[frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #623 - 1 msg
Robert Farnum
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Michael,
I like the idea of Maffioli Swiftcord for the main sheet system. Any
recommendations as to the size for each line?
Bob
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[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] On Behalf Of Michael Argyelan
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:45 PM
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Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #623 - 1 msg
I do use the topper as supplied. I use spectra/dyneema lines for that too.
I thought about using the center line hal as the topper but decided I like
having it used for what it's supposed to be there for.
As far as shackles are concerned, every hal/topper shackle we have on
Mystify is a Tylaska T5 (5,000lb breaking strength). A couple of nice
points about these are that they can be opened under load with a fid (and a
lot of gusto) and nothing tends to get caught on them. I think snap
shackles are just begging to get caught on something and open at the wrong
time (not to mention they typically don't handle high loads without getting
really big in size). I make my own soft shackles out of dyneema (NER
Endura) and use those on the kite sheets. I use the T5's on the guys and
then I really like the low load non swiveling Equiplite shackles for the jib
sheets.
I also highly, highly recommend checking out Yale PhD. racing cordage - so
light - so strong. I use Maffioli Swiftcord for my gross and fine tune on
the main sheet system. For light air sheets I have Marlow Excel Pro (like
5mm) for the really light stuff. For the light stuff on the kite we go to
sheets only as I have the last 4' of my kite sheets stripped and use the
soft shackles so I don't really need to carry a 2nd pair of light sheets.
Not sure what I've left out....
Cheers,
Michael
Thanks Michael,
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That's a great offer and an excellent outline for a Frers 33 racing =
package halyard plan.=20
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Do you use the topping lift as originally supplied with the boat? If so, =
any recommendations for that? We have removed ours and use the =
centerline halyard as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard =
in a pinch if need be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska =
shackles which can be opened and closed with one hand. The foredeck =
appreciates that.
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Dave
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Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM
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Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 msgs
=20
Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. I'm new to the Frers 33 =
but I own a charter/lesson company and I also run the Ship's Store at =
Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running rigging, =
splicing, shackles, etc. I'm excited about this conversation!
=20
On the business end of things, any orders for rigging placed with me =
will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West M*&%$&, =
or otherwise.
=20
On the fun side, I have some cool recommendations if you're interested =
in a full set of halyards. For the debate on whether to strip or not to =
strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as it takes =
the most loads (for the most part) and keep completely covered. The jib =
hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I =
keep the cover at the shackle end (I splice everything, no knots) for =
about 2 feet that way the cover is there for chafe whilst the kite is =
up. I then strip "x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of =
the hal is in the mast when fully hoisted. Of course, less cover =3D =
less weight and when aloft, can make a big difference.=20
=20
I definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, fyi. I will also strip =
out the tail of the halyard as it takes no load (that's pretty picky and =
me just being a big splice nerd). If you're worried about having exposed =
core to the sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my halyards and =
use some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the =
spin hals up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct =
sunlight and will last longer.
=20
In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of Vectran cores for main =
and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for spin hals. The =
little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin hals. In terms of =
what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. Samson Warpspeed is =
great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly whereas Yale =
holds up longer. Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and Maxibraid Plus =
is the Spectra core offering from them. Of course there are vectran or =
spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufacturer =
(think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all vectran).=20
=20
Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one morning! My rig is =
unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone has questions. You =
can email me at mma@crowleys.comor michael@gosailingchicago.com. Here =
is a link to what we have online for cordage (we may have more in the =
physical store - including different color offerings, etc) =
http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Ca=
<http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Ca=t
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tegories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D1
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Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this stuff just to help =
out - not a sales pitch. I just love this stuff.
=20
Cheers,
=20
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Michael
s.v. Mystify
Chicago, IL
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From: Rod Stright <StrightR@eastlink.ca>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards
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Hi Guys,
Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. =
There
are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch =
at
the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. =
I
know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
still
believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that =
you
can end for end.
Regards
Rod
Equinox
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From: "Stephen, Robert" <rstephen@weberstephen.com>
To: "frers-list@lists.frers33.com" <frers-list@lists.frers33.com>
Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000
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Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for =
halyards a=3D
nd sheets. They sometimes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers =
36 a=3D
nd have bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.
Nice people and nicer work
Bob Stephen
From: =
frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre=3D
rs33.com] On Behalf Of Rod Stright
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards
Hi Guys,
Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. =
There=3D
are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch =
at=3D
the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. =
I=3D
know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
still=3D
believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that =
you=3D
can end for end.
Regards
Rod
Equinox
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someti=3D
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mai=3D
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:#1F497D">Nice people and =
nicer =3D
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<p class=3D3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D3D"color:#1F497D">Bob =
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rod Stright<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards</span></p>
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style=3D3D"font-family:"Aria=3D
l","sans-serif"; color:#0000CC">Planning on replacing =
some h=3D
alyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets. There are a lot of =
products =3D
out there and of course I want the lowest stretch at the lowest
price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and why. =
I =3D
know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
still =3D
believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that =
you =3D
can end for end.</span></p>
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From: Rod Stright <StrightR@eastlink.ca>
To: frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:15:43 -0300
Subject: [frers-list]Sheets and Halyards
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boat? If so, any recommendations for that? We have removed ours and use =
the
centerline halyard as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard =
in a
pinch if need be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska =
shackles which
can be opened and closed with one hand. The foredeck appreciates =
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Behalf Of </b>Michael Argyelan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 19, 2013 9:01 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. =
I'm new
to the Frers 33 but I own a charter/lesson company and I also run the =
Ship's
Store at Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running =
rigging,
splicing, shackles, etc. I'm excited about this =
conversation!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On the business end of things, any orders for =
rigging placed
with me will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West
M*&%$&, or otherwise.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On the fun side, I have some cool recommendations =
if you're
interested in a full set of halyards. For the debate on whether to =
strip
or not to strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as =
it
takes the most loads (for the most part) and keep completely covered. =
The jib
hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I =
keep
the cover at the shackle end (I splice everything, no knots) for about 2 =
feet
that way the cover is there for chafe whilst the kite is up. I =
then strip
"x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of the hal is =
in the
mast when fully hoisted. Of course, less cover =3D less weight and =
when
aloft, can make a big difference. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>I definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, =
fyi. I
will also strip out the tail of the halyard as it takes no load (that's =
pretty
picky and me just being a big splice nerd). If you're worried about =
having
exposed core to the sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my =
halyards and
use some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the =
spin hals
up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct sunlight =
and will
last longer.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>In terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of =
Vectran
cores for main and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for =
spin
hals. The little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin =
hals. In
terms of what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. Samson
Warpspeed is great but I feel that the covers burn off/fray to quickly =
whereas
Yale holds up longer. Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and =
Maxibraid
Plus is the Spectra core offering from them. Of course there are =
vectran
or spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every manufacturer =
(think
NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - all =
vectran). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one =
morning!
My rig is unstepped and I can get measurements, fyi if anyone =
has
questions. You can email me at <a =
href=3D"mailto:mma@crowleys.com">mma@crowleys.com</a>
or <a =
href=3D"mailto:michael@gosailingchicago.com">michael@gosailingchicago.com=
</a>.
Here is a link to what we have online for cordage (we may have =
more in
the physical store - including different color offerings, etc) <a
href=3D"http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Co=
<http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Co=rdage/Cat
egories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D1>
rdage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D1">http://store.crowleys.com/se=
<http://store.crowleys.com/se=rvlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Cat
egories?RiggingLinesandCord=age=3D1>
rvlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCord=
age=3D1</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this =
stuff
just to help out - not a sales pitch. I just love this =
stuff.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Michael<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><i>s.v. Mystify</i><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal>Chicago, IL<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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Today's Topics:<br>
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1. Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright)<br>
2. RE: Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Stephen, Robert)<br>
3. Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright)<br>
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From: Rod Stright <<a =
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Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300<br>
Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards<br>
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Hi Guys,<br>
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<br>
Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets.
There<br>
are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch =
at<br>
the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are using and =
why.
I<br>
know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
still<br>
believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) that =
you<br>
can end for end.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
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Rod<br>
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Equinox<br>
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Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards<br>
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000<br>
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Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for =
halyards a=3D<br>
nd sheets. They sometimes have deals on certain orders. I have a frers =
36 a=3D<br>
nd have bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.<br>
Nice people and nicer work<br>
Bob Stephen<br>
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Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards<br>
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Hi Guys,<br>
<br>
Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets.
There=3D<br>
are a lot of products out there and of course I want the lowest =
stretch
at=3D<br>
the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they are =
using and
why. I=3D<br>
know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but =
I
still=3D<br>
believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer core) =
that
you=3D<br>
can end for end.<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Rod<br>
Equinox<br>
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<br>
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replacing some h=3D<br>
alyards (main and jib) and genoa sheets.&nbsp; There are a lot of =
products
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out there and of course I want the lowest stretch at the lowest<br>
price.&nbsp; Anyone have any info on what they are using and
why.&nbsp; I =3D<br>
know some racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I like the idea of Maffioli Swiftcord for the main sheet system. Any =
recommendations as to the size for each line?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com =
[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Argyelan<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 19, 2013 2:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
frers-list@lists.frers33.com<br><b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Re: =
frers-list digest, Vol 1 #623 - 1 msg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I do use the =
topper as supplied. I use spectra/dyneema lines for that too. =
I thought about using the center line hal as the topper but =
decided I like having it used for what it's supposed to be there for. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>As far as shackles are concerned, every hal/topper =
shackle we have on Mystify is a Tylaska T5 (5,000lb breaking strength). =
A couple of nice points about these are that they can be opened =
under load with a fid (and a lot of gusto) and nothing tends to get =
caught on them. I think snap shackles are just begging to get =
caught on something and open at the wrong time (not to mention they =
typically don't handle high loads without getting really big in size). =
I make my own soft shackles out of dyneema (NER Endura) and use =
those on the kite sheets. I use the T5's on the guys and then I =
really like the low load non swiveling Equiplite shackles for the jib =
sheets.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
also highly, highly recommend checking out Yale PhD. racing cordage - so =
light - so strong. I use Maffioli Swiftcord for my gross and fine =
tune on the main sheet system. For light air sheets I have Marlow =
Excel Pro (like 5mm) for the really light stuff. For the light =
stuff on the kite we go to sheets only as I have the last 4' of my kite =
sheets stripped and use the soft shackles so I don't really need to =
carry a 2nd pair of light sheets. Not sure what I've left =
out....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Michael<o:p></o:p></p><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br>Thanks Michael,<br>=3D20<br>That's a great offer =
and an excellent outline for a Frers 33 racing =3D<br>package halyard =
plan.=3D20<br>=3D20<br>Do you use the topping lift as originally =
supplied with the boat? If so, =3D<br>any recommendations for that? We =
have removed ours and use the =3D<br>centerline halyard as a topping =
lift. It can serve as an extra halyard =3D<br>in a pinch if need be. =
Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska =3D<br>shackles which can =
be opened and closed with one hand. The foredeck =3D<br>appreciates =
that.<br>=3D20<br>Regards,<br>=3D20<br>Dave<br>Wolverine<br>=3D20<br>Davi=
d Nauber<br>President<br>Class=3DE9<br><br>C: 860-301-7011 | <a =
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Ltd.=3D20<br>=3D20<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:From%3Afrers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">From:frers-list=
-admin@lists.frers33.com</a> =3D<br>[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists=
.frers33.com</a>] On Behalf Of Michael =3D<br>Argyelan<br>Sent: Tuesday, =
March 19, 2013 9:01 AM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
</a><br>Subject: [frers-list]Re: frers-list digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 =
msgs<br>=3D20<br>Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an expert. =
I'm new to the Frers 33 =3D<br>but I own a charter/lesson company =
and I also run the Ship's Store at =3D<br>Crowley's Yacht Yard in =
Chicago and am an expert in running rigging, =3D<br>splicing, shackles, =
etc. I'm excited about this conversation!<br>=3D20<br>On the =
business end of things, any orders for rigging placed with me =
=3D<br>will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, West =
M*&%$&, =3D<br>or otherwise.<br>=3D20<br>On the fun side, I have =
some cool recommendations if you're interested =3D<br>in a full set of =
halyards. For the debate on whether to strip or not to =
=3D<br>strip, I go with a mixed bag. My main hal I beef up to 3/8 as it =
takes =3D<br>the most loads (for the most part) and keep completely =
covered. The jib =3D<br>hal I keep covered as well but still to the 5/16 =
size. For spin hals, I =3D<br>keep the cover at the shackle end (I =
splice everything, no knots) for =3D<br>about 2 feet that way the cover =
is there for chafe whilst the kite is =3D<br>up. I then strip =
"x" amount of cover so that the non covered part of =3D<br>the =
hal is in the mast when fully hoisted. Of course, less cover =3D3D =
=3D<br>less weight and when aloft, can make a big =
difference.=3D20<br>=3D20<br>I definitely add stopper balls to my spin =
hals, fyi. I will also strip =3D<br>out the tail of the halyard as =
it takes no load (that's pretty picky and =3D<br>me just being a big =
splice nerd). If you're worried about having exposed =3D<br>core to the =
sun, wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my halyards and =3D<br>use =
some Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the =
=3D<br>spin hals up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to =
direct =3D<br>sunlight and will last longer.<br>=3D20<br>In terms of =
what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of Vectran cores for main =3D<br>and =
jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for spin hals. The =
=3D<br>little extra stretch from spectra is perfect for spin hals. In =
terms of =3D<br>what brand/style, I'm a big fan of Yale Cordage. =
Samson Warpspeed is =3D<br>great but I feel that the covers burn =
off/fray to quickly whereas Yale =3D<br>holds up longer. Yale =
Crystalyne is the Vectran core and Maxibraid Plus =3D<br>is the Spectra =
core offering from them. Of course there are vectran or =
=3D<br>spectra/dyneema cored offerings from just about every =
manufacturer =3D<br>(think NER V100 - on tons of J105's for halyards - =
all vectran).=3D20<br>=3D20<br>Well, I think I've nerded out enough for =
one morning! My rig is =3D<br>unstepped and I can get =
measurements, fyi if anyone has questions. You =3D<br>can =
email me at <a href=3D"mailto:mma@crowleys.comor">mma@crowleys.comor</a> =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael@gosailingchicago.com">michael@gosailingchicago.com=
</a>. Here =3D<br>is a link to what we have online for cordage (we =
may have more in the =3D<br>physical store - including different color =
offerings, etc) =3D<br><a =
href=3D"http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Co=
rdage/Ca=3Dtegories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D3D1" =
target=3D"_blank">http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Li=
nes-and-Cordage/Ca=3D<br>tegories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D3D1</a><br>=3D=
20<br>=3D20<br>Of course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this stuff =
just to help =3D<br>out - not a sales pitch. I just love this =
stuff.<br>=3D20<br>Cheers,<br>=3D20<br>=3D20<br>Michael<br>s.v. =
Mystify<br>Chicago, IL<br>=3D20<br>=3D20<br>On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at =
12:03 AM, <<a =
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33 Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright)<br> 2. RE: Frers 33 =
Sheets and Halyards (Stephen, Robert)<br> 3. Sheets and =
Halyards (Rod Stright)<br><br>-- __--__--<br><br>Message: 1<br>From: Rod =
Stright <<a =
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<a =
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</a><br>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 -0300<br>Subject: =
[frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards<br>Reply-To: <a =
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7bit<br><br>Hi Guys,<br><br><br><br>Planning on replacing some halyards =
(main and jib) and genoa sheets. =3D<br>There<br>are a lot of =
products out there and of course I want the lowest stretch =
=3D<br>at<br>the lowest price. Anyone have any info on what they =
are using and why. =3D<br>I<br>know some racers use the stripped =
down spectra or vectran core but I =3D<br>still<br>believe in the high =
performance core with the jacket (outer core) that =3D<br>you<br>can end =
for =
end.<br><br><br><br>Regards<br><br>Rod<br><br>Equinox<br><br><br><br><br>=
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t;sans-serif";color:#0000C=3D<br>C'=3D3D<br>>Planning on =
replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa =
=3D3D<br>sheets.&nbsp; There are a lot of products out there and of =
course I want =3D<br>=3D3D<br>the lowest stretch at the lowest =
price.&nbsp; Anyone have any info on =3D<br>=3D3D<br>what they are =
using and why.&nbsp; I know some racers use the stripped =
=3D<br>=3D3D<br>down spectra or vectran core but I still believe in the =
high performance =3D<br>=3D3D<br>core with the jacket (outer core) that =
you can end for =
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<br><br><br>-- __--__--<br><br>Message: 2<br>From: "Stephen, =
Robert" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rstephen@weberstephen.com">rstephen@weberstephen.com</a>&g=
t;<br>To: "<a =
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</a>" <<a =
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</a>><br>Subject: RE: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and =
Halyards<br>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 12:50:29 +0000<br>Reply-To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
</a><br><br>--_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B87B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberste=
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quoted-printable<br><br>Annapolis sailing performance (ASP) has lots of =
nice options for =3D<br>halyards a=3D3D<br>nd sheets. They sometimes =
have deals on certain orders. I have a frers =3D<br>36 a=3D3D<br>nd have =
bought all main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.<br>Nice people =
and nicer work<br>Bob Stephen<br><br>From: =3D<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists=
.frers33.com</a>[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fre">frers-list-admin@lists.fre</a>=
=3D3D<br><a href=3D"http://rs33.com" target=3D"_blank">rs33.com</a>] On =
Behalf Of Rod Stright<br>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 AM<br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
</a><br>Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards<br><br>Hi =
Guys,<br><br>Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) and =
genoa sheets. =3D<br>There=3D3D<br> are a lot of products out =
there and of course I want the lowest stretch =
=3D<br>at=3D3D<br> the lowest price. Anyone have any info on =
what they are using and why. =3D<br> I=3D3D<br> know some =
racers use the stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
=3D<br>still=3D3D<br> believe in the high performance core with the =
jacket (outer core) that =3D<br>you=3D3D<br> can end for =
end.<br><br>Regards<br>Rod<br>Equinox<br><br><br><br>____________________=
____________<br><br><br>This email is intended solely for use by its =
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class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D3D3D"color:#1F497D">Annapolis =3D<br>sailing =
perf=3D3D<br>ormance (ASP) has lots of nice options for halyards and =
sheets. They =3D<br>someti=3D3D<br>mes have deals on certain orders. I =
have a frers 36 and have bought all =3D<br>mai=3D3D<br>n, jib and =
spinnaker halyards form them.</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D3D3D"color:#1F497D">Nice people and =3D<br>nicer =
=3D3D<br>work</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D3D3D"color:#1F497D">Bob =
=3D<br>Stephen</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span>&l=
t;/p><br><div><br><div style=3D3D3D"border:none; =
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=3D<br>font-family:&quo=3D3D<br>t;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-ser=
if&quot;">From:</span></b><span =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-=3D3D<br>size:10.0pt; =
font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;&quo=
t;> =3D<br>frers-=3D3D<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:list-admin@lists.frers33.com">list-admin@lists.frers33.com=
</a>[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists=
.frers33.com</a>]<br><b>On Behalf Of </b>Rod =
Stright<br><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 18, 2013 =
7:21 AM<br><br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
</a><br><br><b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Frers 33 =
Sheets and =
Halyards</span></p><br></div><br></div><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA" =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
amp;quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#0000CC">Hi =
Guys,</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA" =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
amp;quot;sans-serif&quot;; =
color:#0000CC">&nbsp;</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA" =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
amp;quot;sans-serif&quot;; color:#0000CC">Planning on =
replacing =3D<br>some h=3D3D<br>alyards (main and jib) and genoa =
sheets.&nbsp; There are a lot of =3D<br>products =3D3D<br>out there =
and of course I want the lowest stretch at the =
lowest<br> price.&nbsp; Anyone have any info on what they are =
using and why.&nbsp; =3D<br>I =3D3D<br>know some racers use the =
stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =3D<br>still =
=3D3D<br>believe in the high performance core with the jacket (outer =
core) that =3D<br>you =3D3D<br>can end for =
end.</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA" =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
amp;quot;sans-serif&quot;; =
color:#0000CC">&nbsp;</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA" =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
amp;quot;sans-serif&quot;; =
color:#0000CC">Regards</span></p><br><p =
class=3D3D3D"MsoNormal"><span =
lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA" =
=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
amp;quot;sans-serif&quot;; =
color:#0000CC">Rod</span></p><br><p =
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=3D<br>style=3D3D3D"font-family:&quot;Aria=3D3D<br>l&quot;,&=
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lang=3D3D3D"EN-CA">&nbsp;</span></p><br><=
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weberstep_--<br><br>-- __--__--<br><br>Message: 3<br>From: Rod Stright =
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</a><br>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:15:43 -0300<br>Subject: =
[frers-list]Sheets and Halyards<br>Reply-To: <a =
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Michael,<o:p></o:p></span></p><br><br><p =
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=3D<br>style=3D3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
sans-serif";<br>color:#1F497D'>That&#8217;s a great offer =
and an excellent outline for a =3D<br>Frers<br>33 racing package halyard =
plan. <o:p></o:p></span></p><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><span =
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lt;/span></p><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal><span =
=3D<br>style=3D3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
sans-serif";<br>color:#1F497D'>Do you use the topping lift as =
originally supplied with =3D<br>the<br>boat? If so, any recommendations =
for that? We have removed ours and use =3D<br>the<br>centerline halyard =
as a topping lift. It can serve as an extra halyard =3D<br>in a<br>pinch =
if need be. Also, for the headsail halyards we use Tylaska =
=3D<br>shackles which<br>can be opened and closed with one hand. The =
foredeck appreciates =
=3D<br>that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><br><br><p =
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=3D<br>style=3D3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
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=3D<br>style=3D3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","=
sans-serif";<br>color:#1F497D'>Regards,<o:p></o:p><=
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=3D<br>style=3D3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","s=
ans-serif"'>From:</span>=3D<br></b><span<br>style=3D=
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'><br><a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists=
.frers33.com</a> =3D<br>[mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists=
.frers33.com</a>] <b>On<br>Behalf Of </b>Michael =
Argyelan<br><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 19, 2013 =
9:01 AM<br><br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
</a><br><br><b>Subject:</b> [frers-list]Re: frers-list =
digest, Vol 1 #621 - 3 =
=3D<br>msgs<o:p></o:p></span></p><br><br></div=
><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>Ok folks, here is an area where I'm an =
expert. =3D<br>&nbsp;I'm new<br>to the Frers 33 but I own a =
charter/lesson company and I also run the =3D<br>Ship's<br>Store at =
Crowley's Yacht Yard in Chicago and am an expert in running =
=3D<br>rigging,<br>splicing, shackles, etc. &nbsp;I'm excited about =
this =
=3D<br>conversation!<o:p></o:p></p><br><br><div><=
br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>On =
the business end of things, any orders for =3D<br>rigging placed<br>with =
me will get free shipping and I'll price match APS, mauripro, =
West<br>M*&amp;%$&amp;, or =
otherwise.<o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div><br><br>&l=
t;div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>On =
the fun side, I have some cool recommendations =3D<br>if =
you're<br>interested in a full set of halyards. &nbsp;For the debate =
on whether to =3D<br>strip<br>or not to strip, I go with a mixed bag. My =
main hal I beef up to 3/8 as =3D<br>it<br>takes the most loads (for the =
most part) and keep completely covered. =3D<br>The jib<br>hal I keep =
covered as well but still to the 5/16 size. For spin hals, I =
=3D<br>keep<br>the cover at the shackle end (I splice everything, no =
knots) for about 2 =3D<br>feet<br>that way the cover is there for chafe =
whilst the kite is up. &nbsp;I =3D<br>then =
strip<br>&quot;x&quot; amount of cover so that the non covered =
part of the hal is =3D<br>in the<br>mast when fully hoisted. =
&nbsp;Of course, less cover =3D3D less weight and =
=3D<br>when<br>aloft, can make a big =
difference.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div>=
;<br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>I =
definitely add stopper balls to my spin hals, =3D<br>fyi. =
&nbsp;I<br>will also strip out the tail of the halyard as it takes =
no load (that's =3D<br>pretty<br>picky and me just being a big splice =
nerd). If you're worried about =3D<br>having<br>exposed core to the sun, =
wind, etc when not out racing, I sky my =3D<br>halyards and<br>use some =
Marlow Excel and use that as a messenger lined and send the =3D<br>spin =
hals<br>up to the stopper balls that way no core is exposed to direct =
sunlight =3D<br>and will<br>last =
longer.<o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div><br><br><d=
iv><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>In =
terms of what core to use, I'm a HUGE fan of =3D<br>Vectran<br>cores for =
main and jib and then switch it over to dyneema/spectra for =
=3D<br>spin<br>hals. &nbsp;The little extra stretch from spectra is =
perfect for spin =3D<br>hals. In<br>terms of what brand/style, I'm a big =
fan of Yale Cordage. &nbsp;Samson<br>Warpspeed is great but I feel =
that the covers burn off/fray to quickly =3D<br>whereas<br>Yale holds up =
longer. &nbsp;Yale Crystalyne is the Vectran core and =
=3D<br>Maxibraid<br>Plus is the Spectra core offering from them. =
&nbsp;Of course there are =3D<br>vectran<br>or spectra/dyneema cored =
offerings from just about every manufacturer =3D<br>(think<br>NER V100 - =
on tons of J105's for halyards - all =
=3D<br>vectran).&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><br><br></d=
iv><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal>Well, I think I've nerded out enough for one =
=3D<br>morning!<br>&nbsp;My rig is unstepped and I can get =
measurements, fyi if anyone =3D<br>&nbsp;has<br>questions. =
&nbsp;You can email me at <a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:mma@crowleys.com">mma@crowleys.com</a>"><a =
href=3D"mailto:mma@crowleys.com">mma@crowleys.com</a></a><br>or =
<a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael@gosailingchicago.com">michael@gosailingchicago.com=
</a>"><a =
href=3D"mailto:michael@gosailingchicago.com">michael@gosailingchicago.com=
</a>=3D<br></a>.<br>&nbsp;Here is a link to what we have =
online for cordage (we may have =3D<br>more in<br>the physical store - =
including different color offerings, =
etc)&nbsp;<a<br>href=3D3D"<a =
href=3D"http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and-Co=
=3Drdage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D3D1" =
target=3D"_blank">http://store.crowleys.com/servlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Li=
nes-and-Co=3D<br>rdage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCordage=3D3D1</a>"&=
gt;<a =
href=3D"http://store.crowleys.com/se=3Drvlet/-strse-Rigging-cln-Lines-and=
-Cordage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCord=3Dage=3D3D1" =
target=3D"_blank">http://store.crowleys.com/se=3D<br>rvlet/-strse-Rigging=
-cln-Lines-and-Cordage/Categories?RiggingLinesandCord=3D<br>age=3D3D1</a>=
</a><o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div><br><br>&l=
t;div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>Of =
course, I'm happy just to talk/write about this =3D<br>stuff<br>just to =
help out - not a sales pitch. &nbsp;I just love this =
=3D<br>stuff.<o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div><br><br=
><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><br><br>&l=
t;/div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal>Michael<o:p></o:p></p><br><br>&l=
t;/div><br><br><div><br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><i>s.v. =
Mystify</i><o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div><br=
><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>Chicago, =
IL<o:p></o:p></p><br><br></div><br><br><div>=
;<br><br><p =
class=3D3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><br><br=
></div><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal =
=3D<br>style=3D3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p&=
gt;</p><br><br><div><br><br><p class=3D3DMsoNormal>On =
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Sheets and Halyards (Rod Stright)<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp;2. =
RE: Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards (Stephen, =
Robert)<br><br>&nbsp; &nbsp;3. Sheets and Halyards (Rod =
Stright)<br><br><br><br>-- __--__-- =
<br><br><br><br>Message: 1<br><br>From: Rod Stright =
&lt;<a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:StrightR@eastlink.ca">StrightR@eastlink.ca</a>"><a=
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mp;gt;<br><br>To: <a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
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</a>=3D<br></a><br><br>Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:21:11 =
-0300<br><br>Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and =
Halyards<br><br>Reply-To: <a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com=
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coding: 7bit<br><br><br><br>Hi =
Guys,<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Planning on =
replacing some halyards (main and jib) and genoa =
sheets.<br>&nbsp;There<br><br>are a lot of products out there =
and of course I want the lowest stretch =3D<br>at<br><br>the =
lowest price. &nbsp;Anyone have any info on what they are using and =
=3D<br>why.<br>&nbsp;I<br><br>know some racers use the =
stripped down spectra or vectran core but I =
=3D<br>still<br><br>believe in the high performance core with the =
jacket (outer core) that =3D<br>you<br><br>can end for =
end.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>Regards<br=
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t;br><br>&gt;Planning on replacing some halyards (main and jib) =
and genoa =3D3D<br><br>sheets.&amp;nbsp; There are a lot of =
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=3D<br>=3D3D<br><br>core with the jacket (outer core) that you can =
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&quot;Stephen, Robert&quot; &lt;<a =
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</a>=3D<br></a>&gt;<br><br>Subject: RE: =
[frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets and Halyards<br><br>Date: Mon, 18 Mar =
2013 12:50:29 +0000<br><br>Reply-To: <a =
=3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
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</a>"><a =
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</a>=3D<br></a><br><br><br><br>--_000_1A6A3F1ED0C9554B8=
7B4531ABB26D6F01457C787M4DAG1weberstep_<br><br>Content-Type: =
text/plain; =
charset=3D3D&quot;us-ascii&quot;<br><br>Content-Transfer-En=
coding: quoted-printable<br><br><br><br>Annapolis sailing =
performance (ASP) has lots of nice options for =3D<br>halyards =
a=3D3D<br><br>nd sheets. They sometimes have deals on certain =
orders. I have a frers =3D<br>36 a=3D3D<br><br>nd have bought all =
main, jib and spinnaker halyards form them.<br><br>Nice people and =
nicer work<br><br>Bob Stephen<br><br><br><br>From: =
<a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
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e</a</a>>=3D<br>=3D3D<br><br><a href=3D3D"<a =
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target=3D3D"_blank"><a href=3D"http://rs33.com" =
target=3D"_blank">rs33.com</a></a>] On Behalf Of =
=3D<br>Rod<br>Stright<br><br>Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 =
AM<br><br>To: <a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
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</a>"><a =
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</a>=3D<br></a><br><br>Subject: [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets =
and Halyards<br><br><br><br>Hi =
Guys,<br><br><br><br>Planning on replacing some halyards =
(main and jib) and genoa =
sheets.<br>&nbsp;There=3D3D<br><br>&nbsp;are a lot of =
products out there and of course I want the lowest =
=3D<br>stretch<br>at=3D3D<br><br>&nbsp;the lowest price. =
&nbsp;Anyone have any info on what they are =3D<br>using and<br>why. =
&nbsp;I=3D3D<br><br>&nbsp;know some racers use the =
stripped down spectra or vectran core but =
=3D<br>I<br>still=3D3D<br><br>&nbsp;believe in the high =
performance core with the jacket (outer core) =
=3D<br>that<br>you=3D3D<br><br>&nbsp;can end for =
end.<br><br><br><br>Regards<br><br>Rod<br><br>Equ=
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delete this email and any attachments. Thank you. Weber-Stephen =
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perf=3D3D<br><br>ormance (ASP) has lots of nice options for =
halyards and sheets. They =3D<br>someti=3D3D<br><br>mes have deals =
on certain orders. I have a frers 36 and have bought all =
=3D<br>mai=3D3D<br><br>n, jib and spinnaker halyards form =
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t;On Behalf Of &lt;/b&gt;Rod =
Stright&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;b&gt;Sent:&lt;/b&a=
mp;gt; Monday, March 18, 2013 7:21 =
AM&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;b&gt;To:&lt;/b&gt; =
<a =3D<br>href=3D3D"mailto:<a =
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</a>=3D<br></a>&lt;br&gt;<br><br>&lt;b&gt;Sub=
ject:&lt;/b&gt; [frers-list]Frers 33 Sheets =
and<br>Halyards&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;<br><br>&=
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=3D<br>color:#0000CC&quot;&gt;Planning on<br>replacing some =
h=3D3D<br><br>alyards (main and jib) and genoa =
sheets.&amp;nbsp; There are a lot of =
=3D<br>products<br>=3D3D<br><br>out there and of course I want the =
lowest stretch at the lowest<br><br>&nbsp;price.&amp;nbsp; =
Anyone have any info on what they are using and<br>why.&amp;nbsp; I =
=3D3D<br><br>know some racers use the stripped down spectra or =
vectran core but I =3D<br>still =3D3D<br><br>believe in the high =
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