less than the the other boats rudders
>> which have been included in this ongoing discussion.
>>
>> Anyone know if this correlates with the following description of #54's keel and it's 16" shortened length, or is an
>> improper and subsequent-to-construction-launch alteration ?
>>
>> Also, would not it have been appropriate to in fact increase the 4000# ballast on the stock boat to compensate for
>> reduced draft and lever arm on #54 thus hopefully restoring at least some lost stability and ease of motion ?
>>
>> Finally, the vertical-midpoint of the rudder's-forward-entry-width is approximately 2", which I expected to have a finer entry. Comment  ? _______________________________________________________________________________________________
>> End of Rudder Concerns
>>
>> The boat's current storage location is not near my house but I took yesterday to travel to
>> the yard to make measurements, which apparently vary from the stock keel as follows:
>>
>> Keel Concerns
>> _______________________________________________________________________________________________
>> Foot            16" wide at it's widest and tapers to almost a point aft but has a less fine entry for'd, and IS apparently a          winged keel as opposed to my former posts. I did not measure it's thickness but it is multiplel inches,
>>                      thereby compensating for the reduced lever arm.
>>
>>                     At least part of my confusion regarding the keel is that the former owner made misstatements
>>                     about #54's history, though I assume in ignorance rather than intent.
>>                     Thanks to all in helping sort this out  as I'm in a Frers doldrum down here in Savannah.
>>
>> Draft            I only approximated it to about 5' which does correspond to the published figure of 4' 11" for the
>>                      winged keel version of a Frers33. Does anyone know if there was another winged keel 33' built ?
>>
>> Foot Length  - approximately 5', yes 5', again compensating for the reduced draft and ballast from the stock keel,
>>                           I assume.
>>
>> At this point I doubt the keel has actually been altered from what Carroll Marine shipped, but
>> am open to refutation, and if that is the case, would welcome it.
>> _______________________________________________________________________________________________
>> End of Keel Concerns
>>
>>
>> Finally,  does anyone know anything about the history of this boat, #54 ?
>>
>> Most appreciatively,
>>
>> Courtney
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Art,

Thanks for your reply.

I'm leavin' town today for a bit but'll plan on posting  pictures that 
hopefully meet your request when I return.

I must say, I'm much relieved at the apparent outcome of my queries with 
the Frers33 group and offer
a hearty thanks to all who've helped.

I deliberately wanted the shallow draft wing keeled model and thought 
that was what I was buying but did not assume I'd be marooned as an only 
owner. I do understand the appeal for racers of the standard keel of course
but am hoping that my boat's speed and shallow draft will enhance safety 
in island hopping down through the Caribbean and coastal cruising 
S.America; my goal, which is a goodly way off given the boat's condition 
and my refit plans  :-)

Cordially,

Courtney