[frers-list]adjusting to a cruiser ...
Hoyt, Mike
frers-list@lists.frers33.com
Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:43:34 -0300
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Have now had Persistence for 2 months. Still feel like we have not
sailed it.
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We are coming from a series of smaller tiller driven boats with
fractional main driven rigs culminating with a J27.
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Perhaps it is that I am very distracted by the Winnebago aspects of the
boat. Loving having an interior and a separate head and especially
loving the 3GM30 diesel. However even after a 400 NM delivery and
numerous day trips I am finding we have not sailed the boat and I find
some things about the way it is rigged quite confusing and awkard.
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On the J27 and even on C&C99 and C&C 115 the traveler is at aft of
cockpit just forward of wheel (on wheel boats) and easily accessed by
driver on the tiller boats. Backstay, traveler, sheet all at this
location. On the Frers the traveler is forward of the jib trimmer
position which just seems odd. I am confused why anyone would put it
there. My best guess is that when sailing with a crew the main trimmer
is on high side and the jib trimmer sets the jib on low side and then
gets up on the rail, Is this correct?
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The jib controls are a bit different as well. On the J27 the genoa car
adjusters are forward of the primaries so that the trimmer can look at
the genoa while adjusting the cars. The controls are positioned exactly
where the pole down cam cleats are on the Frers. I am tempted to set up
using these cam cleats same as J27 as it works better and route the pole
downhaul to a cabintop clutch beside the pole uphaul.
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I am thinking the adjustments we are having are a bit awkward because we
are spending some time cruising and/or have guests aboard too frequently
to allow us to really sail the boat. On top of that I am very
infatuated with a large diesel and wheel so tempted to motor more often
than in past. Hopefully with the cooler Fall weather the tourists are
less interested and the sailors will come out and we will actually sail
and race the boat
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Sorry for the rambling email. Almost feel like I need to sit forward of
the wheel to drive so that can access the sail controls. =20
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Later
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Mike
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Persistence
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D'>Have now had Persistence for 2 months. Still feel like we have =
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D'>We are coming from a series of smaller tiller driven boats with =
fractional main driven rigs culminating with a =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Perhaps it is that I am very distracted by the Winnebago aspects of =
the boat. Loving having an interior and a separate head and =
especially loving the 3GM30 diesel. However even after a 400 NM =
delivery and numerous day trips I am finding we have not sailed the boat =
and I find some things about the way it is rigged quite confusing and =
awkard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>On the J27 and even on C&C99 and C&C 115 the traveler is at =
aft of cockpit just forward of wheel (on wheel boats) and easily =
accessed by driver on the tiller boats. Backstay, traveler, sheet =
all at this location. On the Frers the traveler is forward of the =
jib trimmer position which just seems odd. I am confused why =
anyone would put it there. My best guess is that when sailing with =
a crew the main trimmer is on high side and the jib trimmer sets the jib =
on low side and then gets up on the rail, Is this =
correct?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>The jib controls are a bit different as well. On the J27 the =
genoa car adjusters are forward of the primaries so that the trimmer can =
look at the genoa while adjusting the cars. The controls are =
positioned exactly where the pole down cam cleats are on the =
Frers. I am tempted to set up using these cam cleats same as J27 =
as it works better and route the pole downhaul to a cabintop clutch =
beside the pole uphaul.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>I am thinking the adjustments we are having are a bit awkward because =
we are spending some time cruising and/or have guests aboard too =
frequently to allow us to really sail the boat. On top of that I =
am very infatuated with a large diesel and wheel so tempted to motor =
more often than in past. Hopefully with the cooler Fall weather =
the tourists are less interested and the sailors will come out and we =
will actually sail and race the boat<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Sorry for the rambling email. Almost feel like I need to sit =
forward of the wheel to drive so that can access the sail =
controls. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Later<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Mike<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Persistence<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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