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Hi=0Adoes=20anyone=20have=20a=20source=20for=20stantions.=20=20I=20need=20one=20=
half=20of=20the=20gait=20port=20side=20foward=0A=0A=0AArnie=20Lesser=0A=0A=0A=0A=
-----Original=20Message-----=0AFrom:=20Hoyt,=20Mike=20<Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com>=0A=
To:=20frers-list=20<frers-list@lists.frers33.com>=0ASent:=20Tue,=20Aug=2026,=202=
014=209:34=20am=0ASubject:=20RE:=20[frers-list]adjusting=20to=20a=20cruiser=20..=
.=0A=0A=0A=0AThanks=20Dave=0A=20=0AInteresting=20about=20the=20car=20adjuster=20=
position.=20=20On=20Persistence=20the=20primaries=20were=20moved=20to=20cabin=20=
top=20and=20#43=20electric=20winches=20installed=20aft=20end=20of=20winch=20pad=20=
for=20single=20handing/cruising.=20=20We=20have=20since=20purchased=20Lewmar=203=
0ST=20for=20cabin=20top=20and=20are=20moving=20the=20#43=20from=20cabin=20top=20=
back=20to=20forward=20end=20of=20winch=20pad.=20=20The=20car=20adjusters=20are=20=
back=20at=20end=20of=20winch=20pad=20by=20the=20electric=20winches.=20=20Note=20=
that=20C&C99=20has=20them=20there=20as=20well=20and=20I=20find=20it=20a=20dumb=20=
place=20for=20them=20while=20racing=20=E2=80=A6=20and=20awkward=0A=20=0AMy=20nor=
mal=20position=20when=20racing=20is=20on=20main=20=E2=80=93=20mostly=20on=20a=20=
C&C=20115=20and=20also=20on=20our=20J27.=20=20When=20short=20on=20crew=20on=20J2=
7=20or=20just=20sailing=20would=20often=20do=20helm=20and=20main.=20=20Will=20se=
em=20different=20to=20move=20further=20forward=20but=20is=20a=20small=20cockpit=20=
so=20expect=20will=20not=20really=20be=20an=20issue=20=E2=80=93=20except=20when=20=
bumping=20into=20jib=20trimmers=20ocassionally.=0A=20=0AIs=20a=20very=20differen=
t=20boat=20=20than=20the=2027.=20=20Seems=20to=20be=20a=20lot=20more=20jib=20dri=
ven=20with=20much=20larger=20loads=20on=20jib=20sheets=20etc=20=E2=80=A6=20=20=20=
Looking=20fwd=20to=20actually=20racing=20it=20a=20bit.=20=20Love=20the=20fact=20=
that=20we=20can=20also=20stay=20aboard=20when=20not=20racing=0A=20=0AMike=0A=20=0A=
=0AFrom:=20frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com=20[mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.f=
rers33.com]=20On=20Behalf=20Of=20David=20Nauber=0ASent:=20Tuesday,=20August=2026=
,=202014=2010:07=20AM=0ATo:=20frers-list@lists.frers33.com=0ASubject:=20Re:=20[f=
rers-list]adjusting=20to=20a=20cruiser=20...=0A=0A=20=0A=0AOne=20more=20thing...=
=0A=0A=20=0A=0AUpwind,=20I=20always=20drive=20from=20forward=20of=20the=20wheel.=
=20If=20necessary=20when=20heeled,=20I=20put=20a=20foot=20on=20the=20pedestal=20=
to=20keep=20myself=20in=20position.=20I=20drive=20better=20downwind=20if=20I'm=20=
standing=20somewhere=20behind=20the=20wheel.=20I=20just=20see=20and=20feel=20eve=
rything=20better=20from=20there.=0A=0A=20=0A=0ADN=0A=0A=20=0A=0A=0A=0AOn=20,=20D=
avid=20Nauber=20<dnauber@yahoo.com>=20wrote:=0A=0A=20=0A=0A=0A=0AHi=20Mike,=0A=0A=
=20=0A=0AThe=20traveler=20is=20where=20it=20is=20because=20the=20boat=20was=20av=
ailable=20with=20either=20a=20tiller=20or=20a=20wheel.=20When=20fitted=20with=20=
a=20tiller,=20there=20isn't=20enough=20room=20in=20the=20cockpit=20to=20put=20th=
e=20traveler=20behind=20the=20jib=20trimmers.=20It=20is=20a=20big=20tiller,=20so=
=20it=20takes=20up=20all=20the=20room=20there=20is=20behind=20the=20jib=20trimme=
rs.=20There=20just=20isn't=20room=20for=20a=20main=20trimmer=20to=20fit=20there.=
=20I=20used=20to=20have=20a=20smaller=20boat=20(Wavelength=2024)=20with=20the=20=
traveler=20just=20forward=20of=20the=20helm=20and=20it=20was=20designed=20so=20t=
he=20helmsman=20trimmed=20main=20while=20racing,=20like=20an=20Etchells=20or=20m=
any=20other=20small=20boats.=20In=20a=20racing=20situation,=20you=20would=20not=20=
want=20to=20trim=20main=20and=20drive=20on=20the=20Frers=20anyway.=20Unless=20yo=
u're=20single-handing,=20I=20don't=20see=20a=20problem=20with=20its=20location=20=
and=20even=20then,=20you=20can=20at=20least=20rig=20the=20traveler=20to=20be=20a=
ccessible=20from=20the=20helm=20as=20Scott=20Marino=20has=20done=20on=20Risoluto=
.=20=0A=0A=20=0A=0AI'm=20not=20sure=20how=20you're=20boat=20is=20rigged=20but=20=
on=20Wolverine=20and=20all=20the=20other=20Frers=20I've=20seen=20the=20car=20adj=
uster=20is=20indeed=20forward=20of=20the=20jib=20trimmer.=20Ours=20runs=20to=20a=
=20cam=20cleat=20on=20the=20side=20of=20the=20cabin=20top=20below=20where=20the=20=
pole=20downhaul/foreguy=20is=20cleated.=20From=20there=20you=20can=20look=20at=20=
the=20sail=20while=20adjusting=20the=20car,=20just=20as=20you=20would=20expect.=0A=
=0A=20=0A=0AI=20know=20what=20you're=20saying=20about=20motoring=20a=20lot.=20Wh=
en=20on=20vacation,=20we=20usually=20leave=20early=20in=20the=20AM=20before=20th=
ere's=20enough=20breeze=20to=20justify=20hoisting=20sails,=20so=20we=20motor=20a=
lmost=20everywhere.=20=0A=0A=20=0A=0ARegards,=0A=0A=20=0A=0ADave=0A=0A=20=0A=0A=0A=
=0AOn=20Tuesday,=20August=2026,=202014=208:44=20AM,=20"Hoyt,=20Mike"=20<Mike.Hoy=
t@impgroup.com>=20wrote:=0A=0A=20=0A=0A=0A=0AHave=20now=20had=20Persistence=20fo=
r=202=20months.=20=20Still=20feel=20like=20we=20have=20not=20sailed=20it.=0A=0A=20=
=0A=0AWe=20are=20coming=20from=20a=20series=20of=20smaller=20tiller=20driven=20b=
oats=20with=20fractional=20main=20driven=20rigs=20culminating=20with=20a=20J27.=0A=
=0A=20=0A=0APerhaps=20it=20is=20that=20I=20am=20very=20distracted=20by=20the=20W=
innebago=20aspects=20of=20the=20boat.=20=20Loving=20having=20an=20interior=20and=
=20a=20separate=20head=20and=20especially=20loving=20the=203GM30=20diesel.=20=20=
However=20even=20after=20a=20400=20NM=20delivery=20and=20numerous=20day=20trips=20=
I=20am=20finding=20we=20have=20not=20sailed=20the=20boat=20and=20I=20find=20some=
=20things=20about=20the=20way=20it=20is=20rigged=20quite=20confusing=20and=20awk=
ard.=0A=0A=20=0A=0AOn=20the=20J27=20and=20even=20on=20C&C99=20and=20C&C=20115=20=
the=20traveler=20is=20at=20aft=20of=20cockpit=20just=20forward=20of=20wheel=20(o=
n=20wheel=20boats)=20and=20easily=20accessed=20by=20driver=20on=20the=20tiller=20=
boats.=20=20Backstay,=20traveler,=20sheet=20all=20at=20this=20location.=20=20On=20=
the=20Frers=20the=20traveler=20is=20forward=20of=20the=20jib=20trimmer=20positio=
n=20which=20just=20seems=20odd.=20=20I=20am=20confused=20why=20anyone=20would=20=
put=20it=20there.=20=20My=20best=20guess=20is=20that=20when=20sailing=20with=20a=
=20crew=20the=20main=20trimmer=20is=20on=20high=20side=20and=20the=20jib=20trimm=
er=20sets=20the=20jib=20on=20low=20side=20and=20then=20gets=20up=20on=20the=20ra=
il,=20=20Is=20this=20correct?=0A=0A=20=0A=0AThe=20jib=20controls=20are=20a=20bit=
=20different=20as=20well.=20=20On=20the=20J27=20the=20genoa=20car=20adjusters=20=
are=20forward=20of=20the=20primaries=20so=20that=20the=20trimmer=20can=20look=20=
at=20the=20genoa=20while=20adjusting=20the=20cars.=20=20The=20controls=20are=20p=
ositioned=20exactly=20where=20the=20pole=20down=20cam=20cleats=20are=20on=20the=20=
Frers.=20=20I=20am=20tempted=20to=20set=20up=20using=20these=20cam=20cleats=20sa=
me=20as=20J27=20as=20it=20works=20better=20and=20route=20the=20pole=20downhaul=20=
to=20a=20cabintop=20clutch=20beside=20the=20pole=20uphaul.=0A=0A=20=0A=0AI=20am=20=
thinking=20the=20adjustments=20we=20are=20having=20are=20a=20bit=20awkward=20bec=
ause=20we=20are=20spending=20some=20time=20cruising=20and/or=20have=20guests=20a=
board=20too=20frequently=20to=20allow=20us=20to=20really=20sail=20the=20boat.=20=
=20On=20top=20of=20that=20I=20am=20very=20infatuated=20with=20a=20large=20diesel=
=20and=20wheel=20so=20tempted=20to=20motor=20more=20often=20than=20in=20past.=20=
=20Hopefully=20with=20the=20cooler=20Fall=20weather=20the=20tourists=20are=20les=
s=20interested=20and=20the=20sailors=20will=20come=20out=20and=20we=20will=20act=
ually=20sail=20and=20race=20the=20boat=0A=0A=20=0A=0ASorry=20for=20the=20ramblin=
g=20email.=20=20Almost=20feel=20like=20I=20need=20to=20sit=20forward=20of=20the=20=
wheel=20to=20drive=20so=20that=20can=20access=20the=20sail=20controls.=20=20=0A=0A=
=20=0A=0ALater=0A=0A=20=0A=0AMike=0A=0A=20=0A=0APersistence=0A=0A=0A=20=0A=0A=0A=
=0A=0A=20=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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<font=20color=3D'black'=20size=3D'2'=20face=3D'arial'><font=20class=3D"Apple-sty=
le-span"=20size=3D"2">Hi</font>=0A<div><font=20class=3D"Apple-style-span"=20size=
=3D"2">does=20anyone=20have=20a=20source=20for=20stantions.=20&nbsp;I=20need=20o=
ne=20half=20of=20the=20gait=20port=20side=20foward</font></div>=0A=0A<div><font=20=
class=3D"Apple-style-span"=20size=3D"2"><br>=0A</font></div>=0A=0A<div><font=20c=
lass=3D"Apple-style-span"=20size=3D"2">Arnie=20Lesser<br>=0A</font><br>=0A<br>=0A=
=0A<div=20style=3D"font-family:=20helvetica,=20arial;=20font-size:=2010pt;=20col=
or:=20black;=20">-----Original=20Message-----<br>=0AFrom:=20Hoyt,=20Mike=20&lt;M=
ike.Hoyt@impgroup.com&gt;<br>=0ATo:=20frers-list=20&lt;frers-list@lists.frers33.=
com&gt;<br>=0ASent:=20Tue,=20Aug=2026,=202014=209:34=20am<br>=0ASubject:=20RE:=20=
[frers-list]adjusting=20to=20a=20cruiser=20...<br>=0A<br>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A<div=20i=
d=3D"AOLMsgPart_1_9efa763a-5c65-4836-9583-940fdfbb660a">=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"ao=
lReplacedBody"=20lang=3D"EN-US"=20link=3D"blue"=20vlink=3D"purple">=0A<div=20cla=
ss=3D"WordSection1">=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:">Thanks=20Dave</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Interesting=20a=
bout=20the=20car=20adjuster=20position.&nbsp;=20On=20Persistence=20the=20primari=
es=20were=20moved=20to=20cabin=20top=20and=20#43=20electric=20winches=20installe=
d=20aft=20end=20of=20winch=20pad=20for=20single=20handing/cruising.&nbsp;=20We=20=
have=20since=20purchased=20Lewmar=2030ST=20for=20cabin=20top=20and=20are=20movin=
g=20the=20#43=20from=20cabin=20top=20back=20to=20forward=20end=20of=20winch=20pa=
d.&nbsp;=20The=20car=20adjusters=20are=20back=20at=20end=20of=20winch=20pad=20by=
=20the=20electric=20winches.&nbsp;=20Note=20that=20C&amp;C99=20has=20them=20ther=
e=20as=20well=20and=20I=20find=20it=20a=20dumb=20place=20for=20them=20while=20ra=
cing=20=E2=80=A6=20and=20awkward</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><s=
pan=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">My=20normal=20=
position=20when=20racing=20is=20on=20main=20=E2=80=93=20mostly=20on=20a=20C&amp;=
C=20115=20and=20also=20on=20our=20J27.&nbsp;=20When=20short=20on=20crew=20on=20J=
27=20or=20just=20sailing=20would=20often=20do=20helm=20and=20main.&nbsp;=20Will=20=
seem=20different=20to=20move=20further=20forward=20but=20is=20a=20small=20cockpi=
t=20so=20expect=20will=20not=20really=20be=20an=20issue=20=E2=80=93=20except=20w=
hen=20bumping=20into=20jib=20trimmers=20ocassionally.</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span>=
</div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:">Is=20a=20very=20different=20boat&nbsp;=20than=20the=2027.&nbsp;=20Seems=20=
to=20be=20a=20lot=20more=20jib=20driven=20with=20much=20larger=20loads=20on=20ji=
b=20sheets=20etc=20=E2=80=A6=20&nbsp;&nbsp;Looking=20fwd=20to=20actually=20racin=
g=20it=20a=20bit.&nbsp;=20Love=20the=20fact=20that=20we=20can=20also=20stay=20ab=
oard=20when=20not=20racing</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Mike</span></div>=0A=
=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&n=
bsp;</span></div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid=20#B=
5C4DF=201.0pt;padding:3.0pt=200in=200in=200in">=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>=
<span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">From:</span></b><span=20style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">=20<a=20href=3D"mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.fr=
ers33.com">frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>=20[<a=20href=3D"mailto:frers-l=
ist-admin@lists.frers33.com?">mailto:frers-list-admin@lists.frers33.com</a>]=20<=
b>On=20Behalf=20Of=20</b>David=20Nauber<br>=0A<b>Sent:</b>=20Tuesday,=20August=20=
26,=202014=2010:07=20AM<br>=0A<b>To:</b>=20<a=20href=3D"mailto:frers-list@lists.=
frers33.com">frers-list@lists.frers33.com</a><br>=0A<b>Subject:</b>=20Re:=20[fre=
rs-list]adjusting=20to=20a=20cruiser=20...</span></div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<=
div=20class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:">One=20more=20thing...</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</=
div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:">Upwind,=20I=20always=20drive=20from=20forward=20of=20the=20wheel.=20=
If=20necessary=20when=20heeled,=20I=20put=20a=20foot=20on=20the=20pedestal=20to=20=
keep=20myself=20in=20position.=20I=20drive=20better=20downwind=20if=20I'm=20stan=
ding=20somewhere=20behind=20the=20wheel.=20I=20just=20see=20and=20feel=20everyth=
ing=20better=20from=20there.</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A=
</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:">DN</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20=
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0p=
t;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A=
<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.0pt;font-family:">On=20,=20David=20Nauber=20&lt;<a=20href=3D"mailto:dnaube=
r@yahoo.com">dnauber@yahoo.com</a>&gt;=20wrote:</span><span=20style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"margin-bo=
ttom:12.0pt;background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=
=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20id=3D"yiv2843767694">=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div=20clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:">Hi=20Mike,</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</di=
v>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:">The=20traveler=20is=20where=20it=20is=20because=20the=20boat=20was=20=
available=20with=20either=20a=20tiller=20or=20a=20wheel.=20When=20fitted=20with=20=
a=20tiller,=20there=20isn't=20enough=20room=20in=20the=20cockpit=20to=20put=20th=
e=20traveler=20behind=20the=20jib=20trimmers.=20It=20is=20a=20big=20tiller,=20so=
=20it=20takes=20up=20all=20the=20room=20there=20is=20behind=20the=20jib=20trimme=
rs.=20There=20just=20isn't=20room=20for=20a=20main=20trimmer=20to=20fit=20there.=
=20I=20used=20to=20have=20a=20smaller=20boat=20(Wavelength=2024)=20with=20the=20=
traveler=20just=20forward=20of=20the=20helm=20and=20it=20was=20designed=20so=20t=
he=20helmsman=20trimmed=20main=20while=20racing,=20like=20an=20Etchells=20or=20m=
any=20other=20small=20boats.=20In=20a=20racing=20situation,=20you=20would=20not=20=
want=20to=20trim=20main=20and=20drive=20on=20the=20Frers=20anyway.=20Unless=20yo=
u're=20single-handing,=20I=20don't=20see=20a=20problem=20with=20its=20location=20=
and=20even=20then,=20you=20can=20at=20least=20rig=20the=20traveler=20to=20be=20a=
ccessible=20from=20the=20helm=20as=20Scott=20Marino=20has=20done=20on=20Risoluto=
.&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A=
<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">I'm=20=
not=20sure=20how=20you're=20boat=20is=20rigged=20but=20on=20Wolverine=20and=20al=
l=20the=20other=20Frers=20I've=20seen=20the=20car=20adjuster=20is=20indeed=20for=
ward=20of=20the=20jib=20trimmer.=20Ours=20runs=20to=20a=20cam=20cleat=20on=20the=
=20side=20of=20the=20cabin=20top=20below=20where=20the=20pole=20downhaul/foreguy=
=20is=20cleated.=20From=20there=20you=20can=20look=20at=20the=20sail=20while=20a=
djusting=20the=20car,=20just=20as=20you=20would=20expect.</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=
=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">I=20know=20what=20you're=20saying=20a=
bout=20motoring=20a=20lot.=20When=20on=20vacation,=20we=20usually=20leave=20earl=
y=20in=20the=20AM=20before=20there's=20enough=20breeze=20to=20justify=20hoisting=
=20sails,=20so=20we=20motor=20almost=20everywhere.&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=
=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Regards,</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<=
div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=20s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">Dave</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<=
div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><spa=
n=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<d=
iv=20id=3D"yiv2843767694yqt45925">=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div=20clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:">On=20Tuesday,=20August=2026,=202014=208:44=20AM,=20"Hoyt,=20Mike"=20=
&lt;<a=20href=3D"mailto:Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com">Mike.Hoyt@impgroup.com</a>&gt;=20=
wrote:</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div=20c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span=20sty=
le=3D"font-family:">&nbsp;</span></div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20id=3D"yiv2843767694"=
>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:whi=
te"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Have=20now=20had=20Persisten=
ce=20for=202=20months.&nbsp;=20Still=20feel=20like=20we=20have=20not=20sailed=20=
it.</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<di=
v=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:=
11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A=
</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><spa=
n=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">We=20are=20coming=20from=20a=20serie=
s=20of=20smaller=20tiller=20driven=20boats=20with=20fractional=20main=20driven=20=
rigs=20culminating=20with=20a=20J27.</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span=
></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:w=
hite"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span><span=20style=
=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=
=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Pe=
rhaps=20it=20is=20that=20I=20am=20very=20distracted=20by=20the=20Winnebago=20asp=
ects=20of=20the=20boat.&nbsp;=20Loving=20having=20an=20interior=20and=20a=20sepa=
rate=20head=20and=20especially=20loving=20the=203GM30=20diesel.&nbsp;=20However=20=
even=20after=20a=20400=20NM=20delivery=20and=20numerous=20day=20trips=20I=20am=20=
finding=20we=20have=20not=20sailed=20the=20boat=20and=20I=20find=20some=20things=
=20about=20the=20way=20it=20is=20rigged=20quite=20confusing=20and=20awkard.</spa=
n><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:">&nbsp;</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=
=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=
=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">On=20the=20J27=20and=20even=20on=20C&amp;C99=20=
and=20C&amp;C=20115=20the=20traveler=20is=20at=20aft=20of=20cockpit=20just=20for=
ward=20of=20wheel=20(on=20wheel=20boats)=20and=20easily=20accessed=20by=20driver=
=20on=20the=20tiller=20boats.&nbsp;=20Backstay,=20traveler,=20sheet=20all=20at=20=
this=20location.&nbsp;=20On=20the=20Frers=20the=20traveler=20is=20forward=20of=20=
the=20jib=20trimmer=20position=20which=20just=20seems=20odd.&nbsp;=20I=20am=20co=
nfused=20why=20anyone=20would=20put=20it=20there.&nbsp;=20My=20best=20guess=20is=
=20that=20when=20sailing=20with=20a=20crew=20the=20main=20trimmer=20is=20on=20hi=
gh=20side=20and=20the=20jib=20trimmer=20sets=20the=20jib=20on=20low=20side=20and=
=20then=20gets=20up=20on=20the=20rail,&nbsp;=20Is=20this=20correct?</span><span=20=
style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family=
:">&nbsp;</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=
=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font=
-size:11.0pt;font-family:">The=20jib=20controls=20are=20a=20bit=20different=20as=
=20well.&nbsp;=20On=20the=20J27=20the=20genoa=20car=20adjusters=20are=20forward=20=
of=20the=20primaries=20so=20that=20the=20trimmer=20can=20look=20at=20the=20genoa=
=20while=20adjusting=20the=20cars.&nbsp;=20The=20controls=20are=20positioned=20e=
xactly=20where=20the=20pole=20down=20cam=20cleats=20are=20on=20the=20Frers.&nbsp=
;=20I=20am=20tempted=20to=20set=20up=20using=20these=20cam=20cleats=20same=20as=20=
J27=20as=20it=20works=20better=20and=20route=20the=20pole=20downhaul=20to=20a=20=
cabintop=20clutch=20beside=20the=20pole=20uphaul.</span><span=20style=3D"font-fa=
mily:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D=
"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span>=
<span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D=
"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-=
family:">I=20am=20thinking=20the=20adjustments=20we=20are=20having=20are=20a=20b=
it=20awkward=20because=20we=20are=20spending=20some=20time=20cruising=20and/or=20=
have=20guests=20aboard=20too=20frequently=20to=20allow=20us=20to=20really=20sail=
=20the=20boat.&nbsp;=20On=20top=20of=20that=20I=20am=20very=20infatuated=20with=20=
a=20large=20diesel=20and=20wheel=20so=20tempted=20to=20motor=20more=20often=20th=
an=20in=20past.&nbsp;=20Hopefully=20with=20the=20cooler=20Fall=20weather=20the=20=
tourists=20are=20less=20interested=20and=20the=20sailors=20will=20come=20out=20a=
nd=20we=20will=20actually=20sail=20and=20race=20the=20boat</span><span=20style=3D=
"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20=
style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp=
;</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20=
class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:">Sorry=20for=20the=20rambling=20email.&nbsp;=20Almost=20feel=20l=
ike=20I=20need=20to=20sit=20forward=20of=20the=20wheel=20to=20drive=20so=20that=20=
can=20access=20the=20sail=20controls.&nbsp;=20</span><span=20style=3D"font-famil=
y:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"ba=
ckground:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span><sp=
an=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"=
MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
amily:">Later</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<=
div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp;</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></spa=
n></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:=
white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">Mike</span><span=20style=3D=
"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20=
style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:">&nbsp=
;</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div>=0A<div=20=
class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:">Persistence</span><span=20style=3D"font-family:"></span></div>=0A=
</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><span=20style=3D"font-family:">&nbsp;</span>=
</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A</div>=0A=
=0A<div=20class=3D"MsoNormal"=20style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white">=
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