[frers-list]My unique keel on hull #54

Bob Connell frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:34:56 -0500


Courtney, is the keel installed on the boat now or is it off? If it is off c=
an the boatyard weigh the keel or put it on a trailer and take it to a scale=
.Moving companies or a truck stop will have scale.=20

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On Dec 12, 2013, at 7:13 AM, Arthur Kelley <akelley@optonline.net> wrote:

> Courtney,
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> Any photos?  I think it would be marvelous to document the differences. Pe=
rhaps an all-inclusive shot showing rudder and keel then close-ups of each.=20=

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> I haven't done all the math but if your rudder is 55" and your draft is 4'=
11" (59") I think the rudder is "just right". You don't want a rudder deeper=
 than your keel because bad things may happen in a grounding.=20
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> Art
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>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 12:58 PM, Courtney Thomas <courtneycthomas@bellsouth.=
net> wrote:
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>> First, thanks to all who've responded to my attempts at sorting out what I=
've got here in hull #54   :-)
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>> Rudder Concerns
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>> #54's RUDDER's length is 55" which apparently is 5" less than the the oth=
er boats rudders
>> which have been included in this ongoing discussion.
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>> Anyone know if this correlates with the following description of #54's ke=
el and it's 16" shortened length, or is an
>> improper and subsequent-to-construction-launch alteration ?
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>> Also, would not it have been appropriate to in fact increase the 4000# ba=
llast on the stock boat to compensate for
>> reduced draft and lever arm on #54 thus hopefully restoring at least some=
 lost stability and ease of motion ?
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>> Finally, the vertical-midpoint of the rudder's-forward-entry-width is app=
roximately 2", which I expected to have a finer entry. Comment  ? __________=
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>> End of Rudder Concerns
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>> The boat's current storage location is not near my house but I took yeste=
rday to travel to
>> the yard to make measurements, which apparently vary from the stock keel a=
s follows:
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>> Keel Concerns
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>> Foot            16" wide at it's widest and tapers to almost a point aft b=
ut has a less fine entry for'd, and IS apparently a          winged keel as o=
pposed to my former posts. I did not measure it's thickness but it is multip=
lel inches,
>>                    thereby compensating for the reduced lever arm.
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>>                   At least part of my confusion regarding the keel is tha=
t the former owner made misstatements
>>                   about #54's history, though I assume in ignorance rathe=
r than intent.
>>                   Thanks to all in helping sort this out  as I'm in a Fre=
rs doldrum down here in Savannah.
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>> Draft            I only approximated it to about 5' which does correspond=
 to the published figure of 4' 11" for the
>>                    winged keel version of a Frers33. Does anyone know if t=
here was another winged keel 33' built ?
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>> Foot Length  - approximately 5', yes 5', again compensating for the reduc=
ed draft and ballast from the stock keel,
>>                         I assume.
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>> At this point I doubt the keel has actually been altered from what Carrol=
l Marine shipped, but
>> am open to refutation, and if that is the case, would welcome it.
>> _________________________________________________________________________=
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>> End of Keel Concerns
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>> Finally,  does anyone know anything about the history of this boat, #54 ?=

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>> Most appreciatively,
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>> Courtney
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